IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2019-07-23
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09:09:25 <nakki> eugh, opening curls on new lines irk me
09:09:51 <nakki> but i guess that's because my first language was java
09:39:21 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not really about one way being superior to the other, but to be consistent across the whole codebase you need choose one.
09:41:38 <Eddi|zuHause> and if it goes against your "native" codestyle, you can still program with that one, and do some minor touchups in the review process to adjust
10:12:14 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] kiwitreekor commented on pull request #7575: Feature: Add industry production graph https://git.io/fjDkn
10:45:37 <Eddi|zuHause> "Building and Testing a Lego-powered Submarine"... so... it burns lego bricks to propel itself?
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15:54:57 <Eddi|zuHause> you're entering the danger zone
15:59:56 <andythenorth> what could happen? :o
16:26:24 <peter1138> Andrew Lloyd-Webber's Variations. Good album.
17:12:07 <nielsm> well, I ended up submitting a question to Discord's developer support, asking about their SDK licensing and whether/how it's compatible with GPL
17:12:33 <andythenorth> ice cream headache
17:13:12 <nielsm> I'm thinking about making a DLL that does the main integration work for rich presence, and then making a thin call api between that DLL and OTTD, and letting the DLL be dynamically discovered and loaded
17:15:45 <nielsm> only thing I can gather from it is that dumping their SDK source into a GPL git repository would be no-go
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17:23:15 <andythenorth> how many carolies in a Vienetta?
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18:18:57 <Eddi|zuHause> nielsm: independent of this licensing question, it should probably be prepared to talk to other similar apps
18:21:06 <nielsm> Eddi|zuHause yeah, I'd make it a generic "integration api" for ottd so you basically just dump a DLL that ottd calls into when the player starts/joins a game and during certain events
18:21:17 <nielsm> and then the dll does whatever
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19:37:38 <andythenorth> anything I can do to help modernise devzone? o_O
19:41:04 <frosch123> first i thought jenkins, but it needs so much manual stuff per project
19:41:16 <frosch123> i wanted to look into buildbot, but didn't yet
19:41:34 <frosch123> basically some tool to display build logs
20:03:00 <andythenorth> Jenkins won CI as far as I know
20:03:27 <andythenorth> I have very little use for the Jenkins GUI on devzone though
20:03:32 <andythenorth> I use it more at work
20:21:13 <Alberth> andy: I bisected the build-train bug back to d54b6ac09b6fe88c09f7886739fe9c05f16b8222 (feb 28th)
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20:36:13 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Alberth289346 opened issue #7667: Buying an engine after buying wagons doesn't give a complete train. https://git.io/fjDn5
21:33:52 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] stormcone opened pull request #7668: Fix #7667: Buying an engine after buying wagons doesn't give a comple… https://git.io/fjDc9
21:41:07 <Samu> who the heck makes the portuguese translations? It's terrible
21:42:17 <Samu> it's like someone put it through some translator, not caring where it's aimed at... arf
21:43:19 <Samu> "quantidade de atraso do percurso do comboio" - this is in the framerate window
21:43:29 <Samu> what the heck is this, rofl
21:43:43 <glx> probably translated without knowing the context
21:46:37 <Samu> it ruins the window title, it makes the graph be so out of place
21:46:59 <andythenorth> you can rebuild him ;)
21:47:25 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm having a feeling this "fix" is too easy to be true
21:48:08 <Samu> why is game loop total in blue for portuguese, but black in english
21:49:00 <Samu> i thought portuguese was being handled properly, it's been alright up to a few years ago
21:49:14 <Samu> didn't bother to translate myself
21:51:00 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc commented on pull request #7668: Fix #7667: Buying an engine after buying wagons doesn't give a comple… https://git.io/fjDCq
21:51:05 <Tempus2> That's how free open software works :P
21:52:22 <Samu> brazillian portuguese looks much more professional
21:52:32 <Samu> the guy know what was doing there
21:52:42 <Tempus2> I always reply this to people that complain about free software: Demand your money back!
21:53:23 <Tempus2> But between the lines I am really saying: Contribute!
