IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2018-07-30
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14:56:15 <andythenorth> waiting for 16 in / 16 out to be done
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15:04:43 <SpComb> 16 different types of engineering supplies?
15:14:27 <andythenorth> what is plural of yeti?
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17:00:04 <andythenorth> I guess nml needs patched next :)
17:00:06 <nielsm> frosch123: I think I'll make a separate PR for extended house cargo acceptance, without the callback support
17:01:41 <nielsm> andythenorth: I think my own test grf has already exercised the "basic" new properties, so it's all the callbacks that are interesting to test :D
17:02:23 <andythenorth> frosch123 how 'done' is nml -> github? o_O
17:06:08 <frosch123> there were no complains about the author mapping
17:06:20 <frosch123> so i guess the repo is fine, i need to look into issues
17:08:37 <andythenorth> I wondered if there are so few I could manually migrate them
17:08:46 <andythenorth> but I think not :P
17:09:17 <andythenorth> I looked for some that could easily be closed
17:09:32 <andythenorth> quite a lot are 'this is the roadmap' and just aren't that useful
17:10:02 <frosch123> if it works once it can be used for any devzone project
17:10:33 <andythenorth> I hadn't thought of that :P
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17:51:09 <frosch123> i think i need truebrain to whipser me the dorpsgek access token
17:51:58 <nielsm> rebase completed with just two conflicts to resolve!
18:00:32 <andythenorth> that will cause confusion at some point :D
18:00:39 <andythenorth> due to global vs local numberspace
18:01:34 <frosch123> it makes searching for old issues easier
18:01:44 <frosch123> should i add a "RM" or something?
18:03:11 <frosch123> i wonder whether planetmaker gets mails, when i link those issues to him
18:26:21 <FLHerne> Is there any documentation for the 'default' nml properties, i.e. the behaviour when no value is specified?
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18:27:29 <FLHerne> If NML just doesn't create action<n>s then it depends on OTTD behaviour, but I can't find that either
18:31:06 <nielsm> most things are based on "copy existing item and change properties"
18:31:13 <nielsm> so the defaults for everything is littered all over
18:31:24 <FLHerne> Default intro date seems to be '0', which surprised me a bit
18:31:49 <FLHerne> (I assumed it would be 1920 or something similarly weird)
18:32:00 <frosch123> vehicles have no defaults, you need to set all properties
18:32:29 <FLHerne> frosch123: That's clearly not true
18:32:39 <FLHerne> /* cargo_age_period is left at default */
18:32:56 <FLHerne> (unless the official demo files are completely wrong)
18:33:20 <frosch123> it's didactically true
18:33:22 <FLHerne> Oh, that one actually has a default listed on the list'o'props
18:34:17 <FLHerne> "Coefficient of the relative air drag, in arbitrary units. The default value is approximately (8 / max_speed), with max_speed in km/h, clamped to the range 0.004 .. 0.75."
18:34:32 <FLHerne> Now /that's/ the sort of arbitrarily absurd default I was expecting
18:35:27 <nielsm> I wonder why it's the burning towers and not the tanks on the oil refinery that accept oil...
18:36:02 <FLHerne> frosch123: Sadly, it's not useful for what I want to do with it
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18:37:08 <FLHerne> If someone starts editing a property that wasn't previously set, the initial value should obviously correspond to the behaviour with no value specified
18:38:25 <FLHerne> So apparently I need to go and read the source to figure out what those actually are...
18:40:20 <nielsm> frosch123: worth a try taking +R off the channel again?
18:42:46 <FLHerne> DanMacK: The freenode-mod-spam ones seem to be spreading
18:44:47 <nielsm> frosch123: the old industry tile accepts callbacks, should they add or replace tile acceptance? what if the "accepts everything industry itself accepts" flag is set?
18:46:27 <nielsm> I think "replace", including also effectively disabling the out the "accepts all"
18:46:36 <nielsm> disabling the "accepts all" flag
18:47:04 <frosch123> i wouldn't bother with them
18:47:32 <frosch123> they can only address the first 32 items in the cargo translation table, so what does it matter
18:50:19 <Alberth> FLHerne: just invent your own default settings
18:50:42 <FLHerne> Alberth: I should probably do that for now
18:52:02 <nielsm> like the reset.css files that set every single property on every single tag
19:01:47 <Alberth> sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't :)
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19:45:42 <Wolf01> Did something nice happen this weekend?
19:46:18 <Wolf01> an[tab][tab][tab]... where is the cat?
19:46:48 <frosch123> you need to wait for dm to leave, before cat can return
20:02:43 <Wolf01> Ok, now the cat should come in minutes
20:05:23 <Kippers> How do I make the git commit checker check my pull request once more?
20:06:06 <nielsm> Kippers: the ruble one?
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20:06:56 <nielsm> the issue now (which I forgot before) is that every commit indivudually must follow the style requirements, even if the style issues are fixed by a later commit
20:07:24 <nielsm> so you have to squash your commits together and force-push the branch to overwrite the original commit
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20:25:09 <andythenorth> ever broken the end off a big LA?
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20:25:51 <Wolf01> I tried to purchase the cardboard box only, but the seller didn't want to sell it without the Bugatti inside :D
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20:34:14 <Alberth> it's not the first time :p
20:35:51 <Kippers> nielsm Ok, so I have to do some git magic?
20:36:35 <Kippers> Gee, I sure don't hope future generations look to my repos as a shining example of how to do git
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21:11:37 <Kippers> Huh, I actually made git do what I wanted it to
21:14:49 <murr4y> git, not unlike a computer, does exactly what you tell it to do, regardless of what you want
21:22:59 <Kippers> It truly is both a blessing and a curse
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22:02:39 <andythenorth> just 81 more trains to draw for Horse
22:02:45 <andythenorth> and the ones I've forgotten to add
22:03:46 <Eddi|zuHause> as long as the overall trend is negative...
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23:32:57 <tigerman> how do you get cars and plaines an
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23:48:17 <frosch123> the bots woke up again :)
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