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02:54:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Baricus commented on pull request #15350: Add: Screensaver Mode https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15350#issuecomment-4059269643
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05:44:35 <ahyangyi> andythenorth: No
05:45:03 <ahyangyi> I gave Dorfromantik a try, and somehow it is very tiring for me
05:45:54 <ahyangyi> the problem is that finding a location to place a tile takes longer and longer as I play
05:47:00 <ahyangyi> And that I am constantly making uninteresting decisions
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08:02:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 commented on pull request #15350: Add: Screensaver Mode https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15350#pullrequestreview-3948338028
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08:58:15 <andythenorth> well
09:07:14 <peter1138> Dare I look?
09:08:11 <peter1138> Nothing to see.
09:08:52 <peter1138> Reddit downvoted the person who said they bought TTD on Steam. Though to be fair the comment was literally just "bought"
09:10:31 <andythenorth> nothing to see
09:10:50 <andythenorth> a few steam reviews have strong opinions about Atari
09:11:03 <andythenorth> bit of inevitable confusion in places
09:11:44 <andythenorth> more coffee?
09:12:10 <andythenorth> massive non-event so far...now people can use the original graphics?
09:12:17 <andythenorth> dunno I know opinions differ, but eh
09:13:10 <andythenorth> meanwhile how do I turn off pull requests in github?
09:13:15 <andythenorth> must be a setting on the repos
09:13:45 <peter1138> The bundling on Steam appears to be in place now.
09:18:55 <andythenorth> it does
09:22:19 <andythenorth> one idiot claiming Atari has taken down OpenTTD
09:22:21 <andythenorth> nvm
09:22:25 <andythenorth> reddit's gonna reddit
09:36:36 <peter1138> > Deleted branch master (was 1ab4dbe).
09:36:39 <peter1138> So woke.
09:37:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15375: Codechange: Make ScriptTile::IsBuildableRectangle use a TileArea for iteration https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15375#pullrequestreview-3948551963
09:37:57 <locosage> well, now we know what OpenTTD is abbreviation for
09:38:04 <locosage> Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe Mod :p
09:39:40 <andythenorth> what was the main branch called in svn?
09:44:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #15357: Fix: [Script] IsBuildableRectangle is short for the width and height of 1 https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15357
09:46:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15357: Fix: [Script] IsBuildableRectangle is short for the width and height of 1 https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15357#pullrequestreview-3948565411
09:47:45 <peter1138> andythenorth, "trunk", but it wasn't a branch, because in svn branches are... shit.
09:48:44 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15366: Codechange: [CI] Give examples in errors in file description checker. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15366#pullrequestreview-3948567689
09:51:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #15358: Fix: release mouse capture when closing window via right-click https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15358#issuecomment-4060186345
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10:19:53 <jfs> peter1138: this is replying to 36 hours old message, but the #tycoon IRC channel on QuakeNet was once owned by me, I set it up and managed it in like 2002 or 2003, and at the time I was strongly anti-OpenTTD. so the channel had an enforced "no OpenTTD discussions whatsoever" rule. at some point I handed management of the channel over and the basis for that rule sort-of vanished, but maybe it was
10:19:53 <jfs> kept for whatever reason.
10:32:09 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] Jimmysaaan commented on pull request #380: Add: Announcement of Steam changes https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/380#pullrequestreview-3948616738
11:04:13 <andythenorth> Hmm can we just relax and make grfs again? 👀
11:06:13 <peter1138> Play the meta-game.
11:15:42 <andythenorth> I think I’ve been playing the wrong meta-game
11:15:44 <andythenorth> Oops
11:35:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 approved pull request #15357: Fix: [Script] IsBuildableRectangle is short for the width and height of 1 https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15357#pullrequestreview-3948709245
11:50:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] Da-Boom commented on pull request #380: Add: Announcement of Steam changes https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/380#issuecomment-4060385091
11:52:37 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] andythenorth commented on pull request #380: Add: Announcement of Steam changes https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/380#issuecomment-4060397062
12:24:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] rubidium42 approved pull request #380: Add: Announcement of Steam changes https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/380#pullrequestreview-3948786512
12:36:04 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] NigelT2 opened issue #15384: Open TTD hangs with simple map but with 5 large and growing cites https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/15384
12:37:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] NigelT2 commented on issue #15384: Open TTD hangs with simple map but with 5 large and growing cites https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/15384
12:38:09 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] rubidium42 commented on pull request #380: Add: Announcement of Steam changes https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/380#issuecomment-4060489288
12:44:35 <andythenorth> post needs a merge? or are we waiting?
12:45:13 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 closed issue #15384: Open TTD hangs with simple map but with 5 large and growing cites https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/15384
12:45:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on issue #15384: Open TTD hangs with simple map but with 5 large and growing cites https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/15384
12:46:38 <jfkuayue> Still using 0.57?
