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01:37:31  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Arastais commented on pull request #10058: Feature, Change: [UI] Split AI/Game Script configuration windows and add them to world gen window https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10058#issuecomment-1291360670

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02:10:36  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] krysclarke updated pull request #10107: Codechange: Moved Sound Driver Parameter list in commandline help text https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10107

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07:57:08  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] bnegrut opened issue #353: [ro_RO] Translator access request https://github.com/OpenTTD/team/issues/353

08:03:18  <petern> So apparently you can focus the 'Start Debugging' button in VS Code.

08:03:33  <petern> And it will activate if you press spacebar.

08:03:50  <petern> Last time something rested on my spacebar for a few seconds.

08:04:05  <petern> It took a while to close all the OpenTTDs that opened up...

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08:23:33  <LordAro> Arastais: get zorg'd

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08:32:47  <petern> Well hanlded

08:32:52  <petern> And well handled.

08:48:35  <andythenorth> Hsuch

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09:01:04  <petern> It's cursed andy, cursed.

09:13:22  <pickpacket> I'm not at home right now so I can't show you, but I'm making some real progress on my teahouse :)

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10:07:46  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] EmperorJake commented on discussion #10100: [macOS] Benchmarks wanted: does hardware acceleration improve performance? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/10100

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10:17:01  <petern> 0.98x in Wentbourne? How the heck!?

10:17:21  <petern> My i7-8700k gets 0.45x 😦

10:18:06  <petern> Wentbourne isn't a very good test for graphics performance though, it's all gameloop bound.

10:26:51  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on issue #353: [ro_RO] Translator access request https://github.com/OpenTTD/team/issues/353

10:27:12  <Bouke> What would be a good test in your opinion? As long as there aren’t many responses, I could squeeze in another savegame.

10:27:42  <EmperorJake> I've said it before, Apple Silicon is incredible

10:32:39  <EmperorJake> I loaded Wentbourne in JGRPP, and it went up to 1.27x

10:32:51  <Bouke> While also not killing your battery.

10:33:20  <EmperorJake> No fan on this thing either

10:33:57  <Bouke> Would be interesting to know what other performance improvements JGR has and whether those could be upstreamed.

10:35:02  <petern> I did a full release build and now get 0.52x, so a little improvement but not much.

10:35:20  <petern> That you can run Wentbourne realtime is... crazy to me.

10:36:27  <petern> Bouke: Wentbourne is always fun test, even if it's not entirely representative here 😄

10:36:51  <LordAro> that's the one where the map is covered in stations, right?

10:36:57  <petern> Stations and vehicles.

10:37:00  <LordAro> how big is the map?

10:37:01  <petern> Not just stations.

10:37:09  <petern> There was another one which is just stations.

10:37:48  <EmperorJake> Wentbourne is 1024^2

10:37:50  <petern> 1024x1024

10:38:19  <EmperorJake> NetTrans is 1/4 the map size but probably a bit denser

10:39:07  <petern> Wentbourne is the save that led to road vehicle path caching.

10:39:32  <petern> There was a different save that led to ship path caching.

10:40:10  <petern> I wonder how the M2 performs that that removed... (it's not configurable, you'd have to rip it out, so I wouldn't bother trying...)

10:41:26  <petern> Can you run Linux on an M2 MacBook Air?

10:46:05  <JGR> Bouke: There's an incomplete/out of date list here: <https://github.com/JGRennison/OpenTTD-patches/blob/jgrpp/docs/jgrpp-low-level-changes.md>

10:48:04  <petern> `git merge remotes/jgrpp`

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10:51:44  <EmperorJake> petern: There's Asahi Linux designed for Apple Silicon, but I haven't tried it

10:52:13  <petern> https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/08/01/linus-torvalds-uses-m2-macbook-air-to-release-linux-519

10:52:20  <petern> Well...

10:57:24  <petern> I saw `GetDepotId` and assumed I was looking at OpenTTD code. Nope, it's work...

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11:11:29  <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1034786340472107028/IMG_6298.jpg

11:11:29  <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1034786340841209906/IMG_6297.jpg

11:11:29  <andythenorth> Retro graphviz

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11:21:12  <ag> Graphiz : Nope

11:21:21  <ag> Draftsmen: Yes

11:50:27  <andythenorth> Diagram for FIRS 6? ^^

12:01:09  <Eddi|zuHause> i've seen a retro photoshop

12:18:08  <petern> andythenorth: lunch?

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13:29:37  <andythenorth> Yup

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13:32:43  <petern> Too late I ate all the things

13:33:06  <petern> I think I should write-off pixel scalers as a bad idea 😄

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13:41:34  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 commented on discussion #10100: [macOS] Benchmarks wanted: does hardware acceleration improve performance? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/10100

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15:03:43  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on issue #9295: Music Audio is not normalized/leveled correctly https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/9295

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15:19:20  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] EmperorJake commented on discussion #10100: [macOS] Benchmarks wanted: does hardware acceleration improve performance? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/10100

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18:25:18  <pickpacket> when it comes to prob_map_gen and prob_in_game, what are common values for those?

18:29:02  <frosch> https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/IndustryDefaultProps#Appearance_Chances

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18:33:05  <pickpacket> frosch: thanks!

18:34:58  <pickpacket> I'm having some weird other issue with my teahouse. Both my tea tree farm and my tea factory use "substitute: INDUSTRYTYPE_TEMPERATE_FACTORY;", and when a new map is generated there are several of each AND several factories. My teahouse uses "substitute: INDUSTRYTYPE_TEMPERATE_BANK;" and after map generation there are plenty of teahouses but

18:34:58  <pickpacket> absolutely *no* banks

18:35:09  <pickpacket> maybe that has to do with probabilities too

18:35:43  <frosch> "substitute" does not remove the original industry

18:36:21  <pickpacket> I know :) It just looked like it did substitute Bank

18:36:34  <pickpacket> But actually Banks don't appear at map gen, apparently XD

18:36:38  <pickpacket> only later in the game

18:37:36  <pickpacket> the substitute thing is similar to inheritance though. Which is nice

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19:10:14  <pickpacket> I've defined icons for my cargoes, but where in the game do I find icons for cargoes?

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19:15:45  <Brickblock1> I stations fönstret

19:16:46  <pickpacket> this one?  https://lounge.warmedal.se/uploads/5c9266135c0289a4/image.png 

19:17:56  <pickpacket> Oh!!! Found it now!!

19:18:21  <pickpacket> https://lounge.warmedal.se/uploads/d3bd3eed59339c30/image.png 

19:18:24  <pickpacket> Wohooo!!

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19:35:33  <pickpacket> I never had this happen before:  https://lounge.warmedal.se/uploads/641dd4f4c14a98c1/image.png  It shows where a truck is taking tea leaves, but what did I do to make it show that?

19:36:13  <pickpacket> btw I think my NewGRF tea-tea-deluxe is finished :D 

19:47:35  <pickpacket> ah! Found it.

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19:58:18  <FLHerne> pickpacket: 'cargo flow legend' on the map menu

20:53:25  <petern> Omfg

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21:52:58  <andythenorth> Is it time for beer?

21:53:56  <petern> Could be, shall I?

21:54:40  <andythenorth> I am

21:55:21  <andythenorth> HEQS 2 then?

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22:54:48  <Eddi|zuHause> is it lunch?

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