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00:39:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #16048: Change: Add navigation history to industry chain window https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16048
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01:12:34 <tony_pixel> huh, a crash
01:12:39 <tony_pixel> while deleting savegames
01:12:44 <tony_pixel> something known perhaps/
01:14:20 <tony_pixel> I'll open the issue if it happens again, I don't have time atm for this
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04:11:26 <jfkuayue> gnumeric > libreoffice calc
04:12:21 <reldred> You’re a few days late from that conversation
04:12:56 <jfkuayue> :(
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05:00:11 <reldred> and the main point I had at least was that if you've got people far too deeply invested in excel (formulas, vba, etc.) then you're basically stuck unless you can get buy-in from the people who designed them to reimplement them in something else entirely.
05:00:37 <reldred> common trap people get with NGO/nfp types when they try and convert them over entirely to open source.
05:01:51 <reldred> excel and access are probably the two stickiest and most insidious parts of the M$ ecosystem. Just about everything else can be replaced, but an access DB or sufficiently sophisticated excel spreadsheet is a straight up software/database development project.
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05:03:13 <reldred> and I still haven't settled on what I want to do for IAM/AD replacement, but I'm running out of RAM in my proxmox cluster
05:03:18 <reldred> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1554720269795598336/image.png?backend=b2&ex=6abde995&is=6abc9815&hm=0b07e0e1d24791af74682de14cd24bfe86e879089147e472a02fab105ae33896&
05:03:18 <reldred> :widdle_goblin:
05:03:45 <reldred> got like 10gig of headroom on ram across my three hosts :
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06:10:05 <Izzybee> I'm running 389ds for LDAP and it's okay. It's not the whole picture though.
06:11:44 <reldred> Yeah I was considering spinning up a rocky VM or container and doing the full fat redhat/IBM freeIPA deployment
06:12:59 <reldred> but I don't have the ram to throw around for that atm. Only got 16gig in each of my nodes. Rammageddon kinda took me unawares and I wasted money on other crap instead of stocking up on sodimms and nvme when it was so cheap 😢
06:13:18 <reldred> did the networking though earlier this month. Was good to get that squared awayu
06:15:38 <Izzybee> my 389ds containers are using a whole ~128M each but I don't know how heavy those get as FreeIPA and such
06:17:49 <reldred> Yeah
06:18:00 <reldred> For me it's an educational piece as much as anything
06:19:15 <reldred> It would be nice to know how to deploy an entirely open source IT stack. I'm quite comfortable with proxmox and nextcloud now, the next step would be freeipa and then redoing nextcloud with auth fully handled by the freeipa server.
06:19:35 <reldred> Basically a basic bitch vmware+AD+sharepoint replacement in a box.
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06:32:49 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 opened pull request #16049: Codechange: Move AreMergable from CargoLists to CargoPacket https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16049
06:39:22 <reldred> I've been toying with the idea of setting up a side business, almost a charity, of helping unfuck IT and get off of microsoft for non profits, etc. Be a while before I'm in any position to do it though. Used to support a lot of them at my last place. Was fulfilling, but I don't expect it to be profitable heh.
06:48:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] edyhchan opened pull request #16050: Change: Fix industry number to respect density setting https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16050
08:00:33 <peter1138> Oh dear.
08:16:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 updated pull request #16041: Feature: [NewGRF] Allow act3 to define cargo class specific spritegroups. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16041
08:20:42 <peter1138> Haha, they merged a fix and did a release while I was away.
08:21:00 <peter1138> No problem with the fix itself, but the commit message is... "Fix"
08:22:06 <LordAro> heh
08:22:13 <LordAro> good trip?
08:24:56 <peter1138> Not bad.
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08:26:20 <LordAro> it was YHA Cheshunt, right?
08:26:29 <peter1138> First night, yup.
08:26:32 <LordAro> hehe
08:27:20 <reldred> I need to actually take a holiday at some point
08:32:16 <Wolf01> I just finished my holiday, went to Skaerbaek fan weekend (LEGO, obviously), I can't decide if this one fixed or killed me :P
08:33:41 <reldred> I should head north and go frollic about in the tropics some, go see the sugarcane trains, and try and not get eaten by crocs taking photos in damp places.
08:34:44 <reldred> alas, the closest thing I'll get to a holiday is going back home to visit the parents after NY and go get my wagon out of storage and take it to my techpriest
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10:12:22 <peter1138> is it not home time yet?
