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00:24:14  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Shtacks commented on issue #15784: [Crash]: Exception Access Violation https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/15784



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04:26:36  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #15787: Codechange: make ChunkType scoped https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15787



04:40:30  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #15788: Codechange: make SavegameType scoped https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15788



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05:59:06  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/2a6a65662d70d355ee28e8a844f7134db2ea56a9



05:59:07  <DorpsGek>   - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)



06:26:50  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #15789: Fix #15784: Do close and reopen road build toolbar when switching road/tram types. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15789



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06:54:34  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15789: Fix #15784: Do close and reopen road build toolbar when switching road/tram types. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15789#pullrequestreview-4587165050



07:07:14  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15782: Fix: [NewGRF] Ensure Act2 read error replaces current set id https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15782



07:08:18  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15789: Fix #15784: Do close and reopen road build toolbar when switching road/tram types. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15789



07:08:21  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN closed issue #15784: [Crash]: Exception Access Violation https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/15784



07:12:57  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #15783: Codechange: make PerformanceElement scoped https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15783#pullrequestreview-4587181810



07:37:19  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #15783: Codechange: make PerformanceElement scoped https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15783



08:30:43  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #15790: Codechange: simplify/shrink SaveLoadCompat https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15790



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09:30:01  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #15790: Codechange: simplify/shrink SaveLoadCompat https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15790



09:54:26  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #15791: Codechange: make SaveLoadType scoped https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15791



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14:24:50  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN approved pull request #15783: Codechange: make PerformanceElement scoped https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15783#pullrequestreview-4587662713



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14:33:32  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #15792: Codechange: make NewGRF sprite group related enums scoped. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15792



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14:55:32  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #15783: Codechange: make PerformanceElement scoped https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15783



15:04:20  <lordgarysugar> Is there a reason why towns imported from .json are significantly bigger than founded small towns? Even though the desired population in the json is set to 0 or 1 lots of the towns have a population of 270 or 250, but when founding small towns manually they can have a population as low as 35 or 18. Is there a way the feature works that might cause this difference?



15:11:51  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15792: Codechange: make NewGRF sprite group related enums scoped. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15792#pullrequestreview-4587715656



15:19:14  <talltyler> Hmm, looks like all towns get one extra “expand” step because I used a do while loop instead of a while loop. I can fix that.



15:19:48  <peter1138> The algorithm is different anyway.



15:21:05  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15792: Codechange: make NewGRF sprite group related enums scoped. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15792



15:21:32  <lordgarysugar> talltyler: Good to hear, I'd like to keep the villages as small as possible to emphasise the difference between them and proper towns



15:39:59  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #15788: Codechange: make SavegameType scoped https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15788#pullrequestreview-4587746540



15:49:23  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #15788: Codechange: make SavegameType scoped https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15788



15:58:50  <talltyler> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1520820784363343903/uk_example.json?ex=6a42963a&is=6a4144ba&hm=dfffc9540fa17dea0e94caaee47d78a97975d7ace34f96f0b80376e0fa213a0f&



15:58:50  <talltyler> lordgarysugar: Hmm, I actually can't reproduce this in 16.0-beta1. I'm getting plenty of towns with a population of 30-100, with this example data.



15:58:56  <digitalfox> Almost there with the “enumeration scoped” conversion? 🙂



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16:04:43  <peter1138> Nope.



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16:13:31  <peter1138> talltyler, will also depend on things like NewGRF house sets.



16:14:27  <lordgarysugar> talltyler: in both jgr and ottd 16 beta 1, when I load 584 towns with population 1 in, I get a total population of 103,000, an average of 188 per town. When I manually place 50 small towns, I have a population of 4850, or 97 per town



16:15:50  <belajalilija> Consider house types and landscape types



16:16:02  <talltyler> Right, but the code seems to indicate that the town should always be expanded, and they are not.



16:16:10  <belajalilija> Also the bigger the sample the bigger the margin of error



16:16:34  <talltyler> I am importing towns in Scenario Editor, then placing towns, and they are the same size



16:16:39  <lordgarysugar> the bigger the sample, the smaller the margin of error



16:16:42  <belajalilija> Like how the more you flip a coin the less likely you are to get 50% heads



16:17:15  <lordgarysugar> the more you flip a coin, the closer the average will become to 50% heads



16:17:21  <lordgarysugar> but that's beside the point



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16:21:17  <squirejames> The more planes you have, the more likely you are to suffer a plane crash



16:21:37  <squirejames> (reminded me of that, as I seemed to be suffering HUGE amounts of air crashes the other day)



16:21:44  <belajalilija> lordgarysugar: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/2649261/why-does-probability-of-50-50-outcome-decrease-as-we-toss-a-coin-more-and-more



16:22:17  <lordgarysugar> I know how probabilities work



16:22:32  <lordgarysugar> but it's not a relevant mathematical argument



17:03:23  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #15793: Codechange: Make town-related enums scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15793



