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07:42:24 <andythenorth> o/
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07:52:34 <Pikka> o/
07:56:34 <andythenorth> innit http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PTYYwaQeYeY/SxlGcSCVfYI/AAAAAAAAACc/RQfKaG8xNZU/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/Slag+Car+-+1.jpg
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07:59:15 <Pikka> steeltown?
07:59:23 <andythenorth> very
07:59:31 <andythenorth> 35mph speed limit
07:59:38 <andythenorth> realism max
07:59:54 <Pikka> I'm CivilAIing... trying to remember how the X and Y coords work. It was all written down on a piece of paper around here about 6 months ago...
08:00:12 <andythenorth> just look around for that
08:00:21 <andythenorth> CivilAI continues to deliver the lolz
08:00:33 <andythenorth> I should try it with the Migrations GS
08:05:42 <Pikka> well, passenger trains is next to add ;)
08:06:06 <Pikka> at the moment I'm teaching it to upgrade to electric... good times.
08:15:48 <andythenorth> if I had 2 of me
08:15:51 <andythenorth> I would do an AI
08:15:55 <andythenorth> but as I don't :)
08:37:33 <Pikka> it seems to have learned to use other rail types... I should try it with IH, see if it builds narrow gauge!
08:37:55 <andythenorth> hurrah
08:39:03 <Pikka> oh, I forgot a case... it needs to make sure it's using the same rail type when connecting to an existing network :)
08:56:38 * andythenorth makes FIRS
09:00:04 <andythenorth> is it done? https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9547/slag_grinding_plant_4.png
09:00:16 <andythenorth> bulldozer is animated obvs
09:04:20 <Pikka> hmmm maybe!
09:05:04 <andythenorth> didn't do snow yet
09:05:14 <andythenorth> snow needed for another 40 industries :P
09:12:28 <Pikka> yuck
09:14:41 <andythenorth> not much snow in BNE
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09:20:31 <Pikka> not at the moment, certainly
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12:13:58 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: https://www.reddit.com/r/openttd/comments/e96nv8/new_type_of_natural_disaster/
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12:32:45 <peter1138> Oh reddit...
12:32:53 <peter1138> andythenorth, I failed. I ate a doughnut before lunch :(
12:33:42 <peter1138> I guess some might consider that a win.
12:33:48 <peter1138> It was a krispy kreme after all.
12:35:17 * LordAro would
12:39:42 <peter1138> I skipped breakfast anyway, although that was due to overeating last night. Hmm.
12:46:58 <andythenorth> call it prep for christmas
12:47:25 <andythenorth> the important question of today has arrived
12:47:31 <andythenorth> it will affect many futures
12:47:38 <andythenorth> should I have more coffee?
12:57:39 <Pikka> more than what?
12:59:37 <andythenorth> more than....1?
12:59:41 <andythenorth> more than...earlier?
12:59:48 <andythenorth> more than...I had already?
13:05:39 <peter1138> More than me
13:08:54 <andythenorth> I have made a diligent list
13:09:01 <andythenorth> of things I need to finish for FIRS v4
13:09:11 * andythenorth is not feeling very diligent
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13:55:56 <Arveen> is that list public ?
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14:00:49 <andythenorth> nah
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14:09:03 <andythenorth> so....what ground tiles for Carbon Black Plant? :P
14:09:04 <andythenorth> https://i2-prod.cheshire-live.co.uk/incoming/article6393529.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/cabot.jpg
14:09:16 <andythenorth> concrete, mud, or grass? :P
14:10:23 <Arveen> yes
14:10:26 <Arveen> :D
14:10:30 <andythenorth> xor
14:10:49 <Arveen> hmmmmm
14:11:33 <Arveen> mostly concrete, there's lotsa gras on this pic but it's more outside of it
14:11:39 <andythenorth> I'm agreeing
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14:30:01 <planetmaker> hm...https://github.com/planetmaker/nml/runs/345554867
14:31:47 <andythenorth> we should test a build on pypy :)
14:31:51 <andythenorth> but that wasn't your question
14:34:01 <planetmaker> I will not think about pypy before I have solved automated builds for linux/windows/osx and publishing to pypi :)
14:34:32 <planetmaker> because there is only so much what can take my attention. And if it is distracted... nothing will ever get done
14:35:31 <andythenorth> :D
14:36:07 <peter1138> Well, I have saladded. With a slice of granary bread for a change.
