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00:44:49  <audigex> _zephyris: keming*



00:45:35  <reldred> _zephyris: Surely you don’t need all that dram, give it to Sammy he can keep it warm and safe.



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05:59:49  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PikkaBird commented on issue #11034: [Bug]: Refit in stations can fail if leading articulated part has 0 capacity https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/11034



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06:12:02  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PikkaBird commented on issue #11034: [Bug]: Refit in stations can fail if leading articulated part has 0 capacity https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/11034



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07:05:36  <oceanicwavs> reldred: aren't we so selfish



07:08:43  <emperorjake> peter1138: I have an idea, why not add a lightness slider that applies to any colour? It would cut down on the selection of colours that are just different shades of the same colour, at the cost of losing detail the further you move it. One could use it to easily make the light cream/dark red NewCC colours for instance. Or recreate the NewCC two-tone mode.



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07:09:58  <emperorjake> I think a lot of limitations with the colour selection is down to not being able to choose brightness. Certain colours just look muddy and undetailed on certain vehicles so it would be nice to be able to adjust that, without needing new palette colours.



07:17:37  <emperorjake> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1565988097156710450/image.png?ex=6ae6e791&is=6ae59611&hm=ae0182a259c6cc71361604afc02911e366feac5a5e175937bb0e55bfeb906a8c&



07:17:37  <emperorjake> Something like this for red for example



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07:51:33  <reldred> may as well add hue and saturation sliders if you're gonna do a luminocity slider.



07:52:15  <reldred> I think the main thing about peters approach is that it still sticks to 8bpp



07:52:47  <reldred> hslcc or even use adding L to the existing CC goes back to 32bpp again



08:00:52  <peter1138> $ git rebase master custom-company-colours



08:03:26  <emperorjake> I'm not proposing to add 32bpp, I'm proposing to adjust lightness within the 8bpp palette



08:04:32  <emperorjake> I thought that was clear from the example



08:05:18  <_zephyris> I kinda like it... But i think I'd prefer artistic control, eg. manually making the pink by adding white as the brightest, tweaking the shadow colours, etc..



08:05:28  <_zephyris> How does that look on real sprites? Might be a bit flat.



08:06:06  <peter1138> It vastly complicates how Colour is stored, used and applied.



08:06:18  <peter1138> And I already have a branch that does that.



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08:08:49  <tateisukannanirase> Bit of a weird question perhaps but is there any way to jank openttd to stop it from opening the audio device? Even if I configure the base sounds/music to No and volume to 0, it still opens the device. Every time I open/close my debug build it competes with other devices for my bluetooth headphones.



08:12:29  <dwfreed> mute it in the OS?



08:13:19  <peter1138> Start with `-s null` or in openttd.cfg set `soundriver = null`



08:18:49  <tateisukannanirase> peter1138[d]: that worked perfectly, thanks! (thanks also dwfreed that works too but less flexible).



08:22:11  <dwfreed> muting it in the OS is probably more flexible? (but could be a bit annoying if you play fullscreen) Because you can change the mute state just by going to the OS's volume mixer, vs having to restart OpenTTD



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08:27:28  <tateisukannanirase> Actually I retract my previous statement, I am using linux mint and even if I mute openttd it still holds the audio device open and the bluetooth connection open. But with the command line I can setup my IDE to launch with `-s` and regular gameplay config with sound so I can have the best of both worlds.



08:27:50  <dwfreed> Odd



08:46:37  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] kt2746 opened issue #729: [ja_JP] Translator access request https://github.com/OpenTTD/team/issues/729



09:49:54  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] Rito13 opened pull request #730: Fix 90215fd: yaml syntax error on line 12 https://github.com/OpenTTD/team/pull/730



09:55:51  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] verbosecodes commented on pull request #16109: Codechange: Converting RailTrackOffset, RailTrackBridgeOffset and RailFenceOffset to scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16109#pullrequestreview-5722255888



09:56:27  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] verbosecodes commented on pull request #16109: Codechange: Converting RailTrackOffset, RailTrackBridgeOffset and RailFenceOffset to scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16109#pullrequestreview-5722257216



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10:10:04  <andythenorth_> moin



10:28:37  <kaibaneddy> zoin



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11:01:02  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 updated pull request #16122: Add: Allow user to select a vertical placement of main toolbar https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16122



