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00:07:48 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 opened pull request #7835: Fix e3511ecac: don't use bash specific syntax (again) https://git.io/Jer76
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01:03:26 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 approved pull request #7819: Fix #7606: Game crash when trying to clean up a crashed script https://git.io/Jer52
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05:29:16 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Montandalar commented on issue #7831: Crash on placing vehicle in group that used to contain 1 vehicle https://git.io/JerJc
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11:28:19 <peter1138> https://www.onyerbike.com/m4b0s163p10162/CUBE-Travel-Pro-2020
11:28:46 <peter1138> Hmm... bit expensive for a commuter bike, but nice features (hub dynamo, hub gears and belt-drive)
11:28:54 <peter1138> Lack of drop-bars though :/
11:29:12 <peter1138> Also black is not great.
12:11:08 <LordAro> ooh, belt drive
12:11:12 <LordAro> bit weird
12:11:49 <peter1138> A little.
12:12:20 <LordAro> wheels look weirdly big on that frame too
12:12:26 <LordAro> might just be the size in the picture
12:12:36 <peter1138> It's 55mm tyres, also weird.
12:12:55 <peter1138> The Travel SL model has more normal 37mm tyres, and slightly better kit.
12:13:01 <LordAro> 55?!
12:13:03 <peter1138> But, uh...
12:13:04 <peter1138> Yeah
12:13:19 * LordAro checks against a ruler
12:13:24 <LordAro> oh, that's not actually that huge
12:13:29 <LordAro> just huge for a road bike
12:13:30 <peter1138> It is
12:13:35 <peter1138> Yeah
12:14:00 <peter1138> I suspect I want a steel tourer with proper drop-bars.
12:14:21 <peter1138> But last time I specced that out it came to nearer 2k
12:14:46 <LordAro> would last forever though
12:14:51 <peter1138> I kinda also want something cheap for commuting, as it'll get wrecked.
12:15:00 <peter1138> Yeah, steel is nicer than alu, apart from rust.
12:15:24 <LordAro> clearly should get titanium
12:15:26 <peter1138> I want cheap, but I also want dynamo & disc brakes, so... meh, not really possible.
12:15:27 <LordAro> for a commuter
12:15:29 <peter1138> Nah, way too much.
12:15:33 <LordAro> :p
12:15:37 <peter1138> Also frame sizes are limited unless you go full custom.
12:15:56 <peter1138> One reason I seem to end up with Cube bikes is they are relatively cheap and cater for tall people.
12:16:11 <peter1138> Although my MTB is a Marin, hmm.
12:16:16 <peter1138> My broken MTB is a Cube.
12:16:23 <peter1138> Never did that fixed :(
12:18:15 * LordAro is progressing nicely towards getting a shiny new Mason
12:18:35 <LordAro> by which i'm moving in 2 weeks time to a place that has space! (by means of a garage)
12:18:43 <LordAro> by which i mean*
12:18:52 <peter1138> Heh
14:07:46 <Samu> hi
14:20:30 <Arveen> lunch ?
14:38:43 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 commented on issue #7088: Crash when viewing AI textfile and switching to Random AI https://git.io/fhVoc
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14:39:52 <LordAro> Arveen: post-lunch snack
14:51:46 <peter1138> Oh, yes, it was lunch.
14:51:57 <Samu> i made a fix for that
14:52:28 <peter1138> Me too, I had a packed lunch and I ate it.
14:56:09 <Samu> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/7094
14:56:46 <Samu> it's stale
14:56:59 <Samu> nobody reviewed it
14:57:37 <Samu> there's an early review
14:57:42 <Samu> outdated
15:04:12 <LordAro> Samu: no point pinging for review after its been closed
15:04:21 <LordAro> but i think you're right, it does need another look
15:04:29 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro reopened pull request #7094: Fix #7088: Retrieve an appropriate name for a non-existant AI/GS when displaying a textfile https://git.io/fhrqY
15:04:41 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro dismissed a review for pull request #7094: Fix #7088: Retrieve an appropriate name for a non-existant AI/GS when displaying a textfile https://git.io/fhr6S
15:04:58 <LordAro> Samu: can you rebase it and check everything still works?
15:05:32 <Samu> ok
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15:15:41 <Samu> my computer is slow, because for some reason it's only using 8 GB of RAM of 16 GB installed, what happened
15:19:47 <Samu> god damn it's so slow, what a difference 8 gb to 16 it makes
15:22:20 <LordAro> try closing chrome
15:23:19 <Samu> got 8 GB reserved to hardware, for some weird reason, wtf
15:32:17 <Samu> it works
15:32:19 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick updated pull request #7094: Fix #7088: Retrieve an appropriate name for a non-existant AI/GS when displaying a textfile https://git.io/fhrqY
15:32:33 <Samu> jesus something that could have been done in 5 minutes, took me 25
15:32:45 <Samu> brb, gonna try re-seat the memory modules
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15:33:55 <Arveen> reseating will not change this in my experience
15:34:53 <Arveen> meanwhile i'm still pondering if i should upgrade from 16 to 32 or 64 🤔
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15:43:59 <Samu> back to 16 gb
15:44:20 <Arveen> interesting
15:49:32 <peter1138> I have to say, going from 32GB to 64GB didn't gain me too much, though I have seen usage > 40GB...
