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08:35:10 <andythenorth> o/
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10:06:01 <peter1138> Hi
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10:23:44 <andythenorth> lo
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10:28:00 <peter1138> lo bob
10:28:20 <peter1138> So I would maybe do more branches tonight, but I gotta go see Bill Bailey instead </chore>
10:36:43 <andythenorth> for shame
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16:22:38 <supermop_work> yo
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16:32:41 <supermop_work> hi Alberth
16:32:48 <Alberth> hi hi
16:39:31 <peter1138> Hi
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18:13:42 <andythenorth> lo
18:14:08 <LordAro> ol
18:17:50 <andythenorth> so stations in tunnels?
18:18:46 <Alberth> o/
18:19:40 <Alberth> you're reading a random suggestion thread? :)
18:21:27 <andythenorth> I have an 8 year old :P
18:21:39 <andythenorth> I asked him what to put in next Horse
18:21:57 <andythenorth> he has invented instead a new way to do metros
18:22:28 <Thedarkb> I'm looking for a NewGRF with just a horse and cart.
18:22:32 <Thedarkb> Where can I get one?
18:22:56 <Thedarkb> I don't want it to be completely ship dominated from 1830 to about 1860 on my server.
18:27:47 <andythenorth> egrvts has horse and cart
18:27:50 <andythenorth> but also many other things
18:28:05 <Thedarkb> I just installed PolRoads.
18:28:16 <Thedarkb> The polish cars should fit in.
18:38:03 <Alberth> make subway industry :)
18:39:57 <peter1138> Time for...
18:40:02 <peter1138> You got it. Minecraft.
18:40:25 <andythenorth> is Bill Bailey in Minecraft? :o
18:41:43 <peter1138> Possibly.
18:41:47 <peter1138> Another day, another new snapshot.
18:48:49 <andythenorth> so who's drawing Horse for me? o_O
18:49:14 <andythenorth> [crickets]
18:59:39 <Alberth> horse can't draw itself, I guess :(
19:05:14 <andythenorth> I've tried teaching it
19:05:23 <andythenorth> I wondered about automating \ and / views :P
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19:10:49 <Wolf01> o/
19:14:58 <andythenorth> hi Wolf01
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19:43:40 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: cubicles!!
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19:46:05 <Wolf01> Eddi|zuHause: tes... better not, there might be children :P
19:51:29 <Wolf01> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=83308 I see no point on him trying to hide the fact that he changed grfs... when all we know that even the little change might have an effect after many hours of playing
20:05:31 <andythenorth> acs121 is mostly wrong about most things
20:05:45 <andythenorth> these things happen :P
20:14:28 <andythenorth> in \ / views, these shapes are....regrettable :| http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/iron-horse/push/LATEST/docs/html/trains.html#tank_car_pony_gen_6B
20:14:33 <Alberth> like the pixel tool by zephrys
20:15:18 <andythenorth> pixeltools is not very good for cylinders :)
20:15:24 <andythenorth> pixeltool
20:15:47 <Alberth> it gives you a start?
20:16:07 <Alberth> or is it so bad, you can just start from scratch again :p
20:16:16 <andythenorth> it's easier to just draw it
20:16:34 <andythenorth> in theory pixeltool can do it
20:16:36 <Alberth> seems plausible, once you know how to draw pixels
20:17:19 <Eddi|zuHause> if you automate it, you should automate it all the way, if you need touchups to every single sprite afterwards, it's probably pointless
20:17:46 <Alberth> I agree
20:18:01 <andythenorth> that's why I haven't automated drawing sprites
20:18:20 <andythenorth> seems like it might be twice the work, by the end
20:18:47 <andythenorth> I started on the / view here, but it's really bad https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/iron-horse/repository/entry/src/graphics/pony/tank_car_pony_gen_6C.png
20:19:40 <Eddi|zuHause> https://xkcd.com/2000/ <-- somehow i have no clue what half of these things are
20:21:07 <LordAro> Eddi|zuHause: explainxkcd.com
20:21:23 <Eddi|zuHause> nah, that's cheating
20:22:44 <LordAro> :p
20:23:52 <andythenorth> 'standard usb connector'
20:23:53 <andythenorth> :P
20:24:08 <Eddi|zuHause> well, that one has about a dozen layers to it :p
20:24:41 <Eddi|zuHause> like, you know, https://xkcd.com/927/
20:25:33 <andythenorth> https://xkcd.com/380/
20:26:31 <LordAro> https://xkcd.com/562/ <3
20:28:07 <Eddi|zuHause> recently i was scolded by an elderly woman who had trouble getting out of her car, because she didn't adhere to the parking spot lines, and blamed me for parking too close to her car
20:28:57 <Wolf01> :D
20:30:05 <Eddi|zuHause> and when i pointed her to what she did wrong, she just said "well nobody really pays attention to those..."
