IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2017-11-13
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00:23:10 <Samu> holy crap, i can stop an helicopter during flight
00:23:41 <Samu> i'm wondering if bugs like this are ever reported
00:43:20 <Samu> there's an invisible in-the-air stopping points for helicopters, as if the plane was already on land
00:43:46 <Samu> while they're waiting there, i can stop them
00:45:27 <Samu> doesn't happen on all airport types
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13:29:24 <peter1138> Okay that's pretty cool
13:55:39 <Samu> helicopters can be stopped in the air when landing in some airports
13:55:58 <Samu> they've not completely landed yet, but can be stopped :(
13:59:23 <Samu> must learn what state machines or whatever work
14:00:04 <Samu> Finite sTate mAchine (FTA) of an airport.
14:00:27 <LordAro> i believe i saw an existing bug report about that
14:00:50 <LordAro> finite state automata (FSA) is the usual term
14:08:06 <Samu> all the TTD airports + metropolitan, aren't bugged
14:08:46 <Samu> the others added afterwards can stop helis on the air
14:09:03 <Samu> but i'm gonna make sure of this one more time
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16:43:37 <Samu> where do I find each airport layout, can't find
16:44:31 <Samu> the game is pulling layout data out from somewhere, where are they
16:48:23 <Samu> aha, airport_movement.h, thx
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17:12:43 <Alberth> nah, it's just four letters
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19:31:02 <Wolf01> Did they need to move their entire rolling stock in one time?
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19:48:59 <Thedarkb> What happened to Server 3?
19:49:07 <Thedarkb> I used to play it exclusively
20:03:37 <Alberth> we don't have a server 3
20:04:02 <Alberth> maybe you can try it with one of the owners of the site/server
20:05:32 <Samu> i discovered where the problem arises, for the helidepot
20:05:56 <Samu> line 772, airport_movement.h
20:06:31 <Samu> it assumes the helicopter has landed, but it's still in the air
20:06:43 <Samu> that's why I can stop it :(
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20:45:27 <supermop_> i still am enjoying this photo of a 747 wearing a lei from last week
20:49:45 <Thedarkb> Alberth, There used to be a server 3.
20:49:57 <Thedarkb> It was vanilla with FIRS.
20:50:48 <supermop_> Thedarkb: Openttd.org does not run any game servers
20:52:02 <Thedarkb> Is this not the subreddit's chat?
20:52:20 <Wolf01> This is the official ottd chat
20:52:23 <Thedarkb> Oh shit, yeah, they moved to discord.
20:55:10 <Thedarkb> Oh yeah, that's the one.
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21:07:42 <andythenorth> Wolf01: pretty accurate
21:08:00 <andythenorth> so basically, at all tiers so far, it's a dice roll whether you get a good team or not
21:08:09 <andythenorth> mostly, good team = win
21:08:24 <andythenorth> two good teams is rare, and interesting
21:08:48 <Wolf01> There is plain deathmatch?
21:09:20 <andythenorth> it's all 7-against-7 afaict
21:09:24 <andythenorth> there might be other modes for clans
21:09:36 <andythenorth> I'm playing non-clan random play
21:09:59 <andythenorth> online MP is a whole new world for andythenorth :P
21:10:25 <Wolf01> I only play coop vs AI or deathmatch
21:10:52 <andythenorth> I never played anything like quake arena
21:10:53 <Wolf01> (when ping allows me to play)
21:11:16 * andythenorth played a lot of LAN tournament games, but that's with known people :)
21:12:41 <Wolf01> I played Q3A a lot, I wasn't a pro but I knew how to rocket jump
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21:30:03 <V453000> team games can get really fucked up due to those things andythenorth
21:30:31 <andythenorth> it's pretty much a dice roll
21:30:41 <V453000> and at the same time that jackpot moment when you have a great team and great opponents is so awesome to experience, but it's so rare I feel like it's basically gambling with yourself
21:30:43 <andythenorth> quite similar to playing roulette in vegas
21:31:10 <andythenorth> the time of day seems to matter
21:31:17 <andythenorth> every game I played this morning had good players
21:31:27 <V453000> it even happened to me that I was basically playing some heroes of newerth back in the day for several hours straight, sometimes literally the whole day, just going from shitty game to another, just to eventually realize that I'm not really enjoying playing it
21:31:42 <andythenorth> V453000 wondering when same will happen to me :)
21:31:52 <andythenorth> it's just a kind of gambling :)
21:32:01 <andythenorth> but learning the tank skills is fun
21:32:09 <V453000> eventually I started watching professional matches which basically provided me with the ultimate level of complexity and interesting level, but removed the sad parts
21:32:19 <V453000> ofc it's not your own involvement but it was good
21:32:20 <andythenorth> Wolf01: now it's Euro evening, it's much worse again :P
21:32:45 <andythenorth> I've only been playing since Saturday, but already the noob moves are pissing me off :P
21:33:11 <andythenorth> when you've play a map 60 times and you know some tactics are flawed on it :P
21:33:47 <V453000> I saw world of tanks once being played
21:33:54 <V453000> all the people lined up behind each other for some reason
21:34:04 <V453000> they continued being in some formation for the next 20 minutes
21:34:13 <V453000> I closed the video :D
21:34:17 <V453000> was pro match allegedly
21:34:29 <andythenorth> there are good and bad lines
21:34:46 <andythenorth> noobies form lemming lines
21:34:56 <andythenorth> leaving all flanks exposed and not covering each other
21:35:27 <andythenorth> when you see a lemming line at game start, there's nothing to do but wait for your game to be lost
21:35:36 <andythenorth> then your win rate goes down :P
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21:38:10 <V453000> I always fought my games to the very end
21:38:24 <V453000> it's debatable which approach makes you hate it more :D
21:47:51 <supermop_> reminds me of playing bf42 with people running the carrier aground
21:48:15 <supermop_> no one repairing your tank
21:48:44 <supermop_> someone driver the destroyer off the map
21:48:56 <debdog> oh noes, do not remind me... battlelog.co is about to shut down
21:49:22 <Wolf01> And starcraft 2 is about to become F2P
21:49:25 <supermop_> call in in artillery as a scout - no one is in the artillery
21:49:44 <supermop_> sit in the artillery - no one is calling in strikes
21:51:14 <supermop_> sit in the back of a dive bomber - pilot flies the plane CFIT
21:51:54 <supermop_> spawn on the carrier, someone else launches the landing craft without any passengers and you have to swim to shore
21:52:30 <supermop_> was still a lot of fun
21:52:48 <glx> but should be way more fun with real coop
21:53:09 <supermop_> also occasionally would have a good tank game on one of the north africa maps
21:53:46 <supermop_> where you'd get a column of 4 or so tanks with engineers and everyone working together
21:54:01 <Alkel_U3> I hear Nuclear Dawn is nice to play. Has relatively small userbase of mostly competent people on average
21:54:24 <supermop_> never had a good cooperative game in bfv
21:54:41 <supermop_> also i kept crashing the migs
21:54:50 <supermop_> but the music was goo
21:56:24 <supermop_> bfbc i got really good with the 40mm grenades
21:56:41 <supermop_> chasing after some badge
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22:52:55 <V453000> No, I'm banned from the NewGRF wiki.
22:54:28 <frosch123> V453000: probably because of the :) in your username
22:56:03 <V453000> well I'm not banned from anywhere
22:58:00 <frosch123> also, i am at 15% faster, and there is still more potential
23:01:16 <andythenorth> more battery life?
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23:06:27 <Samu> i can't visualize these movement in my head
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