IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2022-08-18
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01:47:45 <WoozyDragon4018> is this a bot in the irc channel posting github push notifications?
01:48:05 <WoozyDragon4018> or is it some user sending it in this format 😳
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03:28:47 <NEKOMASTER> no its jesus posting updates 🙂
03:28:53 <WoozyDragon4018> everyone is a bot in here so it's hard to recognize who's who 😅
04:04:22 <dwfreed> anything whose nick contains "DorpsGek" is a bot; there used to be a few of them
04:05:05 <dwfreed> I can see 4 of them, but only 2 are in this channel, and only DorpsGek speaks
04:28:21 <kamnet> NEKOMASTER: I'm surprised it go through - there's a petition to remove all the satellites from space because they're interfering with our prayers.
04:31:14 <kamnet> Satellites make the baby Jesus drop carrier.
05:41:35 <reldred> kamnet: that's just because they don't understand the truth, that satellites don't even exist and God just redirects all of your signals to the correct place if you have enough Faith.
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08:07:01 <peter1138> I mean, satellites and debris ARE a bad thing, but not for that reason...
08:10:23 <andythenorth> forum lolz "paired with home my M1 Max studio crushes through my workflow"...dude buys a minitower to turn the lights on and off
08:10:30 <andythenorth> I should stop reading this forum
08:11:01 <andythenorth> 'reading email' is *not* a workflow in any world I want to be in
08:45:28 <peter1138> My work flow is doomscrolling on Twitter.
08:46:46 <andythenorth> sometimes I don't Twitter for weeks
08:47:15 <peter1138> Hmm, I guess MP3 should be good enough for encoding vinyl recordings, apart from the irrational hate of MP3.
08:47:24 <andythenorth> currently my 'workflow' is
08:47:45 <andythenorth> these people who have 'workflows' for checking reddit and adjusting the heating in their house
08:47:53 <andythenorth> I wonder if they ever had a day of fun in their life?
08:48:09 <peter1138> My heating workflow is to walk over to the control and turn it.
08:48:25 <andythenorth> meh I got the quote wrong
08:48:26 <peter1138> Don't make me 'play' this game.
08:48:43 <andythenorth> also quoting Sheryl Crow is probably wrong anyway?
08:49:18 <peter1138> Also I had a work meeting at 8:40, after waking up at 8:35.
08:51:27 <peter1138> I was driving it but no time to prepare, so that went well.
08:52:57 <FLHerne> both my new solar panel and new giant battery are working, I should have enough power to play OTTD in the evenings now :D
08:53:39 <peter1138> At least the flacs are only half the size of the wavs.
08:53:40 <FLHerne> who schedules meetings for 08:40
08:54:31 <peter1138> Me because it fitted in with everyone who already had later meetings booked, and I'm normally up at 7-7:30.
08:55:05 <peter1138> Because I'm mad, my regular 6:30 alarm is on Saturday, so I can go out on the early harder bike ride :D
08:56:19 <FLHerne> that sounds a good way to make anyone on your team who isn't a morning person despise you passionately :p
08:56:41 <peter1138> They're all already in the office at that time.
08:56:58 <peter1138> It's just "lazy" me working from home all the time.
08:57:56 <peter1138> If I had such a person on the team then I would take that into account, I'm not a cunt.
08:58:45 <peter1138> LordAro, did you get a chance to clean your kit during that ride?
09:01:26 <LordAro> i did have 3 sets though
09:01:54 <LordAro> i could've washed them in the showers if i wanted, but i had concerns about getting it dried in time
09:02:10 <peter1138> That must've been bearable until the end of the 3rd set.
09:02:32 <LordAro> worst was the last night, where i was so wiped out i just slept in it
09:03:30 <peter1138> Last week I'd forgotten to wash my main kit, so I put it on a 15 minute wash, and tried to dry it. It would've dried out after a bit of riding but I didn't fancy the wet pad. So I wore an ancient pair of worn out shorts. Urgh.
09:03:33 <ChoHag> Of course they have fun, at the appropriate scheduled time and within accepted parameters.
