IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2020-03-09
            
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09:11:37 <Wolf01> So, better stay at home then...
10:12:54 <peter1138> Well
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12:27:06 <Samu> hello
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14:37:01 <Samu> GetBuildWithRefitCapacity (TileIndex depot, EngineID engine_id, CargoID cargo) aww crap, it requires a depot :(
14:53:16 <peter1138> Yup
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15:24:21 <Samu> BuildVehicleWithRefit is already helpful
15:30:45 <Samu> now, the mail part...
15:30:58 <Samu> aka refit
15:31:04 <Samu> refited capacity
15:31:44 <Samu> must think how to work around the issue
15:32:46 <spnda> huh very weird. all my changes since my last commit have just dissapeared...
15:45:37 <Eddi|zuHause> that may happen if you use git wrong...
15:45:47 <Eddi|zuHause> (also, it's very easy to use git wrong)
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16:05:47 <Samu> well, GetBuildWithRefitCapacity at least lets me get the correct engine when in building mode, the route is already done, I got the depots, so it's half good
16:05:56 <Samu> but in planning mode... I'm still screwed
16:06:31 <Samu> at least the important part will work better
16:08:05 <Samu> in planning mode I need to error once
16:08:19 <Samu> hmm...
16:08:33 <Samu> must think
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16:29:20 <Samu> peter1138, when i filter engines by cargo type, it lists the refited capacity of the engine
16:29:39 <Samu> why is that it still require a depot? :(
16:30:45 <Samu> ah... i see
16:30:49 <Samu> nevermind, i found out
16:32:40 <Samu> [img]https://i.imgur.com/pIXa5Fr.png[/img]
16:32:59 <Samu> listing aircraft with cargo filter set to mail
16:33:15 <Samu> with depot it lists the refited capacity, without it doesn't :( too bad
16:38:44 <Samu> static Money AIAirport::GetMonthlyMaintenanceCost
16:38:44 <Samu> (
16:38:44 <Samu> AirportType
16:38:44 <Samu> type
16:38:44 <Samu> )
16:38:46 <Samu> oops
16:38:51 <Samu> i wanna use this function
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18:47:38 <Samu_> im assuming too many wrong things on my aircraft portion of the ai to have infrastructure maintenance costs to work properly
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18:48:31 <Samu_> i assume my aircraft fly fully loaded
18:49:02 <Samu_> or that the airport will get (insert aircraft capacity) ready to load everytime an aircraft is loading
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18:58:57 <nielsm> that's a slightly risky assumption
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19:36:43 <Samu_> damn chicken/egg
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19:54:27 <Samu_> i'm making the formula so extra sensitive to town production changes now... it's not worth it
19:54:38 <Samu_> engines get replaced all the time
19:55:13 <Samu_> production decreases? build a smaller plane, production increases? build a larger plane :( i'm doing this wrong
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20:04:56 <andythenorth> hello
20:06:43 <frosch123> hi cat
20:07:10 <frosch123> did you buy all the litter?
20:20:03 <andythenorth> nope
20:20:15 <andythenorth> not even £25 hand sanitiser
20:20:29 <andythenorth> I played Reddit JGRPP bingo though
20:20:33 <andythenorth> won twice
20:21:47 <andythenorth> does / could bananas report something like a UA string for openttd client?
20:22:19 <frosch123> it does, tb cited some stats 1 or 2 weeks ago
20:23:04 <andythenorth> we could publish that data :P
20:23:13 <andythenorth> maybe sell it to data aggregators as business insight? o_O
20:23:55 <frosch123> try to sell them randomly generated data
20:26:21 <andythenorth> fake it until you make it
20:58:31 <TrueBrain> You short on cash or something?
21:21:12 <andythenorth> OpenTTD
21:21:27 <andythenorth> then we can pay people on fiverr
21:21:27 <andythenorth> for community management
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21:47:00 <Wolf01> \o/ the entire Italy red zone
21:47:29 <frosch123> so, did you work remotely?
21:47:30 <Wolf01> We lost at plague inc
21:48:40 <Wolf01> frosch123, nope, the current infrastructure is not ready for remote work, we only had a videoconference
21:49:18 <frosch123> the latter appears more advanced than the former
21:50:49 <Wolf01> Only because we don't know what to reroute through VPN, there is the entire license check system to get to work to be able to just open the software projects
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21:51:39 <TrueBrain> Route everything!
21:51:47 <TrueBrain> Internet included :)
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21:55:51 <andythenorth> I have to answer customer infosec questions on our VPNs and stuff
21:55:58 <andythenorth> it's always like 'what VPNs'?
21:56:22 <andythenorth> we did have a brief horrid period where we had actual servers in our office, svn and stuff
21:56:39 <andythenorth> but having 2 office sites and zero money forces web solutions early
21:57:02 <Wolf01> We are moving to cloud, but we can't for a lot of things
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22:09:28 <andythenorth> I have to fill out questionnaires aimed at people running Windows LANs
22:09:43 <andythenorth> it seems to be really common to run a lot of unauthed services on Windows LANs
22:09:51 <andythenorth> and rely on perimeter security
22:11:08 <frosch123> i don't think that is specific to windows
22:11:17 <andythenorth> printers I can understand :P
22:11:40 <andythenorth> other things not so much
22:12:10 <andythenorth> although it took me too long to realise how much tinfoil one needs to wear
22:12:14 <frosch123> there are security printers. you have to enter a pin before you can get the paper
22:12:21 <andythenorth> I didn't even have a password on my laptop for about 10 years
22:12:27 <andythenorth> oof
22:13:15 <frosch123> at cppcon there was a running gag. if someone presents on windows using the administrator account, then they are a ms employee
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22:19:51 <andythenorth> ooh
22:19:54 <andythenorth> FIRS sound effects?
22:20:02 <andythenorth> sawmill sound at EVERY INDUSTRY?
22:20:24 <LordAro> frosch123: haha
22:21:46 <frosch123> andythenorth: i always mute ottd, but if that is the case, and noone reported it in years, that's funny :)
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23:23:30 <Samu_> well, i'm impressed. [img]https://i.imgur.com/dm8itfn.png[/img]
23:23:52 <Samu_> I don't have the exact methods to handle infrastructure maintenance costs, but this is something
23:25:28 <Samu_> the strategy is changed a bit
23:25:48 <Samu_> instead of estimating an air route with a min of 2 aircraft, now it estimates a min of 6
23:26:10 <Samu_> so that when it builds it for real, it can at least get 6 aircraft at once
23:26:23 <Samu_> this way it won't spam many airports
23:26:37 <Samu_> before filling the existant ones
23:27:39 <Samu_> also, it won't build the biggest airport available
23:28:13 <Samu_> but the one with the cheapest maintenance cost that can still handle the plane type
23:28:52 * LordAro wonders whether the screenshot window should be hidden when taking a (normal) screenshot
23:30:14 <Samu_> there are some improvements that i can try yet, but now im off to bed, cyas
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