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00:06:45 <emperorjake> Yeah, the green company colour is lighter and uses some of the "signal green" shades
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03:23:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] CI - Nightly workflow was not successful https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/actions/runs/41267939730
03:46:12 <_glx_> oh of course D3D11 with mingw
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05:21:32 <mnhebi> this is why I always build my apps with MinGW first
05:37:26 <peter1138[d]> We moved it to the nightly task because it took so long.
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07:59:15 <peter1138> > Info: Keep in mind, server admins have the ability to choose which announcement posts will be published and sent to your server through Channel Following. If you're missing an announcement post, it's likely the admins have chosen to not publish that post.
07:59:37 <peter1138> Hmm, I guess all our announcements as missing that.
07:59:46 <peter1138> -as+are
08:00:56 <peter1138> (I don't know if "server admin" means "person who can post announcements")
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08:53:23 <michi_cc> Side effect of the new Discord channel for release announcements maybe?
08:55:36 <peter1138> The last notice I see is for 15.2, so the broadcasts were already missing.
08:55:55 <peter1138> Basically, the last one that was sent is yours, none of talltyler's have been broadcast.
08:56:26 <michi_cc> I always hit the announce button, so I guess Tyler doesn't π€·ββοΈ
08:56:50 <michi_cc> Or publish or however that thing is titled.
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09:42:51 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #16115: Codechange: Remove C-style casts from NewGRF parsing. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16115
09:43:11 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #16104: Codechange: Unify and make station/roadstop TriggerArea a scoped enum https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16104
09:45:34 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #16084: Add: [NewGRF] Generic tile-based sprite variations. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16084
09:46:02 <andythenorth_> COFFEE
09:46:05 <andythenorth_> oof
09:46:48 <peter1138> coffee + malted milk
09:49:24 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #16129: Codechange: Make HandleKeyPressResult a scoped enum https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16129
09:57:49 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN approved pull request #16128: Change: Heading for 17 now https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16128#pullrequestreview-5727512098
10:16:48 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #16129: Codechange: Make HandleKeyPressResult a scoped enum https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16129#pullrequestreview-5727565976
10:17:26 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #16127: Doc: Add missing PR number to changelog https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16127#pullrequestreview-5727567871
10:23:46 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #16109: Codechange: Converting RailTrackOffset, RailTrackBridgeOffset and RailFenceOffset to scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16109#pullrequestreview-5727585519
10:26:33 <peter1138> Yeah, dunno what happened to that PR number, it's missing from the output of the changelog script which I still have open.
10:45:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #16129: Codechange: Make HandleKeyPressResult a scoped enum https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16129
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11:48:35 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] tylla commented on discussion #12888: Mouse wheel click to close windows https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/12888
12:01:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on discussion #12888: Mouse wheel click to close windows https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/12888
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12:58:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler merged pull request #16127: Doc: Add missing PR number to changelog https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16127
12:58:51 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler merged pull request #16128: Change: Heading for 17 now https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16128
12:59:49 <talltyler> Any appetite to fix the missing PR number in the master branch?
13:18:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN approved pull request #16126: Doc: Add missing PR number to changelog https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16126#pullrequestreview-5728246051
13:19:24 <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1566441530158354483/image.png?ex=6ae88ddb&is=6ae73c5b&hm=2aa99a8a9205a1fb1c3b4b36a95c6e2954cb8d340c9dd36ce590bfc150b3e020&
13:19:24 <peter1138[d]> :/
13:21:06 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler merged pull request #16126: Doc: Add missing PR number to changelog https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16126
14:04:35 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #16125: Add: [Android] Delete, Control and Shift buttons to main toolbar https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16125#issuecomment-6559004181
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14:11:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #16130: Add: Support for mouse backwards/forwards buttons for page navigation https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16130
14:13:20 <talltyler> Ooh
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14:37:25 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 commented on pull request #16125: Add: [Android] Delete, Control and Shift buttons to main toolbar https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16125#issuecomment-6559392189
14:46:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] zephyris commented on pull request #16125: Add: [Android] Delete, Control and Shift buttons to main toolbar https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16125#issuecomment-6559486867
14:59:36 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #16130: Add: Support for mouse backwards/forwards buttons for page navigation https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16130#issuecomment-6559639416
15:05:34 <_glx_> hmm I was actually reading from the wrong source (MS site and .net)
15:11:20 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #16130: Add: Support for mouse backwards/forwards buttons for page navigation https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16130
15:12:12 <peter1138> Of course, no Mac OS use will have more than one mouse button anyway :)
15:24:38 <peter1138> Well it built.
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15:26:23 <andythenorth_> I have zero mouse buttons
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15:26:35 <andythenorth_> but I have primary and secondary click, and swipes
15:26:54 <andythenorth_> π
15:27:56 <will_marshall_> Hmmm, horizontal scroll wheel support for the depot window.
