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07:39:58  <Alberth> meep meep

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08:05:30  <Alberth> o/

08:11:48  <andythenorth> moin

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09:13:36  <andythenorth> added fruit ship

09:13:42  <andythenorth> for fruit, carrying of http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/unsinkable-sam/push/LATEST/docs/html/ships.html#fruit_veg_carrier_large

09:13:46  <andythenorth> also vegetables

09:16:58  <Alberth> is it by design that it looks so much like the refrigarated ship?

09:17:43  <Alberth> you'd expect it to be white-ish, wouldn't you?

09:18:36  <Alberth> perhaps drop the chimney at the front, and perhaps one side of the cranes on the deck? (or even, no cranes)

09:19:40  <Alberth> unless the refrigerated ship is a refurbishment of the veg carrier ship :)   little paint job, and done :)

09:20:35  <Alberth> hmm, white isn't much needed in a temperate climate I guess

09:22:19  <andythenorth> it's a repaint

09:22:27  <andythenorth> Horse & Hog do same :)

09:26:30  <andythenorth> now I need some smaller ships :(

09:32:54  <andythenorth> these ones are done http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/unsinkable-sam/push/LATEST/docs/html/ships.html

09:32:58  <andythenorth> should I make a 0.1 release? :P

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09:36:31  <Alberth> bit large for 1870 :)

09:37:47  <Alberth> definitely a general-purpose hull :D

09:43:23  <andythenorth> ships is ships :P

09:43:35  <andythenorth> they're all about the same, just the components move around

09:44:05  <andythenorth> I think it's a bit early to release

09:44:11  <andythenorth> lacks too much :P

09:47:46  <Alberth> second hull-type would be nice :)

09:48:34  <andythenorth> I need to finish a smaller one http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/unsinkable-sam/push/LATEST/docs/html/ships.html#bulk_carrier_small

09:48:53  <andythenorth> also there's a big river barge

09:49:03  <andythenorth> but I'm not sure about it

09:55:46  <Alberth> doesn't sound very good

09:55:58  <Alberth> unless you have very wide rivers :)

09:56:37  <Alberth> I disabled rivers a long time ago, too annoying

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10:08:26  <andythenorth> I guess the river barge is just a way to do a different hull

10:08:33  <andythenorth> it doesn't have any other significance

10:08:44  <andythenorth> dunno if it looks good though :P

10:12:31  <Alberth> yeah, water-type isn't that relevant in openttd :)

10:13:15  <Alberth> I often do small boat types for servicing islands

10:13:24  <andythenorth> there will be nice small boats in Sam

10:13:31  <andythenorth> they're harder to draw though :P

10:13:36  <andythenorth> they are just blobs :(

10:13:47  <Alberth> hmm, a very island-ish scenario, could be nice?

10:13:56  <andythenorth> this is the river boat http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/unsinkable-sam/push/LATEST/docs/html/ships.html#bulk_carrier_large

10:14:05  <andythenorth> it has same capacity as the ocean-looking ships

10:14:20  <andythenorth> but I think the sprite doesn't convey that information

10:14:49  <Alberth> it looks too big for a river thing

10:15:01  <Alberth> or your ocean things are too small

10:15:17  <andythenorth> it's too long and too wide imho

10:15:25  <andythenorth> and the hull could be deeper

10:15:28  <andythenorth> IRL barges https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Barge_Destin_on_the_river_Seine_002.JPG

10:15:49  <Alberth> width is just a single pixel?

10:16:01  <Alberth> too long, definitely

10:16:34  <Alberth> 3/4 or 2/3 of an ocean thing would be better

10:16:44  <andythenorth> FIRS dredging site https://www.goskagit.com/gallery/news/skagit-river-barge/collection_60acb22e-c63a-11e2-b613-0019bb2963f4.html

10:16:45  <andythenorth> :P

10:17:27  <Alberth> why would you have same capacity? it would make one of the ships useless, wouldn't it?

