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01:07:12 <reldred> andythenorth: Absolutely.
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03:26:53 <wallabra> openttd is fun, and mindustry is fun too
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08:11:25 <dP> ^^ would be nice to get it in 13.0 ;)
08:26:25 <LordAro> i've created the 13.0 milestone
08:26:46 <LordAro> TallTyler: you can add all the issues/PRs you highlighted to it as well
08:32:54 <andythenorth> Hmm I don’t have my github creds to hand, but
08:32:57 <petern> Morning. Beer was a bad idea, I fell asleep in this chair...
08:33:58 <andythenorth> For mac performance, using the GPU might cause throttling on some macs
08:34:05 <petern> As in, not as far back as rebase --abort
08:34:16 <andythenorth> Only after a few minutes of sustained load
08:35:54 <petern> MacBook Air M2 ... £300 more for 2 extra GPU cores and 256GB SSD
08:36:59 <petern> Fortunately I don't need a laptop 😄
08:38:53 <petern> Mac Studio pricing is amusing, Pay double, two get double the numbers.
08:39:20 <petern> Pay double to get double the numbers
08:39:27 <petern> I should go back to bed.
08:41:40 <andythenorth> Is there not an m1 mini for about 50p?
08:42:58 <andythenorth> Studio is mega money
08:50:08 <andythenorth> Oh the Studio is the one where the dies for the SoC include the big connector
08:50:38 <andythenorth> So yeah, double price, double SoC
09:04:24 <andythenorth> That will make single-threaded nml soooo much faster :p
09:26:52 <petern> I still hate bootstrap. `col-12 col-lg-4` Such verbose.
09:28:06 <petern> Fine once, but then you need it EVERY TIME
09:28:30 <petern> One day I'll learn this newfangled other tech instead
10:43:39 <LordAro> perl -0777 -i -pe 's/(static WindowDesc(.|\n)*?\);)/\/* clang-format off *\/\n\1\n\/* clang-format on *\//mg;' -pe 's/(static const NWidgetPart(.|\n)*?};)/\/* clang-format off *\/\n\1\n\/* clang-format on *\//mg' src/*_gui.cpp
11:04:36 <petern> Special magic to avoid reformatting I guess.
11:05:14 <LordAro> except for the one that is "static const struct NWidgetPart", because of course there was one
11:07:24 <petern> I wonder if changing the array to be actually nested could work.
11:08:02 <petern> Although at that point you are effectively building the window rather than describing the window.
11:08:12 <petern> And being dynamic would be very much harder.
11:17:05 <petern> Thought I was taking it easy last night but still reached 184 on the ol' ticker.
11:32:02 <petern> Probably need to be careful at my age 😛
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11:53:35 <petern> 220 - 184... guess I am actually 36.
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13:35:09 <andythenorth> Definitely clicking that twice
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16:23:43 <Arastais> LordAro: That reminds me, 2TT said he wanted to add #10058 before bc it was trivial, but since then its been discussed and i’ve split the windows as minimally as possible so its still a relatively small change. Since it’s not trivial anymore is it still part of the 13 milestone?
16:24:29 <LordAro> i just added the one because someone asked for it
16:24:33 <LordAro> i've not thought any further than that
17:06:21 <petern> Road bike tonight, woo
17:11:20 <frosch> they are inviting us (though anyone can join, so i guess they ask us to join)
17:11:37 <frosch> main point would be to have access to the codesee PR review tools
17:11:44 <frosch> but all the videos are about css and crap :p
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17:20:10 <frosch> two things: it offer some configureable bots, which check PRs based on some conditions
17:20:40 <frosch> and it has some kind of fancy PR review interface, which tries to guess other relevant code parts
17:22:43 <frosch> i guess we don't need the bots, otherwise tb would have written them already :p
17:22:53 <frosch> i have no idea about the review thingie
17:23:02 <frosch> i was hoping someone else has used it before 🙂
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18:57:10 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
19:24:25 <Bouke> andythenorth: You have some more information about this?
19:31:12 <andythenorth> My 16” i9 does it, but it’s in a cupboard 100 miles away right now 😛
19:31:28 <andythenorth> With a flat battery 😛
19:32:23 <andythenorth> It might also do it without the GPU
19:34:08 <Bouke> Lol the 16" i9 throttles when just idling 🫣
19:37:38 <TallTyler> Arastais: I added it to the milestone but if others disagree we can always remote it
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19:43:36 <andythenorth> Bouke: This would be funnier if it wasn’t true 😬
19:47:44 <Arastais> TallTyler: Thanks. Are you guys planning on adding anything else to the milestone? Also, don't know if you saw but i made #10110 to add your honking pr to a hotkey like u suggested.
19:50:03 <Bouke> (Which is somewhat similar to the "low power mode" introduced in Monterey, but can disable dynamically based on temperature / fan speed / other triggers)
19:51:27 <andythenorth> Ha ha I forgot about Turbo
19:51:54 <andythenorth> “Turbo” on i9 = slower
20:18:56 <petern> I had 8 and 16 MHz modes on my 386sx 🙂
20:19:41 <petern> Never ran Doom on that as it had 1MB RAM
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20:21:01 <frosch> only factor 2? i remember my 386 turbo button doing 4x
20:21:19 <frosch> the 8088 may have had a 2x switch, but it was on the back 😒
20:22:11 <petern> Well tbh it might've been 4.77MHz, but the 7 segment display was set to 8 and 16
20:23:42 <petern> There were 25 MHz and I think AMD even had a 40 MHz 386s, but ours wasn't
20:28:02 <petern> Damn, stupid speed on the tourer tonight
21:01:49 <petern> Negating the benefits with a Krispy Kreme... tut
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21:40:18 <FLHerne> Isn't that just a standard train:RV collision?
21:40:58 <FLHerne> just needs a grf that adds delivery robots as an RV that's a single white pixel
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22:30:51 <Eddi|zuHause> i had a 386 with 25MHz and it had no "turbo" button
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