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15:52:04 <audigex> peter1138: I feel like thatβs a little outdated, double-tap to right click has pretty common in MacOS for ~20 years, the old single mouse button Macs are quite a long time ago now
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16:09:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] verbosecodes updated pull request #16109: Codechange: Converting RailTrackOffset, RailTrackBridgeOffset and RailFenceOffset to scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16109
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16:14:50 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #16131: Change: Make scroll wheel work on horizontal scrollbars https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16131
16:20:41 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] verbosecodes updated pull request #16109: Codechange: Converting RailTrackOffset, RailTrackBridgeOffset and RailFenceOffset to scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16109
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16:28:37 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] verbosecodes updated pull request #16109: Codechange: Converting RailTrackOffset, RailTrackBridgeOffset and RailFenceOffset to scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16109
16:31:54 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] verbosecodes updated pull request #16109: Codechange: Converting RailTrackOffset, RailTrackBridgeOffset and RailFenceOffset to scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16109
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16:44:36 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] WolfieFox commented on pull request #16131: Change: Make scroll wheel work on horizontal scrollbars https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16131#issuecomment-6560861048
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17:04:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #16131: Change: Make scroll wheel work on horizontal scrollbars https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16131#issuecomment-6561088013
17:06:08 <peter1138> > Anthropic restricts Claude Code from recreating existing games, developers report blocked projects
17:06:11 <peter1138> lol
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17:28:06 <audigex> I love that anyone thought these corporations wouldn't all just look out for each other
17:29:44 <audigex> But also I don't think the OpenTTD community should be opposing decompiled work... even if you don't like the AI doing it, that feels like shaky ground morally π
17:31:57 <peter1138> I oppose the use of AI regardless.
17:46:05 <mnhebi> so far that Claude rule has not affected me one bit.
17:48:01 <peter1138> Me neither.
17:49:29 <mnhebi> some of these posts complaining about AI refusing to do decomps seem to be bot posts anyways
17:50:02 <mnhebi> cause someone was saying Deepseek refuses, yet I haven't encountered it refuse once. Don't see if talking my ear off about copyright either..
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18:20:21 <andythenorth_> unrelated, but GPT willingly cloned OpenTTD for me a few hours ago
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18:21:19 <andythenorth_> including renaming it and then infringing what is probably a copyrighted title eh https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/zudZWtKw/image.png
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18:56:46 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #16075: Add: Support for 4cc vehicles via sprite stack layers. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16075
18:59:18 <peter1138> Hmm, can probably split those commits up a bit more.
18:59:32 <andythenorth_> I forget (more so as I get older) - vars for CC 3 and 4 are not possible? Or just not provided? π
20:05:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] verbosecodes commented on pull request #16109: Codechange: Converting RailTrackOffset, RailTrackBridgeOffset and RailFenceOffset to scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16109#pullrequestreview-5729975638
20:10:37 <_zephyris> NewGRF vars? Not provided, and not trivially possible to add (I think).
20:11:43 <peter1138> Hmm?
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20:52:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #16131: Change: Make scroll wheel work on horizontal scrollbars https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16131#pullrequestreview-5730217596
21:04:17 <peter1138> will_marshall_, thanks for reviewing btw, I was a bit terse :)
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21:06:08 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #16131: Change: Make scroll wheel work on horizontal scrollbars https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16131
21:13:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #16109: Codechange: Converting RailTrackOffset, RailTrackBridgeOffset and RailFenceOffset to scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16109#pullrequestreview-5730285230
21:16:55 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #16109: Codechange: Converting RailTrackOffset, RailTrackBridgeOffset and RailFenceOffset to scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16109#pullrequestreview-5730313540
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21:16:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #16102: Codefix: clang scan-build related fixes https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16102#pullrequestreview-5730313470
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21:22:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #16102: Codefix: clang scan-build related fixes https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16102#pullrequestreview-5730334196
21:24:25 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #16102: Codefix: clang scan-build related fixes https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16102#pullrequestreview-5730339399
21:30:43 <andythenorth_> naptime?
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21:36:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #16102: Codefix: clang scan-build related fixes https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16102
22:01:44 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN approved pull request #16102: Codefix: clang scan-build related fixes https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16102#pullrequestreview-5730477384
22:07:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] dependabot[bot] opened pull request #16132: Upgrade: Bump github/codeql-action from 4.38.2 to 4.39.1 in the actions group https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16132
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22:13:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #16133: Codechange: Prefer T{} initialisation instead of casting (T)0 https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16133
22:25:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #16102: Codefix: clang scan-build related fixes https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16102
22:25:22 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #16134: Cleanup: Remove duplicate settings variable in GameOptions window https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16134
22:27:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #16133: Codechange: Prefer T{} initialisation instead of casting (T)0 https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16133#pullrequestreview-5730565604
22:29:11 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #16134: Cleanup: Remove duplicate settings variable in GameOptions window https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16134#pullrequestreview-5730571351
22:35:35 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #16133: Codechange: Prefer T{} initialisation instead of casting (T)0 https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16133#pullrequestreview-5730591618
22:49:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] tylla commented on discussion #12888: Mouse wheel click to close windows https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/12888
22:51:06 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] verbosecodes updated pull request #16109: Codechange: Converting RailTrackOffset, RailTrackBridgeOffset and RailFenceOffset to scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16109
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23:25:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #16133: Codechange: Prefer T{} initialisation instead of casting (T)0 https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16133#pullrequestreview-5730771309
23:25:49 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #16133: Codechange: Prefer T{} initialisation instead of casting (T)0 https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16133
23:43:07 <will_marshall_> peter1138: It's fine, no different to how I'd respond if I was at work!
23:45:36 <will_marshall_> I appreciate it's not possible to make every omission explicit, I should have just said "this looks great, I'm curious about..." rather than just framing them as open Qs.
23:49:38 <will_marshall_> Also thinking about UI rescaling without tearing down every widget and recreating them sent me on a journey of exploration.
23:58:11 <peter1138> Yeah, we don't want to through away dynamic state.
23:58:43 <peter1138> Hmm, should Train::Get() verify that the vehicle is actually a train? Train::From(v) does, but Train::Get(index) doesn't..
23:58:53 <will_marshall_> In debug mode perhaps
23:59:38 <peter1138> Well, the existing verify is an assert, so not dependent on debug mode as such.
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