12:48:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] CodingGreen commented on pull request #380: Add: Announcement of Steam changes https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/380#issuecomment-4060502081
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12:48:26 <_zephyris> Merge, but perhaps get someone else's opinion too as I was a bit hasty on Thurs?
12:49:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] andythenorth commented on pull request #380: Add: Announcement of Steam changes https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/380#issuecomment-4060503647
12:50:41 <andythenorth> I think this is fine https://d7de6a52.openttd-website-2fx.pages.dev/news/2026/03/12/steam-changes
12:53:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] glx22 commented on pull request #380: Add: Announcement of Steam changes https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/380#pullrequestreview-3948823894
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13:03:30 <reldred> _zephyris: Seems fine. People with half a brain cell can read between the lines, idiot keyboard warriors will continue to miss the point as always
13:06:09 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] PeterN commented on pull request #380: Add: Announcement of Steam changes https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/380#issuecomment-4060523013
13:13:03 <emperorjake> Will OpenTTD on Steam/GOG continue to be distributed with OpenGFX2, or will new installs default to the TTD graphics?
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13:17:02 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #380: Add: Announcement of Steam changes https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/380#pullrequestreview-3948834686
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13:18:49 <talltyler> Still OpenGFX2. It would be nice to detect the TTD graphics and show it as an option in the base graphics dropdown, but we haven’t done that yet
13:26:10 <peter1138> Maybe it's possible to get the working directory of OpenTTD, and extrapolate from that the path to the original graphics.
13:26:35 <peter1138> Well, for Steam at least, not sure about how GoG lays things out.
13:27:06 <andythenorth> shall I buy it on Gog and find out?
13:33:01 <locosage> reldred: surely there are better ways to put it than making advertisement for Atari
13:33:37 <locosage> because right now a lot of people seem to think they'll actually support the game by buying it
13:35:01 <_glx_> peter1138: though you can have multiple steamapps on different drives
13:35:24 <mmtunligit> > idiot keyboard warriors will continue to miss the point as always
13:35:39 <peter1138> You can, yes, though not sure if being considered a "mod" changes that.
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14:13:06 <_glx_> based on my reading of steamworks API, it seems the steam plugin could get TTD install dir
14:13:53 <_glx_> there's <https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/api/ISteamApps#GetAppInstallDir>
14:14:17 <peter1138> > This works even if the application is not installed, based on where the game would be installed with the default Steam library location.
14:14:20 <peter1138> :o
14:14:46 <_glx_> would be similar to non exisiting search folders 🙂
14:22:57 <jfkuayue> There is a player on steam saying they had an error launching openttd, "no permission"
14:23:14 <jfkuayue> oops :fear:
14:23:20 <jfkuayue> 😨
14:29:06 <peter1138> Are you feeling alright?
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15:06:59 <_zephyris> locosage: This is a good point. Could add a reminder of how to donate to OpenTTD
15:52:27 <locosage> also could disclose how much of those 9.99 openttd is going to get 😉
15:52:34 <locosage> and what they're going to be spent on /s
15:52:51 <locosage> purely for the sake of transparency 🤭
15:54:22 <locosage> also, what benefits do people who already own a copy of the original game get by buying it again
15:57:03 <belajalilija> locosage: A lighter wallet
15:58:36 <peter1138> I have weird malted Yorkshire tea, and I'm going to supplement it by dunking a malted biscuit.
16:09:35 <jfkuayue> English problem, why is it "this fucking sucks" instead of an adverb before a verb, and it is unexpected when brough is pronounced as "bruff"
16:10:59 <peter1138> Are you feeling alright?
16:19:01 <belajalilija> peter1138: That sounds awful
16:19:22 <peter1138> It's weird but not as bad as it sounds.
16:19:52 <belajalilija> Is it more like a hot chocolate type drink or still very much tea?
16:21:16 <jfkuayue> Im feeling good
16:21:32 <belajalilija> It was a rhetorical question
16:24:07 <peter1138> It is tea.
16:24:49 <jfkuayue> I am increasing my uk railway network coverage
16:29:38 <belajalilija> peter1138: Ahh
16:29:38 <belajalilija> I know some things call themselves something but don’t taste of it at all, like cheesecake
16:30:02 <peter1138> A good cheesecake tastes of cheesecake.
16:32:53 <belajalilija> I mean yeah but they don’t taste of cheese, same with tiramisu, they’re both very different
16:36:29 <peter1138> They're made with cheese, and then usually over flavoured stuff added on.
16:36:57 <peter1138> They taste of fresh soft cheese.
16:37:30 <peter1138> It's not some 24 month old aged cheddar...
16:40:39 <rito12_13> cheddar is not a white cheese, is it?
