IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2019-06-30
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00:28:18 <Eddi|zuHause> ... probably needs to zoom out one more level to see how to refactor it
00:28:51 <Eddi|zuHause> ... "unrelated"... we could finally turn the text stack into an actual stack maybe? :p
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10:34:09 <michi_cc> nielsm: You have some open comments on #7620.
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10:37:09 <reldred> I wonder what other bad naughty things I can do with the C preprocessor
10:49:46 <andythenorth> I thought we'd stopped all that :)
10:50:06 <andythenorth> if you write a parametric macro, then you have crossed a line
10:50:20 <reldred> patchman originally taught me how to do that and I must honor the OG's
10:51:07 <andythenorth> have you heard of something called 'python'?
10:53:00 <reldred> I'll worry about what other tools can do when the tools I'm currently using stop doing the job
10:53:20 <andythenorth> I have the zeal of the former addict
10:53:24 <andythenorth> FIRS used to be all CPP
10:53:39 <andythenorth> tool's a tool though
10:53:44 <reldred> but no in all seriousness I will look at other methods for the next project but I'm not refactoring this entire one
10:54:09 <reldred> I'll probably just go straight into nml or m4nfo for the next one
10:54:36 <reldred> I'm not really a programmer so I like a simple tool that does what I want it to do/
10:54:39 <andythenorth> nml is quite horrible without templating :)
10:55:04 <andythenorth> defining and redefining constants
10:56:05 <reldred> yeah I've just started abusing #define's in the nabs codebase now
10:56:37 <reldred> just #define's and #include's, I haven't started completely cracking out
10:56:56 <reldred> I'm not in hollowed out lightbulb territory yet
10:57:42 <andythenorth> LordAro: so the dev blog post can mention 7380 :)
10:57:53 <andythenorth> and the bugs and performance issues that are being investigated
10:58:47 <reldred> June can fuck off already
10:59:31 <reldred> although to be honest I'm simultaneously dreading and waiting out for something in august so yeah mixed feelings.
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13:23:46 <reldred> hmmm why is the building protection flag not working
13:24:03 <reldred> guess I'll just have to do it with callbacks
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14:37:30 <reldred> aaaaand it's on the fruitmarket
14:38:56 <reldred> fucking hell, half a million downloads on city stations? why?
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14:50:57 <reldred> I'm pleased with how nabs is behaving though
14:51:01 <reldred> plays nicely with other sets
14:51:08 <reldred> doesn't drown them out
14:51:48 <reldred> Building protection rules work nicely.
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16:49:17 <andythenorth> so what have we got for June post?
16:49:32 <andythenorth> does anyone know how the dev posts are done?
16:49:51 <Eddi|zuHause> you just edit the file in github
17:03:13 <andythenorth> edit directly, or in my fork?
17:05:43 <Corns[m]> q: with pointers, is the convention for NULL to still use NULL? or is it nullptr
17:06:49 <nielsm> in openttd code everything is switched to nullptr
17:07:13 <Corns[m]> whoops time to ctrl-h everything
17:08:52 <Corns[m]> are things like `if (x != nullptr)` still legal?
17:10:47 <nielsm> iirc the code style prescribes to not use implicit conversion of ints/pointers to bool, always compare to 0 or nullptr
17:14:35 <reldred> wtf andythenorth I thought half a million downloads was a lot but for it to be the 2nd most highly downloaded grf on bananas? I'm going to bed.
17:26:06 <Corns[m]> ship planner tool is almost complete :)
17:26:18 <Corns[m]> just need to redo the draw function so it updates the highlight properly
17:26:50 <Corns[m]> and also figure out how best to rewrite the DoCommand (as opposed to send a seperate command per tile)
17:27:14 <Corns[m]> oops i forgot to add aqueducts as an option
17:28:27 <Corns[m]> i feel that aqueducsts are disproportionately expensive
17:29:27 <nielsm> are they? they seem like they should be ridiculously expensive
17:30:05 <nielsm> seeing you need a bridge construction that can carry a gigantic amount of water
17:30:23 <Corns[m]> i mean, yeah IRL they're pricey
17:30:50 <Corns[m]> but in game (not that money matters) they're more expensive than demolishing an ocean
17:32:20 <Corns[m]> i'll make it a last resort option with a high cost i guess :^)
17:33:15 <Corns[m]> i need to make a mini window to control options
18:05:17 <michi_cc> andythenorth: Edit directly from that link and don't create a new branch to have the changes show up in the PR.
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19:58:12 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: no need for fork, that just makes things needlessly complicated
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20:58:02 <andythenorth> it's not shakespeare
20:58:08 <andythenorth> but it's the last day of June, let's ship oit
21:43:13 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nikolas updated pull request #7086: Change #6173: Update SDL driver to use SDL 2.0 https://git.io/fhamZ
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21:56:14 <michi_cc> Didn't somebody started to prepare a 1.9.2 release? If we do it, everybody will assume we are diligently working (just don't tell anybody that the commits on the branch have already aged a bit :)
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21:57:18 <andythenorth> we are diligently working :)
22:13:41 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc opened pull request #7632: Update: Changelog for 1.9.2 and prepare for release https://git.io/fjKU8
22:20:22 <michi_cc> Bah, we let it sit for too long.
22:21:16 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc updated pull request #7632: Update: Changelog for 1.9.2 and prepare for release https://git.io/fjKU8
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22:30:11 <michi_cc> glx: Any idea why #7632 is still failing on LZMA?
22:39:47 <glx> michi_cc: maybe it's not WITH_LIBLZMA in 1.9 branch
22:40:48 <michi_cc> Ah, yes, WITH_LMZA. Was renamed to prepare for CMake, wasn't it?
22:42:20 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc updated pull request #7632: Update: Changelog for 1.9.2 and prepare for release https://git.io/fjKU8
22:42:27 <LordAro> andythenorth: still needs renaming
22:42:39 <LordAro> text could do with a little work as well, i don't like the raw links
22:52:16 <frosch123> i don't know how to answer half of them :p
22:59:14 <glx> there are more "backport requested" labels
23:05:13 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #7632: Update: Changelog for 1.9.2 and prepare for release https://git.io/fjKTU
23:21:32 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc updated pull request #7632: Update: Changelog for 1.9.2 and prepare for release https://git.io/fjKU8
23:29:18 <michi_cc> There's a PR. Didn't test it though.
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