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15:10:54  <supermop_work> yo

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16:06:54  <Eddi|zuHause> no, youtube, i don't have any interest in the iphone

16:07:49  <nnyby> hmmmm hehe https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/pull/94

16:13:30  <nielsm> yeah that didn't really happen

16:13:34  <nielsm> august was very dead

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16:27:27  <peter1139> Summer Hols!

16:28:50  <andythenorth> hi

16:28:58  <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: nobody has any interest in the iphone

16:29:31  <andythenorth> I watched the whole Apple keynote, it was very uninteresting

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17:55:05  <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: i've never watched any keynote, and i wouldn't know why i should...

17:55:27  <andythenorth> you missed nothing

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18:39:31  <Eddi|zuHause> turns out the lutris wine builds are against glibc 2.27, but my system uses 2.26

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19:20:37  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] realrecordzLab opened issue #7734: Crash on multiplayer https://git.io/Jem6P

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19:30:03  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh closed issue #7734: Crash on multiplayer https://git.io/Jem6P

19:30:04  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on issue #7734: Crash on multiplayer https://git.io/Jem6P

19:30:18  <nielsm> so should we release 1.9.3 ?

19:33:06  <Eddi|zuHause> don't we usually keep RC around for a week or so?

19:34:24  <Eddi|zuHause> did we announce RC1 anywhere?

19:35:38  <nnyby> in the channel topic :P

19:35:53  <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not sure that's helping anyone :p

19:41:12  <frosch123> anything less than 2 weeks is not worth the rc

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19:45:45  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/Jemim

19:45:45  <DorpsGek_III>   - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)

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19:46:10  <nielsm> I posted about it in the forum thread about the mac performance issue

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19:50:38  <andythenorth> hurrah

19:50:46  <andythenorth> it's 18:50 here

19:51:15  <frosch123> babysitter arrived?

19:51:32  <frosch123> lunch time?

19:52:13  <andythenorth> it is the time of day when GDPR, cookies, PECR, and ISO 27001 can wait until tomorrow

19:52:19  <nielsm> hmm I wonder, shouldn't we register a protocol handler to let users join a multiplayer server via a web link?

19:52:44  <frosch123> PECR is new to me

19:53:11  <frosch123> ah, uk specific

19:53:36  <andythenorth> it unintentionally makes cookies illegal

19:53:40  <nielsm> like, openttd://127.0.0.1:3981?version=1.9.3&password=asdf&join=4&companypassword=qwerty

19:53:44  <andythenorth> quite old legislation

19:53:56  <andythenorth> not allowed to store data on a user's device without permission

19:54:05  <andythenorth> so setting cookies is illegal without explicit consent

19:54:09  <frosch123> blame the browser

19:54:18  <andythenorth> ha ha

19:54:53  <andythenorth> it's possibly lolz

19:55:05  <andythenorth> anyway should I Horse or Blitz?

19:55:20  <andythenorth> my W key is failing, and Blitz is mostly 'WWWWWWWWWWWWWW' or 'SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS'

19:55:32  <andythenorth> 'drive forward', 'drive backwards'

19:55:35  <Eddi|zuHause> remap it?

19:55:44  <andythenorth> or stop buying Apple laptops?

19:55:45  <andythenorth> hmm

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19:59:16  <andythenorth> new bundles server? :)

20:00:08  <Eddi|zuHause> i should actually really get a new computer sometime soon

20:01:26  <frosch123> i have been considering a new computers for years now

20:01:36  <frosch123> first i wanted to wait until spectre and stuff is done

20:02:03  <frosch123> then i wanted to wait for when amd stops breaking linux every few months

20:02:14  <frosch123> then i discovered that my next computer may be a notebook...

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20:04:08  <Eddi|zuHause> ... but a 9 year old computer with a 6 year old graphics card that was low-end back then, doesn't really cut it anymore

20:04:47  <frosch123> my cpu is also 9 years old, but i replaced the graphicscard two years ago, and replaced the hdd with an ssd

20:06:10  <Eddi|zuHause> i have an SSD that is too small, and a RAID5 that i extended once, but need to clean up or it runs full again

20:06:26  <milek7> hm, amd breaking linux?

20:07:42  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh opened issue #7735: Protocol handler to join network games https://git.io/Jemi1

20:07:49  <frosch123> the new ryzen 3000 broke systemd due to the "random2 instruction returning -1 or something

20:08:20  <andythenorth> I think happiness is achieved

20:08:26  <andythenorth> when we just accept all of it is broken, all the time

20:08:34  <andythenorth> permanent state of tech :)

20:08:35  <frosch123> same happened with another amd 2 years ago

20:10:13  <frosch123> https://github.com/NixOS/systemd/commit/5fb35fbc783516e2014115c3488134a2afb8494c

20:19:59  <milek7> ah that, but at least that was simple patch

20:20:05  <milek7> i'm only sad that rr doesn't work

20:21:35  <frosch123> rr?

20:22:10  <milek7> reverse debugger

20:22:11  <milek7> https://rr-project.org/

20:24:41  <frosch123> i didn't expect that to be cpu specific

20:25:41  <milek7> it uses performance counters to count branches, and on ryzen they are slightly inaccurate

20:26:22  <Eddi|zuHause> so it relies on unspecified behaviour

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23:29:01  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] orudge opened pull request #7736: Fix: Avoid using stat to retrieve file modification times on Windows (#7731) https://git.io/JemMU

23:36:34  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #7736: Fix: Avoid using stat to retrieve file modification times on Windows (#7731) https://git.io/JemMG

23:42:36  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] orudge commented on pull request #7736: Fix: Avoid using stat to retrieve file modification times on Windows (#7731) https://git.io/JemMB

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23:46:54  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] orudge updated pull request #7736: Fix: Avoid using stat to retrieve file modification times on Windows (#7731) https://git.io/JemMU

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