20:36:59 <andythenorth> true then, true now https://xkcd.com/1987/
20:38:00 <Eddi|zuHause> how long between this https://xkcd.com/353/ and that one?
20:43:26 <andythenorth> about 2 weeks
20:43:37 <andythenorth> depends how much stuff one pastes from Stack Overflow
20:44:42 <andythenorth> is there an XKCD about not pasting from Stack Overflow? o_O
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20:53:57 <frosch123> there is stacksort
20:54:18 <gelignite> not xkcd, but there is this one http://geek-and-poke.com/geekandpoke/2016/11/27/good-questions
20:54:46 <andythenorth> that got a lot of Horse drawn :P
20:55:36 <andythenorth> https://gkoberger.github.io/stacksort/
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21:37:40 <andythenorth> 1024
21:40:14 <Alberth> trains?
21:40:43 <andythenorth> 2048
21:40:49 <Alberth> oh :)
21:40:51 <andythenorth> started playing again
21:40:57 <andythenorth> got 2048 first time, on a fluke
21:41:02 <Alberth> it's too simple
21:41:03 <andythenorth> been trying again for a few days :P
21:41:17 <andythenorth> some days I need simple :P
21:41:32 <Alberth> I play patience games
21:47:35 <Eddi|zuHause> as in solitaire?
21:48:39 <Alberth> spider with a limited number of cards
21:49:07 <Alberth> ie 2 suits
21:49:43 <Eddi|zuHause> i play spider with 4 colours, but i haven't really played in a while
21:50:25 <Eddi|zuHause> most games are winnable, but some take a few times going back to the start
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21:56:10 <andythenorth> hmm
21:56:15 <andythenorth> not sure I understand spider :)
21:56:35 <Eddi|zuHause> it does have a learning curve
21:56:47 <Eddi|zuHause> start with one colour :p
21:58:06 <andythenorth> oh
21:58:10 <andythenorth> so it's not red-black :P
21:58:51 <Eddi|zuHause> no, you need to have columns of the same colour
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22:03:00 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, this looked like the worst spider start ever, and suddenly i have 2 empty slots?
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22:08:40 <andythenorth> ok that's quite fun on single suit
22:08:48 <andythenorth> is single suit 'always win'?
22:09:02 <Alberth> no, but most of the times it is
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22:13:53 <Eddi|zuHause> i have a really hard time coming up with an unwinnable one
22:14:17 <Eddi|zuHause> you can, however, easily screw it up
22:17:17 <andythenorth> single suit seems like you could get caught at the end
22:17:22 <andythenorth> with last cards out of deck
22:19:30 <Eddi|zuHause> it depends a bit on how strict your game client is
22:20:03 <Eddi|zuHause> like, you could have not enough cards to fill all the slots with at least one card, and the game would refuse to deal new cards with empty slots
22:21:26 <Eddi|zuHause> but that also is solvable if the game lets you undo enough
22:22:44 <Eddi|zuHause> otherwise you need some extremely crazy setup to have no moves after the last deal, in a way you can't prevent by putting the right cards below
22:24:12 <Eddi|zuHause> so, i won the 4-colour game
22:25:55 <andythenorth> maybe I should try 2 colour
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22:48:09 <andythenorth> 2 colour is harder :P
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23:06:14 <LANJesus> green and magenta. c'mon
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