IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2020-03-21
            
00:03:12 <supermop_Home_> well this afternoon we got an email announcing a universal salary cut for the whole company
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00:32:31 <Wolf01> supermop_Home_ :(
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08:58:53 <andythenorth> ,o/
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09:25:06 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] andythenorth opened issue #36: Release 0.5.6 (or 0.6)? https://git.io/JvMjS
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12:11:12 <Samu> hi
12:11:26 <Samu> merge 8040 before 1.10?
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14:22:24 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] glx22 approved pull request #152: Add: screenshots from AlexTheDacian and ColdIce https://git.io/JvDke
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14:59:32 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] auge8472 merged pull request #152: Add: screenshots from AlexTheDacian and ColdIce https://git.io/JvMic
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15:22:59 <andythenorth> hmm
15:23:18 <andythenorth> nodejs wants my admin password
15:23:20 <andythenorth> I think not
15:28:41 <Wolf01> How is going there?
15:32:10 <andythenorth> there's no one word answer
15:32:41 <andythenorth> detected infection rate and total death rate remain very low but growing
15:32:52 <andythenorth> lots and lots of people are going to lose their jobs, almost immediately
15:33:13 <andythenorth> on the streets it's more like a snow day than panic
15:33:23 <andythenorth> but media stories are all about empty supermarkets
15:33:53 <andythenorth> I have just been to the mall, supermarket and garden centre, no shortages at all, no panic, just mostly quiet
15:34:11 <andythenorth> Wolf01: how is going there?
15:34:24 <LordAro> andythenorth: got lucky, supermarkets in York still struggling a bit
15:34:32 <LordAro> all pubs now closed, which is sad
15:35:10 <andythenorth> LordAro: for background info, the garden centre had a pallet of toilet rolls :P
15:35:19 <andythenorth> it hadn't sold out
15:36:10 <LordAro> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9pj44a56sjoc730/IMG_20200320_194151.jpg?dl=0 here's the photo i took yesterday evening
15:36:14 <andythenorth> I suspect it's quite contextual, Bristol has a fuckload of supermarkets and minmarts, and is also a huge food distribution hub due to Avonmouth and M4/M5
15:36:34 <andythenorth> oh yeah, Tesco looked like that last Sunday
15:36:39 <Wolf01> Cases and deaths still rising, authorities forbid more things like open space fitness and 200mt max of movement outside houses to bring the dogs outside
15:38:10 <andythenorth> LordAro: but last Sunday next to Tesco, this was What! (like a Poundland / Wilkos) https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9634/IMG_4816.JPG
15:38:20 <andythenorth> it had 5-10 more pallets of loo roll in the shop
15:38:27 <andythenorth> the 'shortages' are very myopic
15:38:41 <LordAro> of course
15:38:51 <LordAro> just supply problems, really
15:38:55 <andythenorth> and Tesco were giving out loo rolls from the warehouse
15:39:24 <andythenorth> they just couldn't restock fast enough, and tbh, they'd have a crowd control issue restocking the public loo roll shelves during shopping hours
15:39:41 <andythenorth> about 30% of the shopps in the mall were closed
15:40:07 <andythenorth> Wolf01: there is a message circulating on social media, allegedly from a Brit in northern Italy (if true)
15:40:18 <andythenorth> it says "Britain, calm the fuck down, Italy still has food and medicine"
15:40:38 <Wolf01> Yep, we do, no shortages
15:41:49 <andythenorth> people still renting dogs out?
15:41:51 <Wolf01> Maybe in some big city's warehouses there's shortage, but they should be continuously restocking
15:42:00 <andythenorth> I got my haircut yesterday, Italian barber
15:42:05 <andythenorth> said people in Italy are renting out dogs
15:42:10 <andythenorth> dogs doing 100km a day
15:42:16 <Wolf01> Yes, they do
15:42:42 <LordAro> renting out dogs? for what purpose?
15:42:54 <Wolf01> Being able to do a walk outside
15:43:09 <LordAro> ah right
15:43:21 <Wolf01> It's just a matter of days the authorities will ask the dog's documents too
15:43:25 <LordAro> but how do they get the dogs to them?
