IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2019-05-16
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00:35:45 <Eddi|zuHause> unfortunately i'm not in a place where bike commute is feasible
00:36:58 <Eddi|zuHause> something like 25km to any place i would reasonably work at
00:37:11 <supermop_work> currently commuting by bike would likely take longer than walking
01:27:53 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] stale[bot] commented on pull request #7515: Fix: Really check for start_date once an AI company slot becomes available. https://git.io/fjliJ
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02:44:03 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JGRennison opened issue #7593: Null pointer dereference in ScriptOrder::GetOrderDistance in VT_AIR mode on waypoint tiles https://git.io/fjli6
02:48:15 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JGRennison opened issue #7594: Max speed string dparam set incorrectly in road vehicle purchase window when using original acceleration model https://git.io/fjlii
03:44:06 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #7594: Max speed string dparam set incorrectly in road vehicle purchase window when using original acceleration model https://git.io/fjlPm
03:47:31 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #7593: Null pointer dereference in ScriptOrder::GetOrderDistance in VT_AIR mode on waypoint tiles https://git.io/fjlPY
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07:42:34 <Hazzard> Tryna figure out how station rating works
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08:08:42 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on issue #7593: Null pointer dereference in ScriptOrder::GetOrderDistance in VT_AIR mode on waypoint tiles https://git.io/fjl1Z
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15:07:59 <supermop_work> 4 days in a row of 14 hours at office
15:08:23 <supermop_work> sunday to wednesday. lets see if thursdays is as well
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15:32:17 <Samu> starting year must not be 2000 again
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16:56:29 <Samu> my mouse is faulty, and sometimes a right click is registered even though I'm holding down left click
16:56:43 <Samu> what is the problem here?
16:57:21 <nielsm> dirt or wear in the microswitches, most likely
16:58:07 <glx> mine does triple or quadruple click on the 3 buttons
17:00:43 <Samu> playing poe with it is annoying the hell out of me
17:01:18 <Samu> it doesn't register the clicks or once in a while i am doing attacking with the right click skill :|
17:01:54 <Samu> why do I destroy mouses so quickly lately?
17:02:13 <Samu> this one was bought back in january, it's already misbehaving
17:03:32 <glx> cheap or not cheap mouse ?
17:04:47 <Samu> i never considered a "gaming" mouse
17:05:02 <Samu> i wonder if they really have any quality to it, or it's just a gimmick
17:05:35 <Samu> I mean, do they last longer?, more resilient?
17:05:55 <glx> probably use better internal component
17:06:02 <nielsm> cheap mouses have definitely not lasted as long as more expensive ones for me
17:07:20 <nielsm> you can be quite sure cheap mice will save fractions of a penny on cheaper microswitches for the buttons, and those are rated for much fewer actuations
17:08:31 <glx> for typical desktop work they are OK I think
17:08:47 <nielsm> my previous mouse was a Rapoo wireless thing, and after a few months the wireless just broken completely and started sending or receiving garbage, I've never had that kind of problems with logitech
17:09:57 <nielsm> my current mouse of choice is a logitech mx master 2S, it's the only I've found that fits my giant hands well
17:10:09 <nielsm> and also has the features I want
17:10:42 <nielsm> (I started a trend at my workplace, after I got one there, several others tried it and had one of their own ordered too)
17:10:52 <glx> it was 25€ when I bougth it
17:11:38 <glx> probably one of the first "accessible" optical mouse
17:13:26 <Samu> i've been using so many mouses lately, they keep dying, i think i switch mouse 3 to 4 times a year
17:13:48 <Samu> it' usually the left click
17:14:05 <Samu> or the cursor jumping out abnormally
17:14:16 <glx> with the cost of 3 or 4 cheap mice by year, you should be able to get a better one ;)
17:14:44 <Samu> this mitsai one cursor movement is great
17:15:06 <Samu> left clicking is failing from a few days ago :( doesn't seem to get better
17:15:52 <glx> maybe not a gamer one, but at least a known brand
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17:17:50 <nielsm> never heard of that brand
17:42:42 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #7593: Null pointer dereference in ScriptOrder::GetOrderDistance in VT_AIR mode on waypoint tiles https://git.io/fjlFk
17:56:35 <Artea> Mitsai used to make DVDs
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19:36:39 <andythenorth> frosch123: do you think we could import musa to GH? :)
19:47:20 <Hazzard> I'm testing station rating stuff and it seems like the pickup station somehow knows about transfered cargo waiting at another station
19:47:32 <Hazzard> looking through the source code and can't find anything
19:47:39 <Hazzard> anyone know anything about that?
19:48:02 <andythenorth> recent issue about that in GH
19:51:09 <Samu_> Allow removal of more town-owned roads, bridges and tunnels
19:51:19 <Samu_> but towns don't build tunnels
19:55:19 <nielsm> Hazzard, it's done at the CargoPacket level
19:55:58 <Samu_> Round 22 about to start
19:56:01 <nielsm> each packet tracks which station it originated from, and counts towards the total_waiting amount on that station's GoodsEntry for the cargo type whenever it's waiting at a station
19:56:36 <nielsm> as far as I remember from my recent investigation in it :)
19:56:57 <Samu_> what happens if it waits too much?
19:57:10 <Samu_> cargo poofs? even after being transferred?
19:57:12 <Hazzard> I will look a bit more, thanks nielsm
19:58:16 <nielsm> Samu_: I believe cargo packets are only deleted if the total waiting at a station exceeds some amount, but not sure
19:58:41 <Samu_> cargo waiting isn't the same as cargo age?
19:59:34 <frosch123> andythenorth: there are some more tools in extra/
19:59:42 <Hazzard> why is github search so garbo guess I gotta actually clone
19:59:43 <frosch123> but yes, i need to look up svn->git tools
19:59:57 <frosch123> i only did svn->hg, and hg->git, but i don't want to take that route
20:00:10 <frosch123> hmm, actualy.. i think git had svn builtin
20:00:24 <nielsm> gitsvn is a common tool at least
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20:05:41 <andythenorth> GH might import it from SVN directly?
20:05:43 <andythenorth> or a remote repo?
20:05:56 <frosch123> i am already doing it
20:06:03 <frosch123> and no, i won't use gh stuff
20:06:56 <frosch123> i want proper authors and commit messages
20:20:21 <frosch123> i guess i can skip pngcodec
20:20:57 <Hazzard> seems it is the max waiting cargo among the stations rather than the total cargo waiting at all stations :?
20:42:58 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] MingweiSamuel commented on issue #7430: Vehicle waiting at station affects cargo age rating even if it did not pick up cargo https://git.io/fjlAa
20:51:16 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] dorobouNeko updated pull request #7573: Fix #7561: Remove assumption between power and cost https://git.io/fjnyI
20:55:34 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] MingweiSamuel opened pull request #7595: Possible fix for #7430: when train visits station, only reset time_since_pickup if has room to load https://git.io/fjlA7
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21:08:05 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] dorobouNeko updated pull request #7573: Fix #7561: Remove assumption between power and cost https://git.io/fjnyI
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22:39:04 <glx> oh master server was not imported yet ?
22:39:16 <frosch123> nothing from extra/ was imported
22:39:44 <andythenorth> first post needs updated, but it's TB's
22:40:30 <frosch123> i skipped importing pngcodec, old-old-old-compilefarm, semi-old-website and old(?)-balancer
22:41:14 <frosch123> those can stay in svn-archive :)
22:42:14 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] MingweiSamuel commented on issue #7592: Road vehicles don't balance between multiple loading bays https://git.io/fjlpi
22:44:06 <glx> andythenorth: a moderator can edit it
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