10:18:04  <Alberth> clearly carrying water supplies :D

10:18:54  <andythenorth> nah ships come in just a few sizes

10:19:15  <andythenorth> for any cargo, you pick the one you like the look of (refit permitting)

10:20:11  <Alberth> it does work like that :)

10:20:41  <andythenorth> the 'bulk' ship needs to look robust and chunky

10:21:12  <andythenorth> similar http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/iron-horse/push/LATEST/docs/html/static/img/dump_car_pony_gen_6C.png

10:21:22  <andythenorth> maybe more like this? http://www.virusphoto.com/262679-pousseur-de-barge-sur-la-seine.html

10:22:03  <Alberth> big square thing :)

10:22:23  <Alberth> or rather, rectangular

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10:44:51  <Wolf01> Moin

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10:45:07  <NGC3982> i forgot about this channel

10:45:07  <NGC3982> :|

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10:47:51  <Alberth> moin W

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11:07:27  <NGC3982> so, i have put so much hours into cities skylines, factorio and ksp now

11:07:29  <NGC3982> what next?

11:07:31  <andythenorth> ?

11:07:32  <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8843/bulkier_bulk.png

11:07:35  <NGC3982> im actually bored with all of them :(.

11:07:48  <Wolf01> Play astroneer

11:08:09  <Wolf01> They look really cool, andy

11:08:39  <NGC3982> astroneer looks cool!

11:08:44  <andythenorth> does the 'bulk' look same capacity as 'freighter'?

11:09:26  * NGC3982 buys

11:10:19  <LordAro> NGC3982: all 3 of those have extensive modding communities

11:11:17  <NGC3982> LordAro: yeah, i know. i have also explored quite a bit of all the mods

11:11:41  * andythenorth bbl

11:11:44  <andythenorth> such ships

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11:12:10  <NGC3982> ksp modding is cool but has so much version dependecy issues. cities skylines has cool mods, but i spent so many hours with mods i returned to vanilla, and factorio is ..factorio.

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12:19:35  <Eddi|zuHause> the moment i looked into KSP mods it practically killed the game for me

12:21:06  <Eddi|zuHause> i spent all the time debugging mod issues, and none of the time playing

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13:45:48  <Eddi|zuHause> so, i started TF after ages, tried to load my game, it spent way too long loading, and then crashed with a protection fault

13:49:32  <Eddi|zuHause> nope, again crashed on loading the game :/

13:49:55  <Eddi|zuHause> is it not meant to load old games?

13:50:02  <Wolf01> It should

13:51:15  <Eddi|zuHause> nope, also crashing on new games

13:51:33  <Wolf01> Some weird mod?

13:51:47  <Eddi|zuHause> no mods as far as i remember

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14:01:24  <Eddi|zuHause> so much for that game :/

14:03:15  <Wolf01> Quak

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14:03:32  <frosch123> moi

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14:30:28  <andythenorth> o/

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14:35:34  <Samu> hi

14:47:09  <Eddi|zuHause> i have a feeling nothing works today :/

14:48:14  <Wolf01> I'm updating a new game on the wii u, it's saying 5 minutes since 11:20

14:48:45  <Wolf01> It's not even at 50%

14:56:14  <andythenorth> shame the wii u failed

14:56:18  <andythenorth> it's a really nice platform

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15:00:22  <Wolf01> They didn't even belive in it, I only purchased 4 games, included the one bundled, and 2 of them are lego ones

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15:09:09  <Eddi|zuHause> so, i try to start civ6, and then the computer locks up for minutes. afterwards civ6 is gone, all swap is used, and all memory is free

15:11:27  <Eddi|zuHause> also, i tried to disable systemd-coredump like 50 times in the past few years, because it always locks up at 100%

15:11:39  <Eddi|zuHause> and it never works

15:13:44  <Samu> where is cubey

15:17:05  <Wolf01> Just use windows to play games

15:17:06  <Wolf01> :P

15:18:11  <Eddi|zuHause> i tried that, windows wouldn't install

15:18:32  <TrueBrain> you sound like Marvin

15:18:47  <Wolf01> XD

15:23:58  <Alberth> :D

15:29:39  <andythenorth> I could just do http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8844/bulkier_bulk_2.png

