IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2018-07-31
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00:38:26 <Supercheese> not this again...
00:46:38 <debdog> prolly some discord (or such) guys trying to drive people away from IRC
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01:09:57 <ST2> well, maybe +R is needed again :(
01:11:21 <ST2> is peter1138 or LordAro or anyone with rights for it ^^
01:12:43 <ST2> oh, sorry the ping then :)
01:14:49 <ST2> I'm glad our servers use a small network that not attractive to spammers :D
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01:28:44 <ST2> it's a pain that unregistered nicks can't join, but all for the greater goo :)
02:06:21 <Kippers> If the alternative is bots spamming ads, then yeah
02:09:56 <ST2> well, big networks usually are the targets
02:10:50 <ST2> but, they filter by users on channels, far long I've seen
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16:38:21 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: planetmaker
16:40:08 <Alberth> luckily you are still you :)
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16:42:40 <Thedarkb-T60> Is there a way of logging the chat on my dedicated server?
16:42:57 <Eddi|zuHause> redirect it to a file?
16:43:16 <Thedarkb-T60> I'd rather be able to use the console.
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16:47:28 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know if it's the heat or my recent switching of graphics drivers, but i started getting some graphical glitches lately :/
16:49:52 <Thedarkb-T60> There were some allegedly quite abusive players on my server last night, how can I get their IP to ban them.
16:50:50 <Eddi|zuHause> look at the logs?
17:01:26 <Thedarkb-T60> Eddi|zuHause, Where can I find those?
17:03:50 <Eddi|zuHause> same place as the chat logs?
17:04:02 <Thedarkb-T60> Where are the chat logs, Eddi|zuHause ?
17:04:25 <Eddi|zuHause> in your console?
17:04:39 <Thedarkb-T60> Oh, I thought you meant there was a log file.
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17:12:46 <nielsm> there isn't any log-to-file feature?
17:13:34 <Thedarkb-T60> I hope there is.
17:13:41 <Thedarkb-T60> Grepping tmux scrollback is a PITA
17:13:42 <planetmaker> not in-built. That's what you have the admin port
17:14:09 <planetmaker> Connect to it, and log all events which possibly interest you
17:15:02 <Eddi|zuHause> i already suggested "tee"
17:15:17 <planetmaker> yeah, I saw. And it works great, too
17:15:31 <planetmaker> We did use that at coop prior to the invention of the admin port
17:16:38 <nielsm> seems silly to me that you'd need a separate application to save console logs to a file, when it's a standard feature of practically any other server application
17:17:45 <Eddi|zuHause> i guess that is historically grown, as openttd isn't natively a server application, but the server was somewhat tucked onto the existing client application
17:18:37 <LordAro> adding a very basic "also dump all console output to file" wouldn't be the most difficult thing in the world...
17:19:46 <nielsm> (also have the files rotate on either date or size, I'd suggest having a filename like openttd-listenaddr_port-yyyymmdd.log)
17:20:23 <Eddi|zuHause> but that would duplicate the behaviour of existing programs
17:20:40 <Eddi|zuHause> (tee and logrotate)
17:20:57 <LordAro> how well does tee work with stdin?
17:21:10 <planetmaker> as said, worked for a decade for coop
17:21:20 <Eddi|zuHause> tee only works on stdout, it lets stdin alone
17:22:31 <LordAro> logrotate is a bit tricky if you have file handles held open
17:22:52 <LordAro> the source programs have a tendency to not notice that files have been renamed/deleted
17:22:54 <Eddi|zuHause> need to implement SIGHOP?
17:23:43 <Eddi|zuHause> that, or the program needs to open/close the file on every write attempt
17:23:51 <Sacro> LordAro: logrotate can hadnle that
17:23:57 <Sacro> Copy file to new, truncate old
17:25:10 <Thedarkb-T60> I'll use tee in future
17:25:37 <Thedarkb-T60> My vanilla server won't reset for some reason.
17:25:40 <Thedarkb-T60> How do I do that?
17:25:50 <Thedarkb-T60> I mean, automate it.
17:33:10 <Thedarkb-T60> Sacro, automate resetting the map after 2050?
17:34:25 <Eddi|zuHause> that should be a setting
17:40:44 <Sacro> I dunno, I still use autopilot
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18:49:45 <Eddi|zuHause> i have no clue what i've done, but steam somehow lost its taskbar entry, and i can't get it back :/
18:50:36 <Taede> rightclickt he start menu entry, select pin to taskbar?
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18:56:37 <Thedarkb-T60> When will the mode +r requirement be lifted?
18:56:41 <Thedarkb-T60> When the spam stops?
18:56:59 <Eddi|zuHause> then the spam came back
18:58:29 <Thedarkb-T60> It's on Freenode, OFTC, QuakeNet and Rizon
18:58:44 <Thedarkb-T60> I think this spam has the potential to kill IRC.
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19:08:55 <Eddi|zuHause> irc is already on a looong decline...
19:59:21 <nielsm> does anyone know, did the greek guy give up on his daylength patch, or just decide one of the pre-existing solutions were good enough?
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20:11:23 <Wolf01> I hope he didn't get involved in the fires
20:19:13 <nielsm> hmm his forums profile says he hasn't posted for 7 days
20:19:22 <nielsm> otoh tt-forums isn't that massively active
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21:08:34 <andythenorth> tt-forums is over
21:08:44 <andythenorth> just waiting for new bananas
21:13:01 <planetmaker> it's good to have forums
21:13:11 <planetmaker> doesn't mean it has to be the place where real work is done :)
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