14:38:41 <planetmaker> the question I actually have is: why is both 'Regression' and 'Python package' run on push to my repo? https://github.com/planetmaker/nml/actions
14:39:20 <planetmaker> regression is part of python package... why is it - again - run separately?
14:40:00 <planetmaker> hm... actually. Thanks for listening. Now I know :P
14:41:31 <Eddi|zuHause> the teddy bear programming worked?
14:42:06 <planetmaker> yep, quite
14:47:04 * andythenorth wonders about layered pngs
14:47:29 <andythenorth> ugh it's a proprietary Adobe mangling of png :(
14:47:39 <andythenorth> nvm
14:51:57 <peter1138> Surprise.
14:52:30 <planetmaker> today is not an 'Adobe is doing things fine'-day
14:52:45 <planetmaker> found that on a telecon earlier today
14:53:29 <andythenorth> oof
15:02:12 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: when was the last such day? :p
15:06:19 <planetmaker> good question :)
15:06:48 <planetmaker> Though granted, their telecon software usually worked quite fine for us. With the occasional exceptions. Today was the worst exception day
15:49:38 <FLHerne> vote, or drink more tea?
15:50:20 <andythenorth> both
15:50:23 <andythenorth> in sequence
15:50:40 <FLHerne> Actually, I have a thermos flask somewhere
15:50:41 <andythenorth> wrong channel, but the T32 is a beast of a tank, but very team dependent
15:50:53 <FLHerne> I could do them in parallel :-)
15:56:38 <Eddi|zuHause> i ordered a refurbished graphics card for 133€, was that a mistake?
15:57:49 <Eddi|zuHause> a new one would have been more like 180€
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16:54:51 <andythenorth> what does the cat think about it Eddi|zuHause ?
16:55:09 <Eddi|zuHause> ... miau?
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17:27:07 <LordAro> is it lunch?
17:32:34 <planetmaker> sorry, no lunch now
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17:46:10 <andythenorth> I made errors about lunch
17:46:18 <andythenorth> lunch was overlooked
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18:17:44 <supermop_work> ghi
18:21:40 <andythenorth> hi
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18:40:54 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] auge8472 opened pull request #113: Change: semantic HTML-elements for the pages main sections https://git.io/JeH4H
18:41:23 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] auge8472 commented on pull request #84: Change: semantic HTML-elements for the pages main sections and corresponding CSS-rules https://git.io/JeH45
18:41:23 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] auge8472 closed pull request #84: Change: semantic HTML-elements for the pages main sections and corresponding CSS-rules https://git.io/fjmi9
18:51:06 <andythenorth> well
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19:06:51 <andythenorth> still didn't lunch
19:06:56 * andythenorth really doing it wrong
19:11:32 <lugo> andythenorth, slag grinding plant looks great! I don't wan't to sound boring, but is there a chance for FIRS getting a "recuced colors" parameter or something? I think having pink quarry buildings and iron ore mines etc. looks weird.
19:12:35 <andythenorth> lugo: not a parameter any time soon, but you could mod this file and recompile https://github.com/andythenorth/firs/blob/master/src/templates/colour.pynml
19:12:44 <andythenorth> it already bans certain ugly colours
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19:25:59 <lugo> andythenorth: alright thank you!
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21:21:58 <andythenorth> hmm
21:22:10 <andythenorth> IRL these carbon black plants are big https://i2-prod.cheshire-live.co.uk/incoming/article6393529.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/cabot.jpg
21:22:13 <andythenorth> and complex
21:22:27 <andythenorth> but in FIRS it's small because it's low production :P
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22:27:51 <lugo> regarding my newgrf problem from yesterday; using a precompiled version of jgrpp-0.32.3 from the forums thread works fine, so there must be something off with my compiling environment or something..
22:28:43 <lugo> the binary from the thread (mingw) is way larger than what i get out vs2017
22:30:17 <lugo> then again compiling trunk with vs2017 works fine too
22:31:00 <Eddi|zuHause> binary size depends on loads of things
22:31:31 <Eddi|zuHause> like, which libraries are included as static
22:32:04 <Eddi|zuHause> if you compile just for yourself, you don't need any static libraries
22:34:53 <lugo> i pretty much just followed what is written in COMPILING.md
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