16:42:29 <jfkuayue> for me the category is "tangly cheese, creamy cheese, stinky cheese"
16:49:26 <ahyangyi> jfkuayue: "fucking" is also an adverb
16:50:23 <rito12_13> jfkuayue: what is the difference between tangly and stinky
16:50:58 <jfkuayue> edam vs blue
16:55:14 <LordAro> i'm quite partial to it being used in the middle of words too
16:55:22 <LordAro> like abso-fucking-lutely
16:55:56 <LordAro> i think there's a Tom Scott video on that particular grammatical oddity
16:56:41 <ahyangyi> infix
16:57:19 <andythenorth> what shall we make today?
16:57:22 <andythenorth> newgrf docks?
16:57:30 <andythenorth> private badges in Horse?
16:57:42 <rito12_13> cheese
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16:57:56 <notluke2578> jam
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16:57:58 <brickblock19280> Docks yes
16:59:15 <ahyangyi> so... badged horses jamming a cheesy dock?
16:59:50 <andythenorth> `ih_formation_ruleset` -> `_ih_formation_ruleset`
16:59:57 <andythenorth> is my current project
17:00:15 <ahyangyi> quick polar fox jumps over iron horse
17:01:01 <ahyangyi> oh is it arctic fox?
17:01:20 <andythenorth> is `ih_gen` public or private?
17:01:34 <andythenorth> it provides the vehicle generation, eg ih_gen/2
17:01:54 <andythenorth> probably public
17:01:58 <ahyangyi> it's private until someone else uses it
17:02:16 <ahyangyi> at which point it's public with no way back
17:02:35 <rito12_13> ahyangyi: you also ate b
17:05:30 <ahyangyi> ahyangyi: Oh, polar.
17:07:05 <belajalilija> peter1138: That’s what i mean, if it tasted more of tea or malt xd
17:07:18 <andythenorth> hmm ih_tech_tree
17:07:23 <andythenorth> public or private
17:07:47 <ahyangyi> who can interact with your badges?
17:07:55 <ahyangyi> only other train wagons?
17:08:30 <andythenorth> unsure if we added AI/GS yet
17:08:41 <andythenorth> any other train vehicle can read them
17:09:09 <andythenorth> tech tree badges are mostly for debug, but could be of use to an AI or GS https://github.com/Rito13/BaNaNaS-get_badge_labels/blob/main/gen_docs/public_labels.md#ih_tech_tree
17:09:23 <ahyangyi> I guess that's public enough
17:23:31 <andythenorth> well that's done
17:23:44 <andythenorth> not on bananas yet, other unfinished changes
17:23:47 <_cyclops_> hey - if i was to reinstall my laptop but want to keep the same 'identity' for when i connect to a remote server, what files should i backup?
17:34:41 <peter1138> secrets.cfg
17:43:09 <jfkuayue> > Please note that Canon decided that they won't include the shutter count data as a part of your pictures' metadata so, if you upload a picture, there is a high chance that it won't return its shutter count. All of the other EXIF metadata is available, of course. You can try anyway, though. What's the solution? You need to use their official software and connect your Camera to the pc. You can say
17:43:09 <jfkuayue> thanks to Canon for this
17:43:09 <jfkuayue> BUT ONLY FOR WINDOWS AND MAC
17:48:58 <_cyclops_> thanks peter1138
17:49:36 <_cyclops_> jfkuayue, you can just strip the exif data from the image i guess?
18:25:28 <jfkuayue> _cyclops_: i need to check my shutter count
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20:18:19 <_cyclops_> jfkuayue, ah! i think there's a thing in th emenu on the camera somewhere
20:20:03 <jfkuayue> _cyclops_: I have had been through the menu thrice
20:20:26 <jfkuayue> No "shutter count"
20:21:09 <_cyclops_> annoying
20:26:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] orudge dismissed a review for pull request #380: Add: Announcement of Steam changes https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/380#pullrequestreview-3948786512
20:26:36 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] orudge updated pull request #380: Add: Announcement of Steam changes https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/380
20:27:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] orudge commented on pull request #380: Add: Announcement of Steam changes https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/380#issuecomment-4061321810
20:32:17 <belajalilija> I’m glad talks with atari went well and relations are good
20:33:19 <orudge> Yes, just so it's clear, Atari haven't done this unilaterally; it's just unfortunately the Steam rollout has been a bit more problematic than we'd hoped.
20:44:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] rubidium42 approved pull request #380: Add: Announcement of Steam changes https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/380#pullrequestreview-3949263468
20:45:53 <peter1138> jfkuayue, "warning, you have used the shutter 1000 times, please subscribe to enable more photos to be taken"
20:50:11 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/website] orudge merged pull request #380: Add: Announcement of Steam changes https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/380
20:51:06 <LordAro> huzzah
20:52:45 <belajalilija> https://tenor.com/view/huzzah-the-great-nicholas-hoult-peter-iii-gif-17589950
21:23:38 <jfkuayue> i cannot find an EA in Canon
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22:53:53 <LordAro> woo, #1 on HN
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23:03:45 <peter1138> "woo"
23:03:50 <peter1138> It's a shithole of a site.
23:04:25 <LordAro> woo indeed
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