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00:03:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #11378: Change: Use cargo Town Effect for town production https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11378#issuecomment-1767378069
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00:43:11 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Andrew350 commented on pull request #11378: Change: Use cargo Town Effect for town production https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11378#issuecomment-1767411586
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00:50:37 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/workflows] dependabot[bot] opened pull request #38: Upgrade: Bump urllib3 from 1.26.16 to 1.26.18 in /cdn https://github.com/OpenTTD/workflows/pull/38
00:50:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/workflows] dependabot[bot] commented on pull request #37: Upgrade: Bump urllib3 from 1.26.16 to 1.26.17 in /cdn https://github.com/OpenTTD/workflows/pull/37#issuecomment-1767418894
00:50:43 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/workflows] dependabot[bot] closed pull request #37: Upgrade: Bump urllib3 from 1.26.16 to 1.26.17 in /cdn https://github.com/OpenTTD/workflows/pull/37
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01:04:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/workflows] glx22 opened pull request #39: Fix: Don't announce dependabot pull-requests https://github.com/OpenTTD/workflows/pull/39
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03:02:43 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 commented on pull request #11341: Feature: Real-Time Mode https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11341#pullrequestreview-1683838841
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09:18:46 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] sjoerd0301 commented on issue #11353: [Bug]: incorrect resolution set with multiple monitors https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/11353
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10:27:37 <alfagamma7> Hmm
10:36:07 <pickpacket> indeed
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10:49:03 <alfagamma7> I do have a question though, how much does the Real Time Mode for vanilla openttd proposed by Tyler differs from the daylength feature in JGR?
10:59:44 <_glx_> A lot, it's a different concept
11:14:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] sjoerd0301 commented on issue #11353: [Bug]: incorrect resolution set with multiple monitors https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/11353
11:31:41 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Lamrr commented on issue #11353: [Bug]: incorrect resolution set with multiple monitors https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/11353
11:56:42 <peter1138> Hurrah, such salad.
11:57:30 <andythenorth> I had chips and ham
11:57:33 <andythenorth> or ham and chips
11:57:35 <andythenorth> not sure which
11:57:40 * pickpacket had pasta and meatballs
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12:07:51 <peter1138> Well
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12:12:54 <andythenorth> I tend to agree
12:12:56 <pickpacket> less than an hour left of work
12:13:04 <pickpacket> then blender
12:13:11 <peter1138> Oh really.
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12:14:02 <pickpacket> yup. Warhammer 40k minis come with a ton of extra bits for alternative builds, but not torsos or legs. I'm designing my own for 3D printing. And also heads for my own chapter
12:15:20 <pickpacket> https://lounge.warmedal.se/uploads/06ac0ae7964d8f44/image.png
12:15:29 <pickpacket> it's tedious, but also fun
12:15:39 <peter1138> 3D printing eh? Such modern.
12:15:42 <pickpacket> I'm learning blender as I go.
12:15:58 <pickpacket> Yeah, I don't have my own printer but I know someone with a really good resin printer
12:20:10 <pickpacket> https://lounge.warmedal.se/uploads/65202d0c3fe2eaaa/image.png <-- aristocratic tea-drinking space marine chapter
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12:26:23 <_zephyris> Ah, a fellow 40k/3D addict
12:27:03 <_zephyris> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1164177825666969670/chaos_noisemarine_1991.png?ex=65424417&is=652fcf17&hm=10ac4ac95b81a485bb76e9f3d89b944a06afd90dadbec4512375fba2e023ed9b&
12:27:03 <_zephyris> I cracked in the nerdiest way possible. Built a custom 3D scanner and I'm working through my old collection...
12:31:22 <peter1138> Nice bit of vice there.
14:11:14 <pickpacket> _zephyris: pretty!
14:11:56 <pickpacket> My middle kid has always liked crafting and we just sort of stumble into 40k with scratch building and later kit bashing
14:12:22 <pickpacket> I *love* that part. Building weird things yourself and painting. Playing not so much
14:13:37 <pickpacket> Speaking of making things myself I really want to finish up these blender models, because I have NewGRF projects to do as well
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14:26:37 <_zephyris> Yeah, should really try to 'finish' some OpenTTD stuff too, before getting distracted again!
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14:34:46 <pickpacket> I've been a really good boy this year and finished stuff before moving on!
14:34:59 <pickpacket> A trend I'd like to keep going
14:45:18 <johnfranklin> middle kid... at least three kids. older than me.
14:53:14 <_zephyris> Three kids is a classic trap... The first is hard, the second seems easy (you know what you're doing!), so three must be easy too, right?
14:53:23 <_zephyris> Then they outnumber the adults...
14:58:55 <pickpacket> johnfranklin: yeah, three kids. 13, 11, and 8 yo
14:59:40 <johnfranklin> should you be at least 30
15:02:43 <LordAro> johnfranklin: this is the internet, we try not to worry ourselves about the details of whoever's on the other end of the nickname
15:03:00 <johnfranklin> Okay, sorry
15:03:41 <johnfranklin> Can IRC use "@"?
