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08:06:12 <andythenorth> LordAro: 2TallTyler has offered to run 1.10 title contest, I've provisionally said voting should close end of Saturday 28th March, leaving Sunday 29th to add the game to 1.10.0 release Do those dates work?
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10:46:16 <andythenorth> LordAro :) http://webster.openttdcoop.org/?channel=openttd&date=1583884800#1583910372
10:47:32 <LordAro> andythenorth: i saw, i was waiting for you to reappear :p
10:47:34 <LordAro> seems good
10:47:40 <andythenorth> date works?
10:47:56 <LordAro> 2 weeks is a little short, but not anything we can do about that now
10:48:09 <LordAro> go for it
10:49:27 <andythenorth> cool
11:03:49 * peter1138 ponders switching to a bouncer.
11:04:21 <Eddi|zuHause> what's this? 2003?
11:04:34 <peter1138> :/
11:04:45 <peter1138> Or I could just fire up a client when I want to connect to IRC.
11:05:00 <LordAro> dirty
11:05:16 <peter1138> I'm using irssi still, so yeah, still 2003 ;)
11:05:57 * LordAro uses znc & irssi
11:06:11 <LordAro> for extra redundancy
11:06:27 <LordAro> though they're both running on the same server
11:06:30 <LordAro> but shhh
11:06:40 <peter1138> weechat?
11:07:04 <Eddi|zuHause> what's this matrix thing i've been hearing about?
11:07:09 <peter1138> Ew.
11:08:12 <LordAro> pretty sure that's what TB uses now
11:09:25 <peter1138> Anyway, I guess 10am on a working day is not the time to fiddle :p
11:09:44 <andythenorth> sounds ideal
11:09:53 <andythenorth> am I going in the office?
11:10:13 <Eddi|zuHause> might there be corona in the office?
11:10:39 <andythenorth> if I've got it, there will be soon
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11:17:15 <peter1138> I cycled in, obviously.
11:17:26 <peter1138> And I have my salad for lunch, obviously.
11:17:51 <peter1138> And I just ate a rocky road bite (because it's somebody's birthday), obviously.
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11:18:29 <peter1138> It was too much for him.
11:19:24 <milek7> huh, schools closed
11:19:32 <milek7> extra holiday
11:20:28 <peter1138> Study from home...
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13:56:31 <Samu> hi
14:28:51 <Samu> im scared of testing inflation
14:28:55 <Samu> but here goes...
14:32:27 <Samu> noes, it's just too much, can't see it surviving
14:35:27 <Samu> the struggle is real
14:38:09 <Samu> bankrupted after 20 years
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15:10:00 <Eddi|zuHause> so... i clicked "install proton 5.0" in steam, but lutris doesn't seem to pick up on it being installed, it only lists 4.11
15:38:25 <Samu> inflation lasts 190 years?
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15:43:59 <Samu> 170?
15:44:09 <Samu> need to find out
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15:55:02 <Samu> by the way
15:55:16 <Samu> why not let scenario editor load .sav files
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18:15:19 <Samu> oh no, my ai won't survive 170 years of inflation
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19:12:56 <Eddi|zuHause> how do i even find out which game in steam uses proton?
19:15:22 <milek7> all without native build?
19:17:17 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, but i don't find that information in the library... only in the shop
19:18:18 <Eddi|zuHause> in the old library it used to say a line like "this game runs using steam play", but in the new one it seems completely hidden
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21:21:58 <TrueBrain> eat work sleep repeat, eat work sleep repeat,wait, what?
21:25:04 <andythenorth> repeat
21:25:42 <TrueBrain> nah, once was enough
21:26:03 <TrueBrain> I just really want to finish the first version of the new BaNaNaS before the end of the month :P
21:26:07 <TrueBrain> must ... finish ....
