IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2022-05-30
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02:24:23 <wallabra> [20:19:48] <andythenorth> but your FIRS is broken :P
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08:21:01 <andythenorth> why is alt unavailable as a hotkey?
08:21:07 <andythenorth> is it a platform limitation?
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09:07:01 <LordAro> andythenorth: basically, yes
09:07:16 <LordAro> can't (easily?) be consistent across platforms
09:10:21 <_dp_> it's kind of ok as a configurable though
09:10:33 <_dp_> I have alt in cmclient and it works fine afaict
09:11:43 <andythenorth> alt-click vehicles in depot :P
09:11:47 <andythenorth> to increment a counter
09:11:55 * andythenorth seriously considers patching ctrl-click
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09:30:38 <Eddi|zuHause> hiding features behind ctrl+click is problematic enough, we don't need another magic key
09:31:51 <Eddi|zuHause> new design rule: every feature that has a ctrl+click trigger needs a second (possibly more elaborate) trigger that doesn't use ctrl
09:32:53 <Eddi|zuHause> ctrl+click should be a shortcut
09:38:58 <andythenorth> this is a common rule in UIs
09:39:05 <andythenorth> people break it all the time
09:39:24 <andythenorth> macOS has so many hidden modifier key-combos with no equivalent single menu option
09:42:04 <andythenorth> we could have a ++ tool in depot :P
09:42:24 <andythenorth> and it goes into an 'increment trains' mode when selected
09:42:33 <andythenorth> then we could optionally bind that to scroll wheel
10:05:29 <_dp_> Eddi|zuHause, yeah, give them all alt-shift-doubleclick as a second trigger :p
10:32:53 <andythenorth> days elapsed since last incident of 'editing the generated output not the source': 0
10:33:12 <andythenorth> always the hardest bug to find in the code :P
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11:19:42 <andythenorth> I shall get on that now
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12:07:08 <peter1138> Gotta love working around IE11 issues.
12:26:57 <LordAro> are you getting suitably compensated for having to do so?
12:28:27 <peter1138> Well my employer pays me, so... I guess so.
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13:09:41 <Samu> i'm starting to have second thought on company takeover issue
13:09:54 <Samu> maybe it is right the way it is
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15:33:09 <andythenorth> I think peter1138 is the first person I've met who has to support older IE than me
16:01:28 <Samu> assert(counter.IsTopLevel());
16:02:12 <Samu> i was deleting a company
16:02:56 <Samu> gonna try reproduce in master
16:05:53 <Samu> strange, can't reproduce
16:08:59 <peter1138> andythenorth, is there an IE *newer* than 11?
16:09:57 <glx> edge, but it's no longer an IE
16:10:08 <andythenorth> you have 16 days left :P
16:10:36 <peter1138> Also, I'm now diagnosing a query that takes 0 seconds to run until I stick paging on it, whereupon it takes 5 seconds.
16:10:51 <peter1138> Edge generally just works as it's just Chrome :D
16:11:12 <andythenorth> we dropped IE 11 when O365 dropped it
16:11:24 <andythenorth> I've spent 16 years supporting outdated IE :P
16:12:24 <peter1138> Actually it takes double that, because T-SQL's paging support is terrible.
16:13:24 <peter1138> Maybe I will do the paging client-side. LOL.
16:13:37 <peter1138> (Well, server-side, but not SQL-side...)
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18:48:42 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
19:23:56 <andythenorth> uploading to S3 via a proper sftp/s3 client is so much faster than browser upload :P
19:29:25 <andythenorth> I guess 20 simultaneous connections are faster than (probably) 4
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19:32:05 <dwfreed> the browser probably isn't using the s3 API directly
19:32:32 <dwfreed> more likely you're just uploading the file to Amazon, which then does the s3 PUT on the backend side
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22:16:06 <Magnate> I need help on OpenTTD for iPad Air please
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