11:05:40  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 commented on pull request #16122: Add: Allow user to select a vertical placement of main toolbar https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16122#issuecomment-6542575965



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11:21:24  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 updated pull request #16122: Add: Allow user to select a vertical placement of main toolbar https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16122



11:29:37  <andythenorth_> writes code by hand



11:33:07  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] orudge commented on pull request #16007: Feature: D3D11 video driver https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16007#issuecomment-6542825943



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11:42:03  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #16007: Feature: D3D11 video driver https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16007#issuecomment-6542906017



12:30:47  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] orudge commented on pull request #16007: Feature: D3D11 video driver https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16007#issuecomment-6543383061



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12:53:54  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] zephyris commented on pull request #16122: Add: Allow user to select a vertical placement of main toolbar https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16122#issuecomment-6543616584



13:05:25  <andythenorth_> 3cc Horse? 👀



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13:18:41  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 commented on pull request #16122: Add: Allow user to select a vertical placement of main toolbar https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16122#issuecomment-6543874555



13:20:58  <reldred> tri-horse



13:25:24  <andythenorth_> could cut a lot of vehicles out https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/3hBdEmtl/image.png



13:25:58  <andythenorth_> shorter https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/dKNfr8Q8/image.png



13:26:00  <peter1138> Urgh, itchy.



13:27:22  <peter1138> Hmm, how did I hit 192 bpm heart rate :o



13:27:52  <andythenorth_> :o



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13:29:18  <andythenorth_> deleting some liveries would reduce 11k vehicles to 8k



13:31:33  <LordAro> peter1138: :o



13:31:42  <peter1138> You could give the RAM you saved to Sam Altman.



13:32:09  <andythenorth_> good point



13:32:31  <andythenorth_> I have too much anyway, I should please think of the children? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/OwS3pjSA/image.png



13:34:42  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] LordAro approved pull request #730: Fix 90215fd: yaml syntax error on line 12 https://github.com/OpenTTD/team/pull/730#pullrequestreview-5722923153



13:34:57  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] LordAro merged pull request #730: Fix 90215fd: yaml syntax error on line 12 https://github.com/OpenTTD/team/pull/730



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13:56:08  <_glx_> oh actually the previous syntax was fine, just missing the `${{..}}` enclosing



13:57:25  <_glx_> `You must always use the ${{ }} expression syntax or escape with '', "", or () when the expression starts with !, since ! is reserved notation in YAML format.` from <https://docs.github.com/en/actions/reference/workflows-and-actions/workflow-syntax#jobsjob_idif>



13:59:20  <peter1138> Probably "== false" is nicer :)



14:02:27  <_glx_> not sure, `github.event.issue.pull_request` is not a bool



14:04:01  <peter1138> Oh, I see.



14:05:56  <peter1138> == null?



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14:09:16  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on pull request #730: Fix 90215fd: yaml syntax error on line 12 https://github.com/OpenTTD/team/pull/730#issuecomment-6544463661



14:09:50  <_glx_> well, it works 😉



14:22:08  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on issue #729: [ja_JP] Translator access request https://github.com/OpenTTD/team/issues/729



14:23:12  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on issue #728: [ar_EG] Translator access request https://github.com/OpenTTD/team/issues/728



14:24:37  <_glx_> at least it works even if script failed for `new_issue`



14:48:58  <andythenorth_> hmms



14:52:02  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened pull request #16123: Add: Setting to only spawn primary industries https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16123



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15:01:08  <andythenorth_> should wagons even have colours? :eyes: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/tv2GcrKJ/image.png



15:01:17  <andythenorth_> why not just company colour?



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15:19:12  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #16122: Add: Allow user to select a vertical placement of main toolbar https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16122#issuecomment-6545296170



15:50:53  <peter1138> Okay, any blockers for #16121?



15:52:10  <rito12_13> #16007?



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15:52:45  <rito12_13> not exactly a blocker but rather the other way around



15:55:09  <mnhebi> peter1138: just wait till you start hitting over 200..sleeping



15:55:52  <peter1138> Yeah, that's when I'm going to A&E at the hospital.



15:56:23  <peter1138> A new video driver warrants at least a beta6 IMHO.