09:03:53 <peter1138> I've ordered more decent kit now :-)
09:04:41 <peter1138> After 6+ years of proper cycling I've finally got some decent winter tights too.
09:05:24 <FLHerne> also, I do have a 'workflow' for adjusting the heating in my home
09:05:38 <FLHerne> but that's because it's a coal stove and those take forward planning ;-)
09:06:05 <FLHerne> otherwise it's still cold when you want it to be hot and then you fry an hour later
09:48:32 <LordAro> peter1138: what did you get?
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10:10:16 <peter1138> Extra Long Bib Tights from D2d cycling. Not once of the flashy brands, but actually designed for stupidly tall people.
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11:41:33 <JustANortherner> Can we ban people from channels when their contribution is useless three letter words, designed to annoy people please?
11:44:06 <peter1138> Of course there's also my favourite.
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12:15:59 <orudge> Interesting new way of users sending spam, "A visitor on the Microsoft Career Site noticed this job opportunity at Microsoft and thought you might be interested!"
12:16:29 <orudge> You'd think a company like Microsoft might makes such sites harder to abuse
12:17:43 <JustANortherner> Most Microsoft systems fill me with very little confidence when it comes to their security and whatnot
12:32:38 <peter1138> Nearly got my MTB back on the road, or trail I suppose.
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13:13:53 <andythenorth> did we ever consider increasing station catchment size?
13:13:57 <andythenorth> or making it configurable?
13:17:14 <andythenorth> also weird fencing rules are weird 😛
13:17:26 <andythenorth> I should make CHIPS draw fences on the stations or something
13:19:31 <JustANortherner> I completely agree about fencing rules being odd...
13:19:31 <JustANortherner> This is why I like some of the GRF track sets though. The fences aren't as... obvious and in your face, meaning this is would look less odd too
13:20:38 <andythenorth> FIRS magic fences also, but the stations do not 😛
13:20:45 <andythenorth> one day...new CHIPS
13:21:11 <JustANortherner> Does that become FRIES then?
13:24:09 <peter1138> What's weird about the fences?
13:25:10 <JustANortherner> Don't exist alongside stations, but do get influenced by them is one that I always find odd.
13:25:58 <andythenorth> track is fenced, stations are not
13:26:03 <andythenorth> industries are fenced, stations are not
13:26:12 <andythenorth> grf authors should do better
13:27:00 <andythenorth> these crappy gapped stations
13:27:14 <andythenorth> 4 separate stations for one industry
13:28:00 <JustANortherner> Also not a big fan of this personally. The fence should, IMO, run alongside the bridge too in this scenario... appreciate it would be somewhat difficult to implement that tho...
13:29:02 <JustANortherner> So essentially, Green would be new fence and red fence wouldn't exist
13:35:37 <andythenorth> wonder if grf stations could round robin for showing waiting cargo
13:35:57 <andythenorth> the gaps are just there because only one cargo can be shown on a station currently
13:37:33 <peter1138> Nice, the pump booster for tubeless worked. Won't need that again, maybe I should send it back?
13:38:30 <peter1138> Not difficult to implement, just specifically not implemented.
13:39:10 <peter1138> And red should exist because something else could be under that empty bridge tile.
13:39:24 <peter1138> You could buy the land, I think that does fences.
13:41:20 <JustANortherner> In this theoretical example, it'd be reversed on the other side as well, so the entire railway alignment would be surrounded by fences.
13:41:20 <JustANortherner> Like you say, something could exist under the bridge, which I imagine is why it hasn't been implemented, just looks weird to me...
13:42:23 <JustANortherner> It's likely very much a personal thing rather than anything that other people dislike
13:43:05 <EmperorJake> andythenorth: Yeah that's why I removed industry fences from XIS
13:43:17 <EmperorJake> especially when combining them with object tiles
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14:05:54 <andythenorth> I could do the ISR thing
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14:06:03 <andythenorth> and make a station tile for each type of cargo
14:06:20 <andythenorth> lot of cargos in FIRS 😛
14:32:14 <supermop_toil> doing stations?
14:41:17 <andythenorth> just complaining about them
14:43:24 <peter1138> Installing Stans sealant... hate this job.