15:04:29 <LordAro> it can use the character, sure
15:04:38 <LordAro> it doesn't usually use it to refer to other people though
15:04:45 <LordAro> (like discord)
15:04:58 <andythenorth> oof will I buy a thunderbolt enclosure for my nvme backup drive?
15:05:02 <_zephyris> johnfranklin: Hah, it's OK, it's just a bit funny if you're surprised - this is the dev channel for an open source remake of a 30+ year old game! I'm sure lots of us are "old".
15:05:07 <andythenorth> USB 3.1 isn't cutting it
15:05:25 <johnfranklin> _zephyris: In fact it is 29 years.
15:05:44 <LordAro> get told zeph
15:05:50 <_zephyris> burn
15:06:20 <andythenorth> USB 3.1 10Gb/s, Thunderbolt 40 Gb/s
15:07:14 <_zephyris> How much data do you have to back up!?
15:08:51 <_zephyris> Surely your saturating the drive write speed anyway...
15:11:02 <andythenorth> It's only a 1TB drive, I just have no patience
15:11:12 <andythenorth> it takes an hour currently
15:12:34 <andythenorth> think you're right though, the nvme drive is at the relatively cheap end, think it only does 3.5Gb/s
15:14:21 <andythenorth> no, bits vs bytes
15:14:45 <pickpacket> johnfranklin: I'm 38 :)
15:15:12 <andythenorth> the drive will do 24Gb/s
15:15:43 <pickpacket> I asked a 25 yo colleague if they thought I'm old. "I don't perceive you as 'old' but definitely older than me"
15:17:50 <andythenorth> the external drive does about 200MB/s on large writes, my internal drive does about 5500MB/s on large reads
15:19:06 <johnfranklin> Samsung T7 Shield is good
15:24:53 <andythenorth> think it's USB 3.2 only, not thunderbolt
15:27:50 <_zephyris> pickpacket: Hah, I've had that one too
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15:30:57 <peter1138> Maybe you need one of these, andythenorth... https://www.amazon.co.uk/Splitter-Multiport-Adapter-MacBook-Chromebook/dp/B0C13HVFDN
15:31:09 <peter1138> It's "Faster than you think"
15:31:19 <peter1138> So while you might think it's slow...
15:31:27 <andythenorth> peter1138: then rejoin all the wires in a combiner
15:31:32 <andythenorth> 4x faster
15:31:38 <andythenorth> 4 channels right?
15:31:46 <peter1138> Also the well known ZMUIPNG brand.
15:31:49 <peter1138> Yes!
15:32:00 <andythenorth> like RAID 0, but for USB wires
15:32:43 <_zephyris> I swear Amazon shop names are just randomly generated
15:33:30 <peter1138> They are throw-away companies.
15:34:14 <andythenorth> they're generated by GPT
15:34:27 <andythenorth> there are probably scripts to make them at this point
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15:38:42 <peter1138> You won't need any expensive LLM to produce these names...
15:39:04 <LordAro> ^
15:39:09 <andythenorth> hmm GPT is quite expensive
15:39:15 <andythenorth> $20 / month or something
15:39:19 <LordAro> they're basically just strings of characters
15:39:21 <LordAro> not even words
15:39:22 <andythenorth> maybe I should stop paying for it
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17:32:15 <peter1138> Definitely.
17:32:59 <peter1138> Dear Discord, I do definitely not want to pay money to be able to... change your app icon.
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18:05:36 <peter1138> Pack of 6 sausages... "serves 6". Who is having a meal with just one sausage...?
18:06:08 <LordAro> i generally just go with all 6
18:06:21 <LordAro> it's easier than dealing with leftovers
18:08:54 <Rubidium> it serves you and five veg(etari)ans
18:11:55 <LordAro> :D
18:29:26 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #11379: Change: Use CARGO_LIST to show station cargo acceptance changes. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11379
18:30:34 <peter1138> ^ I don't have any patches to make {CARGO_LIST} produce more natural (or indeed more translatable) output.
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18:45:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] AndyAnon14 opened issue #457: [es_MX] Translator access request https://github.com/OpenTTD/team/issues/457
18:57:52 <Rubidium> peter1138: I guess that'll need something for {P .. ..} to do a bitcount and an extension for {CARGO_LIST} to set the separators, e.g. {CARGO_LIST and ,} (or {CARGO_LIST , ,} for the current behaviour
18:58:24 <Rubidium> I wonder whether that might be useful in other places where CARGO_LIST is used, as then it might be worth to implement that
19:02:08 <peter1138> There's STR_INDUSTRY_VIEW_CARGO_LIST_EXTENSION which manually builds such a list, but then that also includes cargo suffixes (whatever they are for.)
19:03:00 <peter1138> There's STR_PURCHASE_INFO_ALL_BUT, with "All but Passengers, Mail". So an 'and' there would be nice too.
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19:57:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #11380: Codechange: Use iterators and/or range-for on cargo related loops. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11380
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20:32:01 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #11380: Codechange: Use iterators and/or range-for on cargo related loops. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11380#pullrequestreview-1686090937
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21:22:14 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #11380: Codechange: Use iterators and/or range-for on cargo related loops. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11380
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