16:19:05  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] muppet9010 opened issue #16124: [Crash]: Crash on resetting AI configuration options https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/16124



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16:48:42  <rito12_13> > If the dropdown doesn't fully fit, we a need a dropdown.



16:48:42  <rito12_13> sure



16:52:24  <peter1138> That might've been mangled.



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17:03:16  <peter1138> Hm



17:08:31  <peter1138> pom-te-pom



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17:27:52  * peter1138 meeps



17:30:31  <peter1138> And then, any objections to branching for 16.0 this evening?



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17:39:09  <_glx_> oh of course VS failed to load symbols, they are on the "raw" drive (data is there but windows can't access it because a bad block in an unfortunate place)



17:39:20  <peter1138> Oops.



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17:46:15  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #16121: Doc: Update changelog for 16.0-RC1 https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16121



17:46:55  * peter1138 hovers over the Create new branch button



17:48:36  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #16124: [Crash]: Crash on resetting AI configuration options https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/16124



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17:51:10  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on issue #16124: [Crash]: Crash on resetting AI configuration options https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/16124



18:12:53  <peter1138> Meep Meep



18:13:44  <LordAro> definitely looked at the line in 15.3?



18:14:02  <peter1138> Yup.



18:14:43  <peter1138> 896 files to compile now I've switched back to master.



18:18:42  <LordAro> rip



18:18:57  <LordAro> get you a worktree



18:23:35  <peter1138> GitHub crashing my browser tab :o



18:25:23  <peter1138> Hmm, I can't retarget #16116



18:25:37  <peter1138> talltyler, can you retarget it? :)



18:26:28  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #16116: Change: Use new title game for 16.x release https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16116#issuecomment-6547418897



18:28:30  <peter1138> Or... have they removed that facility?



18:28:44  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 updated pull request #16122: Add: Allow user to select a vertical placement of main toolbar https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16122



18:29:12  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #16124: [Crash]: Crash on resetting AI configuration options https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/16124



18:30:40  <peter1138> Ah, figured it



18:31:03  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN approved pull request #16116: Change: Use new title game for 16.x release https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16116#pullrequestreview-5724309834



18:31:20  <_glx_> hehe was doing it at the same time 🙂



18:31:54  <peter1138> I ought to test it ;)



18:32:11  <peter1138> Yup, it loads.



18:34:02  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #16116: Change: Use new title game for 16.x release https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16116



18:34:23  <peter1138> Okay.



18:34:32  <peter1138> Just needs a tag... and a website post.



18:35:00  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 commented on pull request #16122: Add: Allow user to select a vertical placement of main toolbar https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16122#issuecomment-6547511432



18:35:33  <_glx_> hmm according to data in debugger, it looks like `item_config` is not null but contains garbage



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18:39:57  <_glx_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1566159813354987710/image.png?ex=6ae7877d&is=6ae635fd&hm=91b81b4dda243ba31af741f360bdec2dfef9f0cf8cab7c89fda98b2ef3841a1d&



18:47:50  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] PeterN opened pull request #414: Add: Release post for OpenTTD 16.0-RC1 https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/414



18:51:27  <peter1138> _glx_, strange that it works on one line and then not the next, but then again if it's some random memory location who knows.



18:55:57  <_glx_> The first line skips the test (first side of the or is true)



18:56:07  <peter1138> Ah, of course.



18:56:52  <andythenorth_> deleting more Horse, this colour combo can go https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/sK9VEEEA/image.png



18:59:13  <peter1138> A BuildProbabilityType for randomised colour?



18:59:26  <peter1138> (Unlikely to be useful)



19:07:04  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX2] edotsba commented on pull request #253: Update: signals depend on signal side https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenGFX2/pull/253#issuecomment-6547865621



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19:15:42  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] edotsba commented on issue #15608: [Bug]: Setting "Road vehicles: drive on left/right" affects semaphore graphics https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/15608



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19:24:55  <andythenorth_> not sure why I'm deleting stuff TBH



19:25:15  <andythenorth_> just 11782 vehicles seems excessive, just for colours



19:26:34  <peter1138> 0.2 (2004-04-03)



19:26:39  <peter1138> - Feature: show semaphores on the right side if right-sided traffic



19:26:54  <peter1138> 22 years later and it's now a "bug"



19:27:19  <peter1138> 0.1.3



19:27:23  <peter1138> - Possibility to use either semaphores or signals (Ctrl key)



19:28:56  <peter1138> -> pub



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19:43:11  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 opened pull request #16125: Add: [Android] Delete, Control and Shift buttons to main toolbar https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16125



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19:50:34  <rito12_13> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1566177582997704784/Zrzut_ekranu_z_2026-10-31_20-48-37.png?ex=6ae79809&is=6ae64689&hm=a9f4a420ce6e13291c7a5a6a28881cad5db886c17919f668cefd9e43f3fc725e&



19:50:34  <rito12_13> They aren't that much far.