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10:42:47 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/badc9696e22482ad9b89404bc2e3de44cf53f9e8
10:42:48 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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11:20:52 <kuhnovic> It is lunch time
11:23:28 <LordAro> ah, good
11:24:40 <reldred> Well it’s bed time so must be around lunch time your neck of the woods
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11:54:00 <hpiirai> `/usr/local/src/openttd/src/openttd.cpp:125:9: error: ‘_exit’ was not declared in this scope; did you mean ‘_Exit’?`
11:54:00 <hpiirai> something to do with https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16037?
11:56:39 <LordAro> doubtful
11:56:49 <LordAro> _exit was unconditional previously
12:15:53 <peter1138> https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/_exit.2.html
12:16:22 <peter1138> Possibly it should be _Exit. The header changes in #16039 are likely the cause of this.
12:47:21 <jfkuayue> Cheshunt is a good place to have accommodation with privacy near London
12:52:54 <_glx_> but our CI runs have no issue with the header changes
12:56:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] tabytac opened pull request #16051: Change: Weight Screensaver Mode vehicle selection by vehicle type https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16051
12:58:54 <peter1138> Our CI doesn't build for *BSD.
12:59:15 <LordAro> ah yes, /usr/local/src. good cach
12:59:16 <peter1138> Someone was, can't remember if it was hpiirai though.
12:59:16 <LordAro> +t
12:59:42 <hpiirai> no, Debian here
13:15:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #16051: Change: Weight Screensaver Mode vehicle selection by vehicle type https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16051#issuecomment-5912059590
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14:16:36 <will_marshall_> >< this close to crashing out and the straw that breaks the camel's back is going to be visual studio
14:17:16 <will_marshall_> debugging something and i have find results tabs docked, end the debugging session and of course it switches back to the other layout and the find results are gone again
14:17:43 <will_marshall_> getting them back is easy but the process of getting the menu back up was so nearly the thing that made me kick the power switch and go take a nap
14:28:35 <mmtunligit> im getting similarly infuriated by UE4
14:29:32 <LordAro> :(
14:30:06 <mmtunligit> we love our big beautiful industry standard programs that DONT WORK
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16:39:59 <andythenorth> well
16:48:39 <andythenorth> forgot that multi-tile objects need special purchase menu handling 😛
16:48:44 <andythenorth> silly me
16:59:17 <peter1138> Oops, accidental nappage.
17:06:35 <andythenorth> happens
17:16:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #16048: Change: Add navigation history to industry chain window https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16048
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18:21:34 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/dibridge] SnowyCoder opened issue #283: Support for multiple channels https://github.com/OpenTTD/dibridge/issues/283
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19:10:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #16049: Codechange: Move AreMergable from CargoLists to CargoPacket https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16049#pullrequestreview-5370799304
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19:16:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #16044: Change: Toggle size of industry chain display. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16044
19:17:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #16048: Change: Add navigation history to industry chain window https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16048#issuecomment-5918023945
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20:00:02 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #16044: Change: Toggle size of industry chain display. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16044#pullrequestreview-5371334157
20:07:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #16042: Fix #10044, #14996: [MacOS] Mouse cursor hiding https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16042#pullrequestreview-5371360574
20:15:53 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perryprog updated pull request #16042: Fix #10044, #14996: [MacOS] Mouse cursor hiding https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16042
20:16:51 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perryprog commented on pull request #16042: Fix #10044, #14996: [MacOS] Mouse cursor hiding https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16042#pullrequestreview-5371500601
20:19:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perryprog commented on pull request #16042: Fix #10044, #14996: [MacOS] Mouse cursor hiding https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16042#issuecomment-5918960627
20:31:35 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #16042: Fix #10044, #14996: [MacOS] Mouse cursor hiding https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16042#pullrequestreview-5371661203
20:34:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perryprog commented on pull request #16042: Fix #10044, #14996: [MacOS] Mouse cursor hiding https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16042#issuecomment-5919258617
20:39:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perryprog updated pull request #16042: Fix #10044, #14996: [MacOS] Mouse cursor hiding https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16042
20:47:30 <peter1138> Unnecessary comment wrapping :D
20:57:26 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perryprog updated pull request #16042: Fix #10044, Fix #14996: [MacOS] Mouse cursor hiding https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/16042
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23:40:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] metablaster started discussion #16052: Rocks on water create problems for AI's https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/16052