IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2017-04-29
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00:04:06 <RedirectLeft> someone replied before I did :(
00:04:32 <RedirectLeft> One time i try to be helpful :p
00:04:54 <ST2> that will double the chances of him/her read the solution xD
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02:26:32 <quiznilo> I have a question, does it make any difference to anything if cargo is sitting on a dock waiting to be picked up, or sitting in a car of a train that's idling in the station, waiting for a full load?
02:27:26 <quiznilo> I'm wondering if I shouldn't bother 'waiting for a full load' on some of these trains
02:31:56 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, cargo only "ages" if it's in a vehicle
02:32:16 <Eddi|zuHause> but beware that rating will drop if you have no vehicle loading
02:32:39 <Eddi|zuHause> so you get overall less cargo to transport if you don't use full load at the source station
02:33:09 <Eddi|zuHause> and at intermediate stations, you need to keep rating above 50% or cargo will disappear
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13:23:35 <Wolf01> V453000, just one thing, would it be possible to craft instantly the items in sandbox and without using any resource?
13:24:08 <V453000> you can enable cheat mode in sandbox, no?
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13:39:19 <Alberth> so PULP was a false positive?
13:46:01 <andythenorth> didn’t really work
13:46:08 <andythenorth> but I’m adding PEAT :P
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14:06:54 <Alberth> let's wait a while until you decided it works :)
14:21:14 <frosch123> was it just fiction?
14:23:56 <Wolf01> V453000, isn't possible yet to make a splitter with circuit control? I must use the old contraption with centrifuges?
14:25:13 <frosch123> did the splitter separation ever work reliably for you?
14:25:27 <frosch123> i made the experience that they run for a few hours, and then randomly break
14:25:48 <Wolf01> But you must not overload them
14:26:08 <frosch123> yeah, something like that
14:26:23 <frosch123> i.e. if something breaks down and stuff gets stuck, then suddenly everything breaks :)
14:28:50 <Wolf01> I'm trying contraptions with circuits disabling one output belt while reading the input belt, but it breaks every 3 items
14:30:04 <Wolf01> The problem is that one wrong item always gets stuck in the splitter
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15:04:25 <V453000> just use inserters for filtering :)
15:13:22 <__ln__> what's this centrifuge talk, are you any chance trying to produce plutonium?
15:14:44 <Wolf01> BTW, I should start to get the uranium
15:20:49 <frosch123> __ln__: funnily they don't. for some reason they went u235 only, though u238 would have been way more fun
15:27:23 <Eddi|zuHause> i always forget which one you actually are trying to filter for with centrifuges
15:27:53 <frosch123> u235 is the rare one with the reactors that produce little weapon-usable stuff
15:28:15 <frosch123> u238 is the common one with the highly efficient reactor with lots of byproducts
15:28:50 <frosch123> since u238 is unfashionable to use, it is just used as heavy metal
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15:40:06 <Wolf01> I tried with a pulse of -(count) but I got -1.5G then 4G then 250M then -324M etc
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16:53:53 <frosch123> didn't cargos used to have some hint "produced in assembling maching 1/2/3"?
16:58:36 <Wolf01> Strange, I thought the same thing yesterday
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17:45:43 <quiznilo> kk, what is the hotkey for minimap... 'm'
17:46:00 <quiznilo> I have to learn these hotkeys... all of them
17:46:20 <Wolf01> They are almost all the same for every game
17:47:11 <quiznilo> I play Eve Online and ottd
17:47:38 <Wolf01> Except my games, where I use the numpad and arrows to do stuff like moving the camera
17:48:59 <frosch123> so wolf hates notebook users :p
17:49:38 <Wolf01> No, I'm not ready to control the camera with the mouse yet
17:50:38 <quiznilo> there needs to be a hotkey for 'message history'
17:50:57 <quiznilo> I discovered <del> hotkey by accident... was at a bad time though
17:51:21 <frosch123> quiznilo: check hotkeys.cfg in your ottd folder
17:52:07 <Wolf01> Not that a window which shows the configured hotkeys is a waste
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18:02:46 <Wolf01> Remove desert in scenario editor Landscape -> Desert tool -> Ctrl + click tile <- so it's possible XD
18:04:07 <frosch123> yep, i once considered adding that function, and discovered that it already existed
18:04:34 <Wolf01> (considered to add the function)
18:05:05 <Wolf01> I really think the game needs some UI overhaul to un-