14:49:14 <andythenorth> that's a BR Trains thing 😛
15:17:17 <peter1138> 22°C and cloudy, boo.
15:17:53 <peter1138> It's going-out-for-a-ride-in-an-hour-time.
15:25:01 <peter1138> I'm leading so I can't duck out.
15:25:09 <peter1138> Good job I'm really tired today for some reason.
15:28:32 <LordAro> sounds like a perfect opportunity to control the pace to your liking
15:31:45 <JustANortherner> peter1138: 19c and raining, yay!
15:39:58 <FLHerne> andythenorth: you don't have to leave gaps, just ctrl-click
15:40:59 <FLHerne> 4 separate stations is kind of needed for sane orders/non-deadlocking besides UI
15:41:02 <andythenorth> I could do that, but I am too incompetent, I forget which station is which
15:41:30 <andythenorth> I have abandoned cdist for freight, so one of the 3 reasons for separating stations no longer applies
15:41:43 <FLHerne> but if they're named clearly it's obvious when I've picked them wrong in the orders
15:41:43 <andythenorth> cdist: we were friends for a long time
15:41:54 <andythenorth> yeah I have the station signs turned off 😛
15:42:00 <andythenorth> I have no idea which station is which
15:42:36 <FLHerne> I turn them off, but usually it's obvious which is which by the trains loading or cargo waiting
15:42:49 <FLHerne> CHIPS having kind of all the waiting cargo graphics helps
15:43:24 <andythenorth> I think there needs to be a better way to do station cargo
15:43:28 <andythenorth> haven't figured it out yet
15:43:40 <FLHerne> and I do name them, so if I see "Hull Gravel Loading" in the orders of something that's not a gravel train it's wrong
15:43:41 <andythenorth> something like 'this tile shows #1 waiting cargo'
15:43:48 <andythenorth> 'this tile shows #2 waiting cargo'
15:43:56 <andythenorth> sounds awful, but could work
15:44:14 <FLHerne> whereas leaving them at the default "Hull South" or whatever makes it harder to pick up errors
15:45:37 <FLHerne> just saw the boats, I like boats
15:47:26 <andythenorth> encouragement is encouraging 🙂
15:47:32 <andythenorth> boats take 2-3 days draw per boat
15:47:35 <andythenorth> trains are 2 per day 😛
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15:55:17 <FLHerne> well, boats are bigger
15:55:26 <FLHerne> and I guess you have more practice drawing trains now
16:01:59 <andythenorth> oof I have to keep remembering to switch the port and starboard lights
16:02:04 <andythenorth> I did consider automating it 😛
16:02:27 <andythenorth> wouldn't be hard
16:07:37 <andythenorth> seems like hot tub weather?
16:35:49 <andythenorth> lol ffwd latch on save
16:36:37 <andythenorth> might be a niche case but I often ffwd to get a vehicle to show me the angle I've just painted
16:36:59 <andythenorth> then autosave happens, and the game is stuck on ffwd just at the wrong moment
17:26:41 <glx[d]> andythenorth: I think I already told you the key was just doing an xor (not the smartest idea)
17:31:12 <glx[d]> but it's also related to where it's handled in the code IIRC
17:34:18 <andythenorth> glx[d]: You did yes 🙂
18:11:33 <TrueBrain> glx[d]: These are the bugs! And yeah, I know, too lazy to fix :p
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18:35:00 <andythenorth> one more boat to paint before it's 'done' for now 😛
18:35:10 <andythenorth> keep getting asked for ferries but eh
18:35:19 <andythenorth> we don't have vehicles-in-vehicles so no ferries
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18:48:48 <LordAro> glx[d]: TrueBrain: idk, i think it works coming after the image, seems a bit more like a 'caption'
18:50:31 <FLHerne> andythenorth: we don't have vehicle manufacturing or vehicles-on-trains either, but you have sprites for both of those :p
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20:05:41 <peter1138> Hmm, need to trim these audio files, some go on for 2-3 minutes before I realised the record had stopped playing :D
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20:50:13 <glx> yes, but it's not showing on discord
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21:40:40 <nielsm> getting close to that #10000
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