15:50:35 <Arveen> you doing 4x16 or 2x32 ?
15:50:43 <peter1138> 4x16
15:52:37 <peter1138> I already had 2x16.
15:54:36 <Arveen> memory is pretty cheap right now
15:54:59 <Arveen> that's why i'm thinking about just getting 64 right away
15:55:01 <peter1138> Yes, that's why I added more.
15:55:07 <Arveen> even i don't really need it currently
15:55:17 <peter1138> It's actually come down a bit since I did but not massively.
15:55:46 <Samu> what i really need is an SSD
15:56:00 <Arveen> i will probably wait and grab an 3950X CPU and 64 GB of memory once it's available, heh
15:57:17 <Arveen> where do you life Samu ? I got 10+ unused SSDs laying around at home
15:57:20 <Samu> I want a 1 TB SSD for a max of €100
15:57:39 <Samu> portugal
15:57:52 <Arveen> well that's a bit far for a pick up, heh
15:57:58 <peter1138> That's a bit small.
15:58:06 <peter1138> I already have 2 x 2TB ;-)
15:58:11 <Samu> im poor
15:58:28 <Samu> so poor im still using HDD
15:58:42 <peter1138> Eww
15:58:51 <peter1138> I have some HDDs too, but...
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16:04:56 <Arveen> welp, time to go home from work :D
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16:05:01 <Samu> path of exile eats ram, i just noticed
16:05:10 <Arveen> yes it does, heh
16:05:24 <Arveen> watching ExileCon tonight ?
16:05:30 <Samu> it's constantly pre-loading assets in the background
16:05:38 <Samu> i don't think so
16:05:46 <Samu> i rather be playing or so
16:22:20 <Samu> peter, what's your cpu
16:28:20 <Samu> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/files/3439310/Henfingburg.Transport.1951-03-15.zip
16:28:28 <Samu> benchmark road vehicle ticks
16:31:46 <Samu> FX-8150 - 64.20 ms
16:33:49 <Samu> Ryzen 5 3600 - 20.75 ms
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17:54:23 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Hexus-One commented on pull request #7607: Feature Request/WIP: Rail Planner track builder https://git.io/Jeokp
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19:30:01 <andythenorth> yo
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19:33:24 <Arveen> yO to you too sir
19:41:25 <LordAro> y0
19:42:45 <Samu> aww no one benchmarks that savegame
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20:16:16 <andythenorth> peter1138: that cube :)
20:56:42 <glx> #7835 needs a review
21:06:13 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh merged pull request #7819: Fix #7606: Game crash when trying to clean up a crashed script https://git.io/Jeg29
21:06:14 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh closed issue #7606: Crash during run AI manually https://git.io/fjBPq
21:12:17 <peter1138> andythenorth, hmm? Good? Bad?
21:12:27 <andythenorth> practical
21:12:35 <peter1138> Yeah.
21:12:42 <andythenorth> I had a matt black Marin for a long time
21:12:46 <andythenorth> matte *
21:12:50 <peter1138> I've been using a backpack for too long.
21:12:58 <peter1138> My road bike is a cube, also matt black.
21:13:09 <andythenorth> until I went electrical, I had the boring Scott aluminium hybrid
21:13:18 <andythenorth> which was boring, but never went wrong
21:13:19 <peter1138> Has mudguards designed for it too, but one broke, so now it has a clip-on that wobbles...
21:13:30 <andythenorth> I had the disc pads changed once, nothing else ever needed work
21:13:37 <peter1138> But, yeah, Ultegra group set is not practical for commuting, it EATS chains.
21:14:02 <andythenorth> my electrical go faster bike has an enclosed chain
21:14:11 <andythenorth> not a belt, but still avoids most of the hassle
21:14:27 <peter1138> Mmm
21:16:06 <peter1138> Okay, Lidl's "Plunged Orange" Pale Ale is rather nice.
21:16:22 <peter1138> Sadly I only had one can :(
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21:18:13 <peter1138> If that bike had drop-bars I would just get it. Hmm.
21:18:40 <peter1138> But IIRC the geometry needs to be different for flat vs drop bars.
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21:20:17 <peter1138> Time for a Big Clive video.
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22:50:35 <andythenorth> so when do we fork the newgrf spec for jgrpp?
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