15:43:35 <andythenorth> drones!
15:43:38 <Wolf01> Usually the neighbours
15:46:04 <andythenorth> so I bought a new laptop, I wonder how much slower it will be
15:47:11 <andythenorth> oof a little bit
15:47:52 <andythenorth> @calc 100*(19/1100)
15:47:52 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: 1.72727272727
15:47:59 <andythenorth> 1.7% slower :P
15:50:16 <Wolf01> Meh, yesterday 10k people charged for breaking the bans
15:51:20 <andythenorth> how much is the fine?
15:51:21 <Wolf01> I'm starting to think that the urge of going outside is an affect of the virus, to spread it, like the zombie fungus on insects or other parasytes
15:51:28 <andythenorth> well
15:51:29 <andythenorth> maybe
15:51:39 <andythenorth> or we're all just more introverted than average
15:52:34 <Wolf01> I for sure
15:58:03 <Wolf01> https://9gag.com/gag/aBgeW4A
16:00:05 <Wolf01> I'm going to hunt some food
16:00:51 <Wolf01> Like... getting the biscuit pack at my left
16:07:40 <andythenorth> I have stockpiled cookies
16:07:47 <andythenorth> but then again
16:07:51 <andythenorth> every week I stockpile cookies
16:08:28 <Wolf01> I need to get more, this is the last pack
16:08:48 <Wolf01> Also, I don't have ginger ale
16:11:03 <Wolf01> Let's see if people in my house what some tea
16:14:40 <frosch123> trading tea for ginger ale?
16:15:43 <Wolf01> No, drinking tea to forget ginger ale
16:17:55 <andythenorth> hmm does Github commits view show tags?
16:18:06 <andythenorth> Bitbucket has that feature, can't see it in GH
16:24:35 <frosch123> https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/commits/1.3.3 <- you can select the tag at the top, but making a tag is no commit in git
16:26:06 <andythenorth> Bitbucket shows commits that are the rev for a tag, it's a hover-over thing
16:26:12 <andythenorth> might only be annotated tags, not sure
16:26:35 <andythenorth> but eh, it's no big deal :)
16:26:40 <andythenorth> website release? o_O
16:26:50 <andythenorth> or do we want to also do a blog post?
16:28:45 <frosch123> did someone already figure out the red lines?
16:40:30 <andythenorth> red lines?
16:40:46 <andythenorth> oof I have to set this new computer up, BIAB
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17:15:02 <Katje> Hi
17:15:14 <Katje> I'm trying to understand the cargoflow screen
17:15:44 <Katje> if it says "saturated" does that mean the I've too many vehicles on that route, or too much cargo for the number of vehicles?
17:21:04 <Wolf01> Trying to get ginger ale on amazon is depressing, 54€+18€ for 24 bottles, I paid 32€+4€ last time
17:29:06 <Samu> can't make my AI profitable enough :( hope someone takes the challenge https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=86810
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18:10:38 <Samu> woah, 1 month ago there was only 4 infected in italy
18:11:19 <Samu> 1 month later, it's like 20k+
18:11:34 <Samu> oh, 40k
18:14:07 <Samu> https://youtu.be/F33Z7FH-_u8?t=205 portugal made it to the top 20... :(
18:14:54 <Samu> i swear if spain has that many, portugal will have much more than it shows yet
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18:34:34 <rotterdxm> italy has the most deaths as well
18:34:37 <rotterdxm> over 4k
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18:43:12 <andythenorth> ouch
18:43:19 <andythenorth> Thunderbolt 3 is rubbish
18:43:58 <andythenorth> over 1.5 hours to copy just 580GB
18:45:09 <andythenorth> should be more like 2 mins
18:46:54 <Samu> :)
18:47:04 <Samu> andythenorth, make an AI plz
18:47:14 <Samu> that uses your vehicle sets
18:53:35 <andythenorth> oof this keyboard is weird
18:53:56 <andythenorth> it doesn't feel or sound like typing on solid wood
19:01:41 <frosch123> why did you get a new one? just to compensate that you did not get any toilet paper?