21:53:24 <Samu> albeit they forced white
21:53:33 <Samu> that's kinda like modding
21:54:04 <Tempus2> What is kind of like modding?
21:54:18 <Samu> the brazillian portuguese framerate window
21:54:32 <Samu> the text was supposed to be black
21:54:51 <Samu> the translation however is solid
21:55:02 <LordAro> tbh, i'm not sure why the colour is part of the translation
21:55:08 <LordAro> other than "it's simpler"
21:55:49 <glx> and probably better than splitting straings
21:56:16 <dwfreed> some languages don't split very easily
21:56:47 <glx> yeah it's often needed to reorder args too
21:56:57 <Tempus2> But... since you know that the "Brazillian Portuguese" is solid, wouldn't that suffice though?
21:58:25 <Samu> my country sucks, confirmed
21:59:46 <Eddi|zuHause> the string validation should maybe reject colour codes if the original doesn't contain any?
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22:00:42 <LordAro> or a matching set of colour codes, perhaps?
22:01:05 <Eddi|zuHause> it might sometimes be necessary to shuffle around colours if you shuffle around grammar
22:01:17 <Eddi|zuHause> so strict matching might not be sane
22:01:43 * peter1138 boggles at people going out and doing a hard ride in this temperature...
22:02:35 <LordAro> peter1138: couple of friends of mine did Alpe d'Huez today
22:02:42 <LordAro> it did not look all that fun
22:03:39 <peter1138> I managed my normal commute of course, but I got through most of a bottle of water. I don't normally have any with me...
22:04:03 <peter1138> andythenorth, that's exercise enough, eh?
22:04:03 <glx> it was 33 an hour ago here
22:04:36 <Samu> still hot weather in europe?
22:13:34 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] stormcone commented on pull request #7668: Fix #7667: Buying an engine after buying wagons doesn't give a comple… https://git.io/fjDC2
22:13:56 <Samu> jesus 38 in paris, that's insane
22:14:40 <glx> yes it's insane, I confirm :)
22:16:22 <Samu> temps decrease here on thursday, going 27 in lisbon at least
22:17:47 <peter1138> LordAro, so last night I was at the theatre (saw Avenue Q) came home late, needed to eat, so I ate. That then made me stay up late... Got to sleep about 2am... Woke up at 7:45... had breakfast, quick wash & dress. Got bike out of shed... FLAT TYRE.
22:18:24 <peter1138> LordAro, replaced inner tube, cycled to work... Got there 10 minutes earlier than normal o_O
22:19:53 * andythenorth woke up at 5am because hot tub was beeping, fixed that, made wife tea, fed kids, phoned australia
22:21:48 <Samu> man, my AI does so bad in desert tileset
22:22:34 <Samu> need to take whether towns can grow into account
22:27:22 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc commented on pull request #7668: Fix #7667: Buying an engine after buying wagons doesn't give a comple… https://git.io/fjDCH
22:30:24 <nielsm> lots of code to do nothing (so far)
22:37:03 <Eddi|zuHause> <LordAro> peter1138: couple of friends of mine did Alpe d'Huez today <-- so who's the king of that climb?
22:39:23 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] stormcone updated pull request #7668: Fix #7667: Buying an engine after buying wagons doesn't give a comple… https://git.io/fjDc9
22:39:27 <LordAro> Eddi|zuHause: Romain Bardet, apparently
22:39:42 <LordAro> he's currently busy in the TdF, of course
22:40:27 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] stormcone commented on pull request #7668: Fix #7667: Buying an engine after buying wagons doesn't give a comple… https://git.io/fjDWJ
22:58:45 <FLHerne> Its too hot to be nap time
22:59:14 <FLHerne> (and will continue to be until about 6am, when it'll be [briefly] cool enough but too late)
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23:14:59 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc approved pull request #7668: Fix #7667: Buying an engine after buying wagons doesn't give a comple… https://git.io/fjDWH
23:15:11 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc merged pull request #7668: Fix #7667: Buying an engine after buying wagons doesn't give a comple… https://git.io/fjDc9
23:15:22 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc closed issue #7667: Buying an engine after buying wagons doesn't give a complete train. https://git.io/fjDn5
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