IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2020-10-27
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02:25:22 <Guest4407> Hello! Is it possible to change refresh rate of OpenTTD on Linux? I have 280hz monitor. I added display_hz = 280 to my config file, but nothing changed
02:41:58 <glx> display_hz is windows only
02:43:03 <glx> and it's for fullscreen mode only
02:43:29 <glx> everything else should use desktop refresh rate
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09:29:53 <Eddi|zuHause> well, my software engineering professor said, maintenance is 90% of the work, but everybody only wants to do the other 10%
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10:58:31 <TrueBrain> fuck you CSS .. FireFox inspect tool is lying
10:58:41 <TrueBrain> well, it is not, but fuck CSS :P
10:59:03 <longtomjr> I think that is a message we all can get behind
10:59:22 <TrueBrain> which is the worst :P
10:59:50 <TrueBrain> so I made 4 boxes with an height of 150px
10:59:53 <TrueBrain> they all have different heights :P
11:04:50 <TrueBrain> right .. now how to vertical align stuff .. hmm
11:05:22 <TrueBrain> table-cell to the rescue
11:07:37 <longtomjr> are you using grid?
11:07:57 <andythenorth> 'how to vertical align stuff'
11:07:59 <TrueBrain> that looks good enough
11:08:07 <andythenorth> that looks perfect
11:08:16 <andythenorth> one day these things will be simple
11:08:23 <TrueBrain> not sure how other galleries work, but what-ever :P
11:08:31 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: the day the Internet dies? :P
11:14:33 <TrueBrain> okay, even that looks nice
11:14:53 <TrueBrain> just "center" has different meanings for a h2 as for a caption .. which triggers my OCD
11:17:08 <TrueBrain> okay, that was easier than I expected :) happy now
11:18:26 <TrueBrain> people can just declare the width, and it will be fixed
11:18:57 <longtomjr> the captions under the images
11:23:30 <TrueBrain> guess either someone needs to go through the pages and set a width, or someone needs to find some CSS magic :D
11:23:41 <TrueBrain> it does look a lot better if the width of the image is winning
11:25:53 <TrueBrain> mediawiki inspects the image, and hardcodes the width .. I would like to avoid that :D
11:26:26 <longtomjr> I am sure there is a way to do this with CSS, but I might be wrong
11:28:41 <TrueBrain> sadly, "hope" is not a currency I can trade :)
11:29:29 <longtomjr> I were having a poke around and a look, but my power has been cut because of building this whole morning, so need to get some paying work done.
11:38:29 <longtomjr> not css, but it might work for this
11:40:08 <TrueBrain> I guess, but that requires some more changes :P
11:43:29 <longtomjr> `display: table-caption;` seems to do something as well
11:43:49 <longtomjr> Yep, but I were referencing the table-caption and other css properties
11:44:02 <TrueBrain> it is just another <figure> :)
11:44:12 <TrueBrain> when using <figure>, the rest follows
11:44:17 <TrueBrain> but that is a bit of a change :)
11:45:34 <longtomjr> adding the `display: table-caption;` to the .thumbcaption class changes it to not change the sizing anymore
11:46:02 <longtomjr> it is still not correct, but there might be a way to get it to play ball without having to change the markup
11:46:53 <TrueBrain> lol .. so that answer overcomplicated the situation; nice :P
11:47:32 <TrueBrain> well, that heavily improves the Signals page
11:48:34 <TrueBrain> the same as earlier :)
11:53:34 <TrueBrain> now to figure out where the vertical spacing comes from between caption and image
11:53:37 <TrueBrain> it is off by a few pixels
11:54:01 <TrueBrain> nothing is claiming the space ..
