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00:02:15  <Eddi|zuHause> what would a negative value achieve? that you get money by buying shares?

00:03:08  <Eddi|zuHause> imho, it should only consider assets, money and loan is irrelevant

00:03:43  <Eddi|zuHause> maybe assets+x*(yearly profit)

00:03:57  <Eddi|zuHause> where x is an arbitrary value

00:05:48  <m3henry> If the purchaser of the shares also inherits a proportional share of the debt, that would make sense

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00:07:05  <ST2> I bet m3henry works on a bank :D

00:07:33  <m3henry> that way purchasing shares of a company with negative value wouldn't increase the value of the purchaser

00:07:52  <m3henry> lol

00:09:11  <m3henry> But when purchasing a negative value company, you're essentially agreeing to pay the liabilities owed by the company in exchange for the assests it holds

00:12:31  <Eddi|zuHause> mind that i'm not an expert in stock market, and i hate stock market features in a game like this

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00:28:56  <Kalaskow> Hello! Anyone tried compiling OpenTTD on MVS 2017?

00:29:30  <sim-al2> I did

00:29:34  <sim-al2> didn't go well

00:31:08  <Kalaskow> getting some 1083s on, what looks like the essentials files :/

00:31:15  <sim-al2> yeah

00:31:19  <sim-al2> that was the problem I had

00:31:42  <Kalaskow> are those supposed to be packed into zips?

00:31:58  <Kalaskow> no wonder it cant find them :/

00:32:40  <sim-al2> did you download both of the "useful" files mentioned on the wiki page?

00:33:06  <sim-al2> IIRC one is a library and the other for music

00:33:38  <Kalaskow> only sources.. do i need those headers as well?

00:33:43  <Kalaskow> (also music, yes)

00:34:00  <sim-al2> the headers are suppsoed to already be included in VS

00:34:11  <sim-al2> if you look in the file structure they're defintely there

00:34:30  <sim-al2> I don't understand why the program can't see them though

00:34:32  <ST2> https://www.openttd.org/en/download-openttd-useful - version 5.1

00:34:38  <ST2> http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/games/openttd/binaries/extra/openttd-useful/6.0/index.html - version 6.0

00:35:12  <ST2> maybe 6.0 not finished yet

00:35:33  <ST2> I still use VS 2013 ^^

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00:38:13  <Kalaskow> do i need a $ infront of (working directory) ?

00:38:31  <Kalaskow> Uhm (WorkFolder) i meant

00:46:41  <Kalaskow> K... changed to absolute Paths

00:46:45  <Kalaskow> seems so work now

00:46:58  <ST2> with 5.1 or 6?

00:48:15  <Kalaskow> 5.1

00:48:26  <ST2> good good :)

00:49:02  <Kalaskow> k.. it compiled... lets see if it launches :D

00:49:17  <sim-al2> hmmm should try that

00:50:07  <ST2> and now sim-al2 saw the light xD

00:50:37  <Kalaskow> :/

00:50:45  <Kalaskow> "No available language packs"

00:50:58  <ST2> under "bin" folder

00:51:30  <ST2> put the "lang" folder on the binaries/executables

00:51:54  <Kalaskow> i better copy all the folders there, right?

00:51:56  <ST2> folder

00:52:10  <ST2> nah, "lang" will do

00:52:16  <Kalaskow> kk

00:52:27  <ST2> ofc, depends on how you're making it

00:52:41  <Kalaskow> didnt change the makefile

00:53:03  <ST2> I usually copy a working OpenTTD folder, and replace what I need there :)

00:53:33  <Kalaskow> ok.. got it running

00:53:34  <Kalaskow> nice

00:54:21  <ST2> I usually have the openttd.cfg file on the executable folder too - that way you can run different instances with different settings

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00:55:53  <Kalaskow> ill go with a single instance for now :)

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14:11:02  <Borg> da fuck with that spammers...