17:11:04  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #15793: Codechange: Make town-related enums scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15793#pullrequestreview-4587858073



17:13:33  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #15785: Codechange: make OpenGLSprite::Texture scoped https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15785#pullrequestreview-4587860745



17:18:23  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #15787: Codechange: make ChunkType scoped https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15787#pullrequestreview-4587863848



17:21:19  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #15791: Codechange: make SaveLoadType scoped https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15791#pullrequestreview-4587869115



17:25:49  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #15785: Codechange: make OpenGLSprite::Texture scoped https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15785



17:26:25  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #15791: Codechange: make SaveLoadType scoped https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15791



17:30:22  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #15787: Codechange: make ChunkType scoped https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15787



17:33:53  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #15790: Codechange: simplify/shrink SaveLoadCompat https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15790



17:39:00  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #15775: Codechange: Replace StringAlignment enum with Alignment struct https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15775



17:53:08  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] WolfieFox opened pull request #15794: Add: Ability to flip (control-click) articulated vehicles in the depot https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15794



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18:34:31  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15775: Codechange: Replace StringAlignment enum with Alignment struct https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15775#pullrequestreview-4587946186



18:40:00  <mmtunligit> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1520861339449299116/image.png?ex=6a42bbff&is=6a416a7f&hm=a9eb8a781cbb2262707e38002c1e7bb7a2887bb1437a86e6bc5b49354bbaa3d9&



18:40:00  <mmtunligit> do rivers look weird for anyone else in recent master? this is my branch but i havent done anything that should affect river graphics



18:40:22  <mmtunligit> oh in fact a whole bunch of sprites are messed up



18:41:04  <andythenorth> articulated vehicles flip? 👀



18:41:29  <peter1138> I likely break things :)



18:41:53  <talltyler> Riverban’ks



18:42:12  <mmtunligit> newgrf roads were the other weird one



18:43:12  <mmtunligit> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1520862148916416572/image.png?ex=6a42bcc0&is=6a416b40&hm=c4c1c6362c0a754ea2fdc9f0b351fda3397e99b57abce060dbf7e9e97f0835ef&



18:43:37  <mmtunligit> different road types all come out looking the same, and all very very wrong



18:46:20  <peter1138> andythenorth, that'll definitely please the authors who use articulated vehicles just to prevent flipping.



18:48:24  <belajalilija> peter1138: wait, does this mean it will work for 9/8+ stuff now?



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18:52:25  <peter1138> #15782 is wrong, it breaks chains. Whoops.



18:52:37  <andythenorth> peter1138: such authors



18:55:38  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #15795: Revert: "Fix: [NewGRF] Ensure Act2 read error replaces current set id (#15782)" https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15795



18:59:00  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15795: Revert: "Fix: [NewGRF] Ensure Act2 read error replaces current set id (#15782)" https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15795#pullrequestreview-4587970420



18:59:04  <will_marshall_> andythenorth: are the authors in the room with us right now? (no, they have long since gotten too grumpy and quit)



19:04:17  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN dismissed a review for pull request #15775: Codechange: Replace StringAlignment enum with Alignment struct https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15775#pullrequestreview-4587946186



19:04:20  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #15775: Codechange: Replace StringAlignment enum with Alignment struct https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15775



19:04:59  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #15775: Codechange: Replace StringAlignment enum with Alignment struct https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15775#issuecomment-4827097230



19:06:16  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #15787: Codechange: make ChunkType scoped https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15787#pullrequestreview-4587978094



19:07:16  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #15787: Codechange: make ChunkType scoped https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15787



19:07:40  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15775: Codechange: Replace StringAlignment enum with Alignment struct https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15775#pullrequestreview-4587979576



19:35:13  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15795: Revert: "Fix: [NewGRF] Ensure Act2 read error replaces current set id (#15782)" https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15795



19:40:13  <peter1138> mmtunligit, fixed now.



19:43:40  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15775: Codechange: Replace StringAlignment enum with Alignment struct https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15775



19:48:15  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15793: Codechange: Make town-related enums scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15793



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21:00:17  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #15796: Codechange: properly decode VarType to determine whether the maximum values fits in the type https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15796



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21:41:06  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] HyperJeanJean dismissed a review for pull request #14481: Change: Use new game setting for disable_elrails when loading very old save https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14481#pullrequestreview-4565816758



21:41:09  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] HyperJeanJean updated pull request #14481: Change: Use new game setting for disable_elrails when loading very old save https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14481



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22:02:26  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] HyperJeanJean updated pull request #14428: Change: Select snow line height by level instead of coverage https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14428



22:06:17  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] HyperJeanJean commented on pull request #14481: Change: Use new game setting for disable_elrails when loading very old save https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14481#issuecomment-4827538870



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