11:59:41 <TrueBrain> funny, FireFox renders the caption fine; Chrome fucks it up :P
12:01:46 <longtomjr> What about IE though
12:03:29 <TrueBrain> zero fucks were given
12:04:13 <TrueBrain> and now Chrome draws the border wrong
12:07:56 <TrueBrain> right, "fixed" it :P
12:35:36 <TrueBrain> okay, pushed all the changes to GitHub, w00p. Next job on the list ... copy the code from bananas-server to download and reload the GitHub "data" repository :) pam pam pammmmm
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14:07:11 <Eddi|zuHause> i've never understood the "junctionary"
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14:30:50 <andythenorth> this is my most advanced junction currently grf.farm/images/junctionary.png
14:31:24 <longtomjr> Hmm is that flyover needed?
14:32:17 <andythenorth> I often don't bother
14:32:25 <andythenorth> but flat crossings cause contention
14:32:57 <andythenorth> and a PBS signal gap has to be left, as long as longest train
14:33:20 <andythenorth> which means the track throughput is reduced even when flat crossing is not in use
14:33:49 <longtomjr> Yep, but that is fine untill traffic picks up
14:35:02 <longtomjr> I normally try to upgrade my lines organically, or use existing bridges / tunnels to avoid creating new grade seperated crossings
14:35:26 <andythenorth> mostly I do this until the route starts to block
14:37:03 <longtomjr> yep, I do similar stuff, I try to avoid the x-es though, since irl if there is space it is a lot easier to not have rails crossing
14:52:40 <andythenorth> so the commuter airport is really high throughput
14:52:45 <andythenorth> assuming only small planes are needed
14:55:22 <Timberwolf> andythenorth: Same here, realistic until it needs to not be realistic :)
14:58:12 <Timberwolf> Although the point at Wimbledon where the SWML goes from (up slow, up fast, down fast, down slow) to (up fast, down fast, up slow, down slow) I count as a real-world prototype for a typical OpenTTD junction.
14:58:44 <longtomjr> I mean once the traffic gets big enough, flyover and more complicated junctions start to be required irl as well
15:00:02 <Timberwolf> Yep, it's just rarer to have that volume (and usually irl we tolerate 1-2m wait for a signal across a flat junction)
15:00:26 <longtomjr> Also, ttd scale being a bit odd etc, lines tend to get a lot more traffic than you might expect
15:01:42 <longtomjr> I mostly build my lines to be ok with waiting, especially long trains that carry bulk cargo, so waiting at a passing loop is quite common
15:25:50 <FLHerne> I think Windmill Bridge is a better example
15:25:58 <FLHerne> Particularly after the upcoming rebuild
15:26:46 <longtomjr> oh wow that is cool
15:27:46 <FLHerne> (yes, those are multiple three-level bridges)
15:29:20 <FLHerne> It has a junction on a Y-shaped bridge above another junction on another Y-shaped bridge above a junction
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18:52:03 <DorpsGek_III> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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19:41:05 <supermop_Home> i should get back to drawing sprites or something
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22:51:09 <supermop_Home> tried to go early vote
22:53:46 <supermop_Home> line too long going to try again tomorrow
22:54:25 <FLHerne> Your voting system sucks
22:54:47 <supermop_Home> no way to change it other than by voting though
22:55:03 * FLHerne has never waited in a queue of more than three people to vote :p
22:55:09 <FLHerne> Well, three people and a dog
22:55:44 <supermop_Home> new York is always bizarrely difficult to vote in, moreso than most other states
22:55:46 <FLHerne> But dogs can't vote, so perhaps it doesn't count
22:56:18 <supermop_Home> this is the first time they even did early voting here (many other states have had it for years)
22:56:58 <supermop_Home> and they really just half-assed it. there seems to be like only one early voting location for all of lower manhattan
22:59:42 <FLHerne> tfw when you write a patch and then discover why the original author didn't do it that way
23:00:05 <FLHerne> Also, nml doesn't have enough tests :-(
23:05:47 <andythenorth> I wish I had automated tests
23:05:50 <andythenorth> so that some days
23:06:02 <andythenorth> and it would say "stay in bed, you don't work"
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