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00:42:49 <Eddi|zuHause> setting up compile environments is always a pain for me
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00:48:45 <Eddi|zuHause> <andythenorth> well https://uxmag.com/articles/when-theres-nothing-left-to-take-away <-- well, today i learned "if it's not broken, it doesn't have enough features yet"
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03:19:01 <FLHerne> The action7 doc says
03:19:06 <FLHerne> > Since r1384 it is possible to set this to 8 bytes with Variable 88 thus allowing the use of a bit mask. This is useful for if only a few bits change over several grfs.
03:21:50 <FLHerne> Oh, I just found the other half under `value` further down
03:22:49 <FLHerne> But still, "it is possible to" and "setting varsize to 8" sound like it's optional, and varsize 4 would work as expected?
03:24:00 <FLHerne> Whereas nml goes to some trouble to create an 8-byte value including 0xFFFFFFFF as the mask
03:24:28 <FLHerne> Which only seems worth doing if it doesn't
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08:52:38 <Pikka> such horse, andythenorth
08:52:47 <Pikka> can't tempt you to draw wagons for UKRS3? ;)
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09:07:24 <andythenorth> Pikka: 4x the pixels?
09:07:43 <Pikka> 4 times the fun!
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09:08:01 <andythenorth> will you finish all the ships for Unsinkable Sam? :)
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09:08:36 * andythenorth guesses not ;)
09:09:08 <Pikka> oops :)
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09:16:40 <andythenorth> Pikka: just draw these, simples :) https://tri-angman.co.uk/shop/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/IMG_8350.jpg
09:17:25 <Pikka> noice
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09:34:02 <andythenorth> Pikka: how is progress then? :D
09:35:02 <Pikka> UKRS3? not too much new but I want to get something out this week, remind everyone it still exists ;)
09:35:41 <andythenorth> huzzah
09:35:42 <andythenorth> etc
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10:04:55 <peter1138> Is it lunch time yet?
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10:14:24 <Darkvater> hurray, managed to get nickserv working again such a long time since i used irc :O
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10:15:58 <peter1138> OMG
10:16:00 <peter1138> Hello :-)
10:16:34 <Darkvater> Hi peter1138! Cant believe you are still actice here!
10:16:59 <peter1138> I'm not sure active is right word. I mostly just talk about lunch :-)
10:17:27 <orudge> Darkvater!
10:17:30 <orudge> It's been quite some time
10:18:49 <Darkvater> yes, it has. I'm back in Europe now so thought I'd pop buy
10:19:08 <Darkvater> dont't you guys work or anything? That said, I'm also at work
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10:19:37 <peter1138> Heh, yes.
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10:23:17 <Darkvater> :)
10:23:23 <Darkvater> so, what did I miss?
10:24:30 <orudge> We moved to GitHub
10:25:46 <orudge> and, well, OpenTTD's still going, so that's something :P
10:25:58 <peter1138> Yeah, switching to git was a nice change.
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10:58:00 <dihedral> there he is! Darkvater
10:58:04 <dihedral> hello sir!
11:04:05 <andythenorth> yo
11:08:19 <LordAro> osht, and ancient one
11:17:55 <dihedral> <Darkvater> dont't you guys work or anything? That said, I'm also at work <- I am AT work. Does that count?
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13:02:11 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not at work.
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19:26:44 <FLHerne> andythenorth: nml implements `roadtype_available()` [equivalent to `railtype_available()`], but not `roadtype()` [equivalent to `railtype()`] as builtin functions
19:26:50 <FLHerne> tramtype ditto
19:27:06 <FLHerne> Is there a reason for that, or just an oversight?
19:27:21 <glx> oversight I guess
19:27:28 <glx> NRT is new
19:27:56 <FLHerne> (it would return up the integer ID corresponding to a given roadtype label)
19:28:14 <FLHerne> That was my guess, but might as well check
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19:44:06 <andythenorth> FLHerne: assume fuckup not conspiracy :)
19:44:08 * andythenorth BIAB
19:45:52 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/Je9l5
19:45:52 <DorpsGek_III_> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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21:10:05 <andythenorth> when an industry needs greeble, what do we add?
21:10:10 <andythenorth> A CRANE!!
21:10:12 <andythenorth> that's what
21:14:19 <nielsm> there's a limit to how many random sheds and stacks of containers you can add
21:17:08 <andythenorth> mostly I add cranes :P
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22:40:12 <andythenorth> stuff and things
22:40:48 <andythenorth> with pypy and primed caches, a FIRS compile is about 12 seconds where only a few sprites have changed
22:41:49 <andythenorth> I haven't got accurate times for py3.8 to hand, but I think it's about 4x faster
22:42:09 <andythenorth> does nml cache / diff the .nml file before parsing?
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