15:29:45  <andythenorth> reuse the same ship hull again

15:31:17  <andythenorth> I tried lots of variations (on right of the spritesheet) http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/unsinkable-sam/repository/revisions/f9689b1f535b/entry/src/graphics/ships/bulk_carrier_large_template.png

15:37:57  <andythenorth> bbl

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15:44:36  <supermop> yo

15:49:51  <Samu> @seen Cubey

15:49:51  <DorpsGek> Samu: Cubey was last seen in #openttd 19 hours, 49 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <Cubey> dir /s/b > listfile.txt and then find and replace away the parts of the paths with spaces

15:49:59  <Samu> t.t

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16:44:21  <Samu> I did it!

16:44:24  <Samu> https://pastebin.com/raw/W2Updr7W

16:44:32  <Samu> too bad cubey isn't online

16:45:46  <Samu> doesn't store empty directories though

16:46:17  <Samu> oh, echo del is to be changed to del

16:59:26  <Samu> so bored

17:01:17  * Samu just compressed andythenorth last .png linked, from 39,6 KB (40.626 bytes) to 20,8 KB (21.312 bytes) using paq8px_v138

17:01:35  * TrueBrain just took a dump

17:05:05  <LordAro>  TrueBrain: compression!

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17:05:10  <LordAro> of sorts

17:05:15  <TrueBrain> owh, it was compressed!

17:05:47  <TrueBrain> it was 300 grams of pork, now it was 12 grams of pure shit

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17:06:23  <LordAro> not sure we needed that level of detail

17:06:36  <TrueBrain> I wondered the same with what Samu said ...

17:06:58  <LordAro> ah, but Samu is Samu

17:09:33  <Samu> sorry, i'm a bit bored, waiting for the aircraft ai tests to finish

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18:34:33  <Eddi|zuHause> and my ignorelist is my ignorelist

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20:23:23  <andythenorth> o/

20:32:45  <andythenorth> so what boat am I drawing?

20:33:04  <Eddi|zuHause> the enterprise?

20:34:11  <andythenorth> this one? https://wallscover.com/images/star-trek-enterprise-4.jpg

20:34:29  <Eddi|zuHause> for example

20:34:37  <Eddi|zuHause> loads to choose from :p

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20:35:49  <andythenorth> wondering if a tugboat + barge will look good

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20:42:18  <andythenorth> https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/coal-barge-paris-seine-river-48405038.jpg

20:45:43  <Wolf01> Articulated ships

20:49:06  <andythenorth> not needed :P)

20:55:08  <LordAro> andythenorth: http://www.treknews.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/stid-trailer-enterprise.jpg looks like a boat to me

20:56:46  <andythenorth> bit random

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20:57:30  <LordAro> https://cdn3.whatculture.com/images/2013/05/TheTallShipRises.jpg better picture

20:58:39  <andythenorth> does it crash into the sea?

20:58:45  <andythenorth> my trek knowledge is very outdated

20:58:56  <andythenorth> weds 6pm BBC2, NG

20:59:00  <andythenorth> is all I remember

20:59:02  <LordAro> haha

20:59:11  <LordAro> is from Into Darkness

20:59:24  <andythenorth> British people of a certain age will know exactly what 6pm Weds BBC2 means

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21:19:13  <frosch123> http://hg.openttd.org/trunk.hg/file/5df1674182c3/src/os/windows/ottdres.rc.in#l82 <- glx: what is the effect of the revision number in FILEVERSION and PRODUCTVERSION?

21:19:20  <frosch123> what would break if it was always zero?

21:20:59  <glx> I think it doesn't really matter

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21:22:02  <frosch123> ok, so we can just drop it

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21:52:09  <andythenorth> so http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8845/bulkier_bulk_3.png

21:52:12  <andythenorth> push barge?

21:52:26  <andythenorth> per https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/coal-barge-paris-seine-river-48405038.jpg

21:52:39  <andythenorth> or I can do the easy route http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8844/bulkier_bulk_2.png

22:07:40  <andythenorth> hmm

22:09:33  <andythenorth> relative sizing

22:09:34  <andythenorth> pita

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22:34:52  <Wolf01> I do 'night

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