IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2020-03-10
            
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00:24:38 <Eddi|zuHause> you mean the popup that says "saved a screenshot"?
00:28:59 <LordAro> Eddi|zuHause: i mean the window listing the screenshot types
00:29:17 <LordAro> it's new
00:29:27 <LordAro> look at the screenshot samu posted :p
00:29:34 <Eddi|zuHause> haven't seen that before
00:29:40 <Eddi|zuHause> and no, i won't
00:31:00 <LordAro> the fact that half the (active) people in this channel have actively /ignored one of the more active members of this channel is getting irritating
00:31:07 <LordAro> frankly it's more irritating than samu
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06:09:24 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] joestringer closed pull request #7954: Feature: Add news notifications for significantly delayed trains https://git.io/JvL0g
06:09:24 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] joestringer commented on pull request #7954: Feature: Add news notifications for significantly delayed trains https://git.io/Jvohd
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08:08:03 <TrueBrain> LordAro: yeah, that window should be hidden :D
08:08:12 <TrueBrain> That looks way silly
08:08:29 <TrueBrain> In before release?
08:08:34 <TrueBrain> :D
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09:58:01 <Samu> holy crap, I am incredule
09:58:21 <Samu> the ai can turn a profit with Sampson U52 with infrastructure maintenance costs!
09:58:39 <Samu> I always thought it wasn't possible
10:01:04 <Samu> incredulous*
10:04:23 <Samu> let me turn breakdowns on, see if it can still survive
10:06:27 <Samu> awww it's tough, barelly profitable
10:08:04 <Samu> very rought initial 5 years
10:08:09 <Samu> rough
10:09:11 <Samu> bankrupted t.t
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14:53:53 <Samu> rehi
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16:21:21 <Samu> i'm managing to have the ai survive with Sampson U52s + low infrastructure maintenance costs + reduced breakdown
16:21:37 <Samu> it can't get much better than this, I suppose
16:28:44 <Samu> AI with "shorter routes first" struggle too much, but then again, that's the easy preset
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16:40:03 <Samu> alright, my AI is ready for 1.10
16:40:11 <Samu> now just have to wait
16:40:19 <Samu> before releasing the new version
16:40:39 <Samu> it will require API from 1.10, a jump from 1.4
16:53:01 <Eddi|zuHause> no matter how large the minimum number of trains for a gridlock is, it WILL happen...
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17:26:33 <Samu> oww.. helicopters are out, ruining profits t.t
17:26:37 <Samu> must fix
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17:47:29 <Samu> arf, using large airports for helicopters :(
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19:20:33 <Samu> what year helidepot turns available?
19:21:27 <Samu> 1976
19:21:31 <nielsm> https://wiki.openttd.org/Airports#Helicopter_airports
19:21:49 <Samu> thx
19:23:28 <Samu> ok, its 1964, waiting now for 1976, zzz
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19:26:11 <andythenorth> yo
19:26:16 <Wolf01> oy
19:26:34 <Wolf01> Ok, vpn for remote access works fine for me
19:26:37 <andythenorth> super
19:27:30 <Wolf01> Boss sent the instructions to work mail and the link to download the vpn client to personal mail
19:27:47 <Wolf01> I remembered the settings ^_^
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19:30:22 <Wolf01> BTW I'll go to the office until we all get quarantined
19:30:48 <Samu> coronavirus ?
19:30:52 * andythenorth awaits UK reaching same state
19:31:04 <Wolf01> <Samu> coronavirus ? <- nope, troyan horses
19:31:08 <Wolf01> *trojan
19:31:43 <Samu> today they're telling everyone to wash their hands :(
19:32:12 <Wolf01> Pfff, wait until they ask you to keep 1.5m between people
19:32:13 <andythenorth> Wolf01: estimate is that UK is ~2 weeks behind Italy
19:32:28 <andythenorth> so lockdown end of March
19:32:33 <Samu> some ladies came from italy infected
19:33:03 <Samu> virus is in the next ~20 km away city
19:33:26 <nielsm> denmark more than doubled in identified cases today, 90 yesterday evening, 262 a few hours ago
19:34:18 <andythenorth> strong chance I'll catch it, wife is a doctor
19:34:25 <andythenorth> we usually catch things
19:34:46 <Wolf01> We are expecting this problem ending on june, in Italy
19:36:02 <andythenorth> China seems to have nailed it down
19:36:07 <andythenorth> or is faking the stats
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19:47:10 <LordAro> andythenorth: China has the advantage of not caring too much about their (individual) citizen's welfare
19:47:24 <LordAro> citizens'*
19:47:48 <andythenorth> it will be interesting how far democracies will go
20:11:35 <Wolf01> Democracies?
20:12:05 <Wolf01> Last time I checked here it war oligarchy
20:12:09 <Wolf01> *was
20:12:56 <andythenorth> oh yes that too
20:13:11 <andythenorth> Britain is pretty much a democracy
20:14:58 <Wolf01> Here some months ago a party popped out from nothing (yes the void) and they are acting like somebody elected them
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20:55:06 <Etua> Hello, I can't find openttd.cfg on my server. Where is it?
20:55:47 <Etua> I checked in "~/.openttd" or "~/.config/openttd/openttd.cfg"
20:55:52 <nielsm> ~/.openttd/openttd.cfg if you aren't specifying anything else
20:56:35 <Etua> I actually run it through dtach. Can it mess things up in terms of configuration?
20:59:00 <glx> first run ?
21:00:02 <glx> it's written on exit
21:00:38 <frosch123> the path is printed to console if you run it with "-d misc=3"
21:00:39 <nielsm> if you want to be sure then use the -c commandline parameter to specify the cfg file
21:00:51 <glx> but usually for servers people use - c yes
21:01:45 <Etua> Can I get this parameter through OpenTTD console or should I restart it?
21:02:05 <nielsm> the misc=3 debuglevel prints it once on starts
21:02:14 <nielsm> once on startup and never again
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21:04:21 <Etua> Thank you. I'll be back soon.
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21:29:56 <Samu> oh noes... peter1138 :(( GetBuildWithRefitCapacity is cpu intensive
21:30:49 <Samu> was getting an average of 60 ms when i was normally on 10 ms
21:31:26 <Samu> looks like I need to use some kind of cache
21:34:00 <Samu> can't spam use it
21:42:16 <glx> well it needs to build and delete a vehicle to get the cost
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21:53:18 <glx> but you need to call it only once per engine
21:53:31 <glx> refit capacity won't change
21:54:09 <Samu> i solved the problem, now i use some kind of cache to retrieve capacities
21:54:22 <Samu> yes, it calls it once
21:54:31 <Samu> puts the value in a list
21:54:53 <Samu> if i need it again, i get the value i just stored in the list
21:55:34 <Samu> looks like I have to do the same for road vehicles
21:56:29 <_dp_> Samu, and get rekt by inflation :p
21:56:48 <glx> it's about capacity, not cost
21:56:59 <Samu> how can i make this "cache list" available for both aircraft and road vehs, considering the mess of a code i have
21:57:29 <glx> use engineID as key
21:57:59 <_dp_> though it's quite annoying that the only way to get anything about the vehicle is to create it
21:58:44 <glx> well refit capacity is not easily accessible without build&refit first
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