21:29:30 <andythenorth> completionist
21:29:38 <TrueBrain> yeah, I am the worst :P
21:30:06 <frosch123> i only know "eat rave sleep repeat"
21:30:18 <TrueBrain> your boss wouldn't like that :P
21:31:39 <Samu> https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html - woah, europe looks scary
21:32:07 <Samu> and i was thinking it was an italy thing
21:32:17 <TrueBrain> it is a "world thingy"
21:32:30 <TrueBrain> just because some countries, I am looking at you USA, doesn't test people, doesn't mean it doesn't exist
21:32:31 <frosch123> also, i wondered when work would order people to work from home because of virus... but guess what, they found a ww2 bomb 150m from work, so we have to work from home because the area will be blocked
21:32:43 <TrueBrain> frosch123: LOL!
21:32:46 <TrueBrain> does it have corona? :P
21:33:40 <Samu> spain: 2231, and portugal only 59?
21:33:57 <TrueBrain> it is weird like that .. like ... there are more people in spain .. dunno
21:34:00 <TrueBrain> my math is not that good
21:34:34 <Samu> anyways, things got serious over here
21:34:46 <Samu> numbers for portugal will
21:34:51 <Samu> fast
21:34:51 <frosch123> it's easier for large countries with less dense population
21:35:09 <Samu> and considering spain has that many, i fear the worst
21:36:10 <frosch123> china has a infection rate of like 0.00006, europe is way ahead of that
21:36:35 <milek7> testing rates differ by country
21:37:17 <TrueBrain> for example, it was found out that over here you cannot get yourself tested if you have not been to a risk-area :P
21:37:21 <frosch123> move to greenland, you are probably safe there
21:37:34 <TrueBrain> well, don't move now, you will take it with you :P
21:37:48 <frosch123> TrueBrain: yes, you need to have at least some symptoms. otherwise there is not enough test equipment
21:37:59 <andythenorth> it seems
21:38:00 <andythenorth> that
21:38:11 <TrueBrain> even with all the symptoms, if you haven't been in that region, they just consider it is most likely a common flu
21:38:15 <TrueBrain> and I am not disagreeing :)
21:38:17 <andythenorth> today lots of people are catching up with the panicking I did weeks ago
21:38:24 <TrueBrain> but it makes these numbers a bit ... useless :P
21:38:49 <TrueBrain> (numbers between countries)
21:38:53 <frosch123> andythenorth: never run with panicing people
21:38:58 <andythenorth> there is a medium post going round called something like 'why policy makers must act or people will die'
21:39:02 <andythenorth> which is going round UK
21:39:10 <frosch123> also do not run against them, 90° is probably best
21:40:08 <andythenorth> whatever the post says or prescribes, people are going to die
21:40:16 <andythenorth> and the dude is a professional blogger
21:40:21 <andythenorth> not an epidemilogist
21:40:38 <andythenorth> epidemiologist *
21:40:51 <andythenorth> funny how charts look official though
21:42:03 <andythenorth> still
21:42:12 <frosch123> Samu: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Fallzahlen.html <- there are huge regional differences, also here
21:42:24 <andythenorth> people in the uk being interviewed saying 'it's all a myth isn't it'
21:42:48 <andythenorth> frosch123: are they differences in infection, or differences in reporting and testing
21:42:57 <andythenorth> obvs you won't know :)
21:43:22 <TrueBrain> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ES07spXWAAEGjO_.jpg <- they put this all over our office today (some collegas)
21:43:25 <TrueBrain> I thought it was funny :)
21:44:07 <frosch123> andythenorth: i think there is a strong correlation between rural/urban and low/high rates
21:44:23 <andythenorth> TrueBrain: is it the shapes that amuse you?
21:44:36 <TrueBrain> no, just the vibe: WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE, lets just even out when we die, k?