19:05:01 <andythenorth> partly to get a real keyboard etc
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19:05:13 <andythenorth> and partly because we need a spare for work, the supply chain is closing
19:05:52 <andythenorth> this one is huge, has a weird functioning keyboard
19:05:54 <andythenorth> and is slower
19:06:50 <andythenorth> also nothing works because Apple 'upgraded' security
19:07:52 <andythenorth> oh and nothing works because the shell is now zsh
19:07:53 <andythenorth> lolz
19:10:49 <frosch123> fish would suit you :)
19:14:16 * andythenorth does the 'make a mac work' dance
19:14:20 <andythenorth> thank goodness for stack overflow
19:17:15 * andythenorth wonders how much slower nml is on this
19:17:30 <andythenorth> 2.3Ghz i9 vs 2.8Ghz i7 on the old one
19:28:40 <andythenorth> let's see how broken openttd is
19:29:03 <andythenorth> all of the python grf tools and grfcodec are 'broken'
19:43:56 <andythenorth> ok openttd is broken
19:44:13 <andythenorth> I love the modern mac experience, it's like nothing works ever
19:44:29 <Samu> why buy apple then
19:45:23 <andythenorth> these are the questions
19:45:26 <andythenorth> I am captured
19:45:33 <andythenorth> stockholm syndrome
19:45:49 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/JvDYe
19:45:49 <DorpsGek_III_> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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19:49:35 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] andythenorth commented on issue #7623: Support for macOS Catalina. https://git.io/fj2uh
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20:05:14 <andythenorth> omg I have an actual escape key
20:05:20 <andythenorth> I can press it and everything
20:11:03 <Wolf01> Pfff I had to fix a little bug in one of our softwares
20:21:09 <andythenorth> did you go into the office?
20:21:16 <Wolf01> Yes
20:21:51 <Wolf01> Luckily I left my pc running ;)
20:22:12 <Wolf01> I was about to shut it down yesterday
20:23:38 <andythenorth> oh OpenTTD compiled
20:23:39 <andythenorth> and ran
20:23:42 <andythenorth> let's see how slow it is
20:24:54 <andythenorth> lol 0.7x game speed
20:24:55 <andythenorth> ok
20:25:32 <andythenorth> worse than the old laptop
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21:08:31 <glx> andythenorth: you commented about both beta, but not tested RC ?
21:08:52 <andythenorth> I don't have it
21:08:59 <andythenorth> but I would be shocked if it didn't work
21:22:43 <andythenorth> hmm need my git tab completion back :P
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21:35:57 <andythenorth> glx thanks for approving website PR, feel like making a tag? o_O
21:37:15 <glx> I probably can :)
21:38:51 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] glx22 created new tag: 1.3.4 https://git.io/JvDOg
21:39:09 <glx> I think I did it
21:39:24 <andythenorth> :D
21:39:35 <andythenorth> can't remember if it auto-publishes
21:39:37 <andythenorth> might do
21:40:23 <frosch123> it's written in the readme
21:40:31 <frosch123> master is already published to https://www.staging.openttd.org/screenshots.html
21:41:07 <andythenorth> hurrah
21:42:55 <andythenorth> eh openttd compile is about 1m 10s now
21:43:18 <andythenorth> -j 26
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22:31:15 <TrueBrain> what the hell did andy use to make those thumbnails? Fuck, they are ugly :P
22:33:09 <Guest19944> crude resize in photoshop
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22:33:36 <TrueBrain> seriously, someone should remake those thumbs :)
22:33:51 <andythenorth> I considered if we could automate
22:33:53 <andythenorth> but eh
22:34:03 <andythenorth> the older ones aren't even the right aspec ratio
22:34:11 <TrueBrain> but at least they look pretty
22:34:15 <Wolf01> Seriously, with NRT it looks totally a different game
22:34:17 <TrueBrain> these look pixelated :P
22:35:29 <TrueBrain> https://www.staging.openttd.org/screenshots/1.3-03-opengfx-1920x1200_thumb.png vs https://www.staging.openttd.org/screenshots/1.9-darkuk-2_thumb.png
22:35:34 <TrueBrain> the difference is staggering :D