20:03:45  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #16125: Add: [Android] Delete, Control and Shift buttons to main toolbar https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16125#issuecomment-6548469800



20:31:06  <talltyler> I will make a socials image for RC1



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20:32:39  <andythenorth_> \o/



20:34:02  <talltyler> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1566188521511846039/horse.png?ex=6ae7a239&is=6ae650b9&hm=8d5be6a9b4d94d13a35a0245bda3f416d2e09464ec53837b608fa2c1e75fb920&



20:34:02  <talltyler> andythenorth: New horse looks great, glad you took the time to do tail lamps on push-pull locos 🙂



20:36:13  <andythenorth_> it was easy after I thought about it for a long time :)



20:36:24  <andythenorth_> it just extracts the yellow lights to a new layer in the compile



20:36:38  <andythenorth_> and makes them red



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20:49:48  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #414: Add: Release post for OpenTTD 16.0-RC1 https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/414#issuecomment-6548954502



20:49:57  <peter1138[d]> I have the release button waiting, but, oh pub still



20:53:21  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] 2TallTyler approved pull request #414: Add: Release post for OpenTTD 16.0-RC1 https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/414#pullrequestreview-5724866355



20:53:34  <talltyler> I can put the release buttons while you enjoy the pub 🙂



20:53:43  <talltyler> -put +push



20:55:47  <peter1138[d]> Good idea



20:56:00  <peter1138[d]> Last time I spammed the chat with dog on keyboard



20:57:31  <peter1138[d]> I can do mastodon when I get home



20:58:33  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler created new tag: 16.0-RC1 https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/releases/tag/16.0-RC1



20:59:09  <peter1138[d]> talltyler: (via GitHub) 🎉



20:59:15  <LordAro> :o



20:59:16  <peter1138[d]> Uh



21:01:32  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened pull request #16126: Doc: Add missing PR number to changelog https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16126



21:03:32  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened pull request #16127: Doc: Add missing PR number to changelog https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16127



21:03:35  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 commented on pull request #16125: Add: [Android] Delete, Control and Shift buttons to main toolbar https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16125#issuecomment-6549102667



21:03:38  <talltyler> Two PRs to update both master and release/16 branches



21:05:50  <LordAro> does it need the explicit PR? or can the backport stuff handle it?



21:06:05  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #16125: Add: [Android] Delete, Control and Shift buttons to main toolbar https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16125#issuecomment-6549129761



21:06:28  <talltyler> I could just add the Backport Requested label, but figured it might be easier to just open a second PR



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21:23:29  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened pull request #16128: Change: Heading for 17 now https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16128



21:26:45  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] 2TallTyler merged pull request #414: Add: Release post for OpenTTD 16.0-RC1 https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/414



21:32:35  <talltyler> Discord and TT-Forums done



21:39:08  <talltyler> _zephyris: Want to take a stab at Steam? I can help.



21:39:33  <talltyler> (if you're busy, I am happy to do it myself)



21:40:19  <_zephyris> Trying to get sugar-fuelled heavily hallowened small children to bed I'm afraid...



21:40:36  <talltyler> No worries, I imagine we'll do an RC2



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21:49:17  <talltyler> Steam done



21:59:03  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] zephyris commented on pull request #16125: Add: [Android] Delete, Control and Shift buttons to main toolbar https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16125#issuecomment-6549681986



22:11:50  <_zephyris> Normally would be able to help at this kinda time, Halloween effect!



22:24:43  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] orudge merged pull request #16007: Feature: D3D11 video driver https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16007



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23:20:43  <peter1138[d]> Yay woo yay etc



23:32:13  <audigex> Am I right in saying that the 2CC colour doesn't directly match to the COLOUR_GREEN gradient?



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