IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2022-06-25
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07:27:01 <andythenorth> hmm that diff isn't what I'm expecting
07:28:00 * andythenorth wonders if src is blackened yet
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10:26:51 <Samu> i added breakdown simulation, but i think it's triggering too often, i must have done something wrong
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10:58:09 <Samu> squirrel has no concept of uint16, or uint32
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12:00:13 <andythenorth> 'git pish' doesn't work
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12:21:22 <Samu> just found out I can't really use table.rawset([item1, item2], value) and then use table.rawin([item1, item2]) to check if it's still there
12:22:54 <Samu> the array isn't processed as I would like
12:23:45 <Samu> is there anything I can do to make it work?
12:34:13 <Rubidium> because they are not the same array. It might work if you override the cmp delegate of array, though that might break other things
13:15:12 <andythenorth> newgrf wiki says
13:15:13 <andythenorth> "he ID for articulated vehicles must be below 8192."
13:15:34 <andythenorth> I thought it was 16635
13:16:59 * andythenorth looking elsewhere in wiki
13:17:54 <andythenorth> it's a 15 bit value
13:18:47 <andythenorth> hmm 13 bits for ID
13:20:16 <andythenorth> 8191 is max valid then?
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14:32:15 <Samu> now that I can simulate breakdowns, let's see which engine it picks for passengers
14:33:08 <Samu> it's no longer deterministic, i guess, since there's Random functions involved
14:33:23 <Samu> reliability has a degree of random
14:35:51 <Samu> I wish there was a AIEngine.GetLenght function
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15:16:52 <bkilm[m]> Did anyone consider adding weather into OpenTTD? Like high winds knocking down power lines of trams and trains or trees blocking roads? Roads becoming more dangerous when raining or foggy?
15:17:45 <bkilm[m]> Price of electricity, coal or water depending on season?
15:18:59 <FLHerne> I think it's been mentioned before
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15:19:16 <FLHerne> implementing it would be difficult, touches everything
15:19:31 <peter1138> It would come under disasters and everyone turns those off...
15:20:57 <FLHerne> a gamescript could probably emulate seasonal prices, although I think it would have to be in a way that users would find confusing
15:21:23 <FLHerne> the stock disasters are a bit stupid though
15:21:46 <FLHerne> I don't turn them off because I'm opposed to disasters in my game, but because I'm opposed to alien spacecraft
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17:12:41 <TrueBrain> too realistic for your taste?
17:30:28 <andythenorth_> such brackets: result.append(sorted(list(set([min(id_run), max(id_run)]))))
17:31:21 <TrueBrain> you get the min and max out of something, make it unique (?!), sort it (in case the min was higher than the max?!), and add that to a list ..
17:31:28 <TrueBrain> yeah, seems you have been drinking too much again andythenorth_ :P
17:31:53 <andythenorth_> the sort is required for some reason
17:31:56 <andythenorth_> set reverses values
17:33:06 <andythenorth_> feel free to improve :D
17:33:32 <TrueBrain> I was more thinking about not touching this, not even with a stick :P
17:33:42 <LordAro> doesn't that make a list of lists too?
17:33:47 <LordAro> of varying sizes (1 or 2)
17:34:37 <TrueBrain> reminds me that I tell too many times in a month that people should not use std::tuple if a struct is also a viable solution ..
17:34:49 <TrueBrain> so sick of reading .first and .second everywhere in the code, without having any clue what .first or .second is :P
17:34:58 <LordAro> if you didn't want that, i'd probably do: result.append(min(id_run)); if min(id_run) != max(id_run): result.append(max(id_run))
17:35:12 <LordAro> possibly with some more temporary variables
17:35:22 <TrueBrain> LordAro: he could also replace "append" with "extend", and keep the silly one-liner :P
17:35:45 <TrueBrain> but without knowing what "result" is meant to represent, it is guesswork :)
17:36:41 <TrueBrain> but yeah: min = min(id_run); max = max(id_run); result.append([min, max] if min != max: else [min])
17:36:50 <TrueBrain> would be a lot more readable in regards what that statement actually does
17:37:01 <TrueBrain> still a very confusing statement, but without context, who I am to judge
17:37:38 <TrueBrain> no clue how that slipped in there
17:37:43 <andythenorth_> I don't judge the judging :P
17:38:04 <TrueBrain> I should stop writing code on IRC :P
17:38:21 <TrueBrain> unbalanced lists are the best :)
17:38:28 <TrueBrain> they will not give you trouble down the road at all
17:45:09 <andythenorth_> I have rewritten all of it :P
17:45:20 <andythenorth_> due to the encouragement
17:49:56 <andythenorth_> I have written a compile that produces 3 grfs in one shot
17:50:07 <andythenorth_> [insert regrets of choice]
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19:20:21 * andythenorth_ wonders whether to delete grf translations
19:20:25 <andythenorth_> they're a chore
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19:31:22 <TrueBrain> I have some ideas how to do that for TrueGRF, which will be interesting .. but first, I need a vacation to implement stations ... :D
19:31:28 <TrueBrain> or a longer than 2 day weekend
19:37:05 <andythenorth_> 2 day work week
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19:44:48 <Wolf01> I would like a week made like 2 work days, midweek pause, 2 work days, weekend :P
19:52:39 <Samu> platform lenght, 3 tiles
19:56:15 <Samu> i now wish there was a more efficient way to compute all this data
19:56:42 <Samu> started in the year 5000, only in year 5004 it came with result
19:57:23 <TrueBrain> Wolf01: you can do that yourself; just work 32hours a week ;)
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20:20:52 <Samu> Iron Horse is not compatible with openttd inflation
20:36:44 <andythenorth_> makes your life easier :P
21:10:54 <Wolf01> <TrueBrain> Wolf01: you can do that yourself; just work 32hours a week ;) <- I doubt, I need a change to the job contract for that, and my boss already said no... but in future we might get some more flexibility on the working hours, still 8 each day, but we might reduce the lunch time and start earlier in the morning, so we will be able to finish like 1 hour early on the evening
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21:19:16 <TrueBrain> think outside the box ..... there are more jobs in the world than your current :P :P :P
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