22:35:54 <TrueBrain> like it did rescaling by keeping the brightest color
22:36:03 <TrueBrain> I did not know there were application that did rescaling this crappy
22:36:19 <glx> some textures are not resize friendly
22:36:25 <TrueBrain> (not blaming you as such andythenorth ; I am seriously surprised it an application allows to make such crappy thumbs :P)
22:36:37 <TrueBrain> glx: this has nothing to do with the original tbh :)
22:36:53 <TrueBrain> it looks like it did not blur to rescale, but just picked a random pixel from the resize
22:37:30 <andythenorth> tbh I did a slackjaw job on them
22:37:41 <TrueBrain> glx: to proof my point: https://www.staging.openttd.org/screenshots/1.0-20100509_cw_gardenart_thumb.png
22:37:49 <andythenorth> I was grumpy because a simple task turned into 'rebuild jekyl environment from scratch'
22:38:02 <andythenorth> and hack the site to get to jekyl to serve locally
22:38:05 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: you keep having that issue, it seems :D
22:38:07 <andythenorth> I should have done better
22:38:18 <TrueBrain> ussseee the doocckkkkeeerrrr
22:38:23 <TrueBrain> but no, you cannot be blamed for applications being crap
22:38:46 <andythenorth> I have no argument against that
22:38:55 <andythenorth> fuck my irc client doesn't work any more
22:39:04 <andythenorth> doesn't scroll with new messages
22:39:14 <glx> another catalina issue ?
22:39:20 <andythenorth> yup
22:39:32 <dwfreed> you are running an outdated version of catalina
22:39:36 <andythenorth> colloquy is an ancient unmaintained irc client
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22:39:54 <dwfreed> that too
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22:43:43 <andythenorth> TrueBrain oooops
22:43:52 <andythenorth> I did the resize with 'nearest neighbour' on
22:43:58 <TrueBrain> ah
22:44:01 <andythenorth> which is the usual for pixel art, but not screenshots eh
22:44:02 <TrueBrain> that explains a lot :D
22:44:07 <andythenorth> I'll fix them
22:44:18 <TrueBrain> you are the best :D
22:44:32 <andythenorth> can I reuse same PR? :P
22:44:43 <glx> no it's merged
22:45:19 <LordAro> you can reuse the same branch
22:45:22 <andythenorth> ok
22:45:26 <LordAro> no difference from your end
22:45:32 <LordAro> probably need to rebase it
22:51:11 <andythenorth> can I rebase -i on the previous commit?
22:51:40 <LordAro> HEAD
22:51:51 <LordAro> HEAD~1 *
22:52:08 <andythenorth> I mean can I just fix the images, squash the commits and force push?
22:52:35 <TrueBrain> no you silly :)
22:52:41 <TrueBrain> it is already running in production
22:52:44 <TrueBrain> you cannot change history :P
22:52:54 <TrueBrain> it has to be a new commit
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22:55:28 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] andythenorth opened pull request #153: Fix: fix pixelated screenshot thumbs https://git.io/JvD3N
22:55:37 <andythenorth> this irc client is horrible
22:55:40 <LordAro> fix fix
22:55:40 * andythenorth must try more
22:56:00 <andythenorth> oh silly andythenorth
22:57:33 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] andythenorth updated pull request #153: Fix: pixelated screenshot thumbs https://git.io/JvD3N
22:59:20 <andythenorth> this weird giant laptop is weird
23:04:38 <andythenorth> also bedtime
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23:05:34 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain approved pull request #153: Fix: pixelated screenshot thumbs https://git.io/JvDsk
23:06:43 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain merged pull request #153: Fix: pixelated screenshot thumbs https://git.io/JvD3N
23:13:56 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain commented on pull request #153: Fix: pixelated screenshot thumbs https://git.io/JvDsY
23:15:46 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] glx22 commented on pull request #153: Fix: pixelated screenshot thumbs https://git.io/JvDsZ
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23:36:45 <nielsm> lots of entries for the title screen ticking in now
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