21:44:56 * andythenorth assumed some sort of gutter reaction to the curves
21:45:10 <frosch123> TrueBrain: don't worry. math knows: if you do nothing it will stop at 70% infection
21:45:13 <andythenorth> it's actually the most useful chart for general comms though
21:45:47 <andythenorth> we have healthcare, in many cases healthcare can keep you alive
21:45:51 <TrueBrain> the chart works very well against the debata: LETS GET IT OVER WITH
21:46:04 <andythenorth> healthcare is the rate limiting step
21:46:13 <andythenorth> no ventilator you die
21:46:20 <andythenorth> with ventilator you might not die
21:47:02 <andythenorth> anyway, we all had it in Jan-Feb anyway
21:47:07 <andythenorth> just wasn't tested :P
21:47:20 <TrueBrain> I refer you to the chart; please don't be "that guy" :P
21:47:23 * andythenorth has NFI if that's true, but we all had *something* that wasn't flu or normal rhinovirus chart
21:47:25 <TrueBrain> (in case you are wrong :P)
21:49:17 <andythenorth> so...bananas
21:52:19 <frosch123> ... is done in 3 weeks
21:52:33 <TrueBrain> not done; first version .. a "beta"
21:52:43 <TrueBrain> 2 weeks after that to production
21:53:12 <frosch123> that's too late
21:53:21 <TrueBrain> 31th of April, last mail said
21:53:25 <TrueBrain> 30th
21:53:26 <TrueBrain> oops
21:53:29 <frosch123> no, 4th/5th
21:53:44 <frosch123> no, 6th/7th
21:54:13 <frosch123> the service is retired end of april, but our yearly contract ends 6th/7th
21:54:21 <TrueBrain> exactly :)
21:54:22 <frosch123> i doubt we can extend for 20 days
21:54:26 <TrueBrain> we should be able
21:55:16 <andythenorth> it could just....go offline for a bit? :)
21:55:19 <andythenorth> maybe not
21:55:40 <TrueBrain> frosch123: I will check with orudge if that is possible :) As it seems we need that time to finish this up
21:56:03 <TrueBrain> the alternative is that we put BaNaNaS in read-only for how-ever long it takes us to finish this up :)
21:56:08 <TrueBrain> the read-part is done
21:59:00 <frosch123> oh, if that is an option.. it's not the first time bananas is broken for a week
21:59:11 <TrueBrain> exactly
21:59:31 <TrueBrain> anyway, I expect that this weekend I finish up a Docker version of the API and ingame-server
21:59:38 <TrueBrain> after that I will switch to infra
21:59:56 <TrueBrain> means we mainly have to fix authentication
22:03:40 <Heiki> how about a coronavirus NewGRF (get money for quickly transporting the virus to as many towns as possible, get even more money for transporting face masks and hand rubs and whatever to possibly infected towns)?
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22:08:14 <andythenorth> oof
22:08:28 <andythenorth> we need mutating cargos
22:10:29 <TrueBrain> NINJA TURTLES!
22:13:02 <andythenorth> cargo starts out as human, arrives as infected human
22:13:16 <andythenorth> cargo starts out as fish, arrives as that scandinavian stuff
22:13:29 <andythenorth> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surstr%C3%B6mming
22:13:48 <andythenorth> that gives a new dimension to 'cargo aging'
22:13:49 <andythenorth> :P
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22:15:56 <TrueBrain> okay, without writing files, my API can now create a new version in an existing package :D w00p
22:17:54 <andythenorth> \o/
22:20:52 <TrueBrain> "Description is not yet set for this package; although not mandatory, highly advisable.",
22:24:23 <TrueBrain> and uploading new packages work :D Nice :)
22:24:42 <TrueBrain> "upload-date": "2020-03-11T22:23:41.503232", <- that is odly specific
22:25:27 <milek7> is that wrong?
22:25:52 <milek7> at least it's unique
22:26:10 <frosch123> can you use it do reconstruct private keys?
22:26:39 <TrueBrain> "upload-date": "2020-03-11T21:26:28.206644+00:00",
22:26:41 <TrueBrain> a tiny bit better
22:27:56 <TrueBrain> "upload-date": "2020-03-11T21:27:42+00:00",
22:27:58 <TrueBrain> perfect :D
22:28:05 <TrueBrain> upload_date = datetime.now(tz=timezone.utc).isoformat(timespec="seconds")
22:28:08 <TrueBrain> things are never easy :)
22:31:12 <Samu> I really don't understand classes / constructors, and that...
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22:45:43 <Samu> maybe one day I'll try to understand them
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