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14:12:39  <LordAro> mm

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14:13:54  <Progman> I set user mode +Gj because of this ;)

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14:22:57  <Borg> nah..

14:23:02  <Borg> one incident.. not big deal..

14:23:38  <Borg> but still... IRC is damn niche....

14:23:41  <Borg> yet.. they hit it too

14:23:50  <Borg> go spam FB or Twitter

14:24:56  <Borg> ban list quite big here :)

14:44:53  <Borg> okey.. im happy w/ my GRF Industry stuff...

14:45:11  <Borg> works nice :) its interesting and not so easy/predictable..

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16:26:08  <Kalaskow> Someone got a link to the 6.0 useful files?

16:29:21  <Borg> now.. changed how Bank works.. its production is linked to city size :)

16:29:36  <supermop> decided not to go into work

16:30:00  <supermop> snow not that bad, but no one else was going in

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17:00:57  <Eddi|zuHause> and they just let you do that?

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19:21:36  <supermop> well if the boss doesn't go in, but also doesn't close the office, and leaves it up to the individual...

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19:24:35  <Wolf01> o/

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19:40:02  <Wolf01> I'm rekt

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19:45:47  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27958 trunk/src/lang/spanish_MX.txt (2018-01-04 19:45:39 +0100 )

19:45:48  <DorpsGek> -Update from Eints:

19:45:49  <DorpsGek> spanish (mexican): 26 changes by Absay

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19:54:14  <Samu> EpicTrans is surprisingly doing well

19:54:40  <Samu> low number of ops helps him not spend the money that quickly

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20:00:07  <andythenorth> o/

20:00:27  <supermop> yo andy

20:02:05  <andythenorth> what to do about NRT eh

20:02:15  <andythenorth> option 1: nothing

20:07:33  <supermop> make a new fork called YesRoadTypes?

20:08:16  <supermop> or just ship it

20:09:32  <Eddi|zuHause> Vorwärts immer, Stillstand nimmer!

20:09:49  <supermop> yep

20:10:02  <supermop> is nimmer a real word?

20:11:19  <andythenorth> can't ship it

20:11:41  <supermop> idea: types are ranked by whatever order they are enumerated in or something, allow upgrading of town-owned types to equal or higher compatible types

20:11:52  <supermop> then the upgrading thing is sort of fixed

20:12:00  <supermop> fix the other stuff next year

20:16:18  <frosch123> supermop: yes, but only in southern dialects or austrian

20:17:25  <frosch123> otoh, maybe it's just "old"

20:17:35  <frosch123> possibly both :p

20:18:13  <frosch123> it's part of various fixed names and phrases

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20:18:22  <Eddi|zuHause> actually it wasn't "stillstand" it was "rückwärts"

20:19:16  <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not entirely sure, but i think Honecker was originally from the Saarland

20:19:27  <frosch123> supermop: if you know the children book "the very hungry caterpillar", the german name is "raupe nimmersatt"

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20:48:36  <andythenorth> and then he had a stomach ache

20:58:02  <Borg> server up.. 3 players already :)

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21:12:57  <andythenorth> could we implement the catenary part of BGT?

21:13:03  <andythenorth> keeping it in the NRT branch, to test?

21:16:25  <Wolf01> +1

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21:37:59  <andythenorth> Wolf01: want to try it?

21:38:07  <Wolf01> I'm rekt

21:38:30  <Wolf01> Maybe on the weekend

21:38:31  <andythenorth> got a merge conflict with trunk right now

21:38:47  <andythenorth> CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in src/script/api/game_changelog.hpp

21:38:52  <andythenorth> CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in src/script/api/ai_changelog.hpp

21:38:56  <LordAro> heh

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21:51:16  <Wolf01> Get the trunk versions

21:58:48  <andythenorth> just needs a manual merge of versions

21:59:44  <andythenorth> I don't understand the changelog format though :)

21:59:47  <andythenorth> so not tonight

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23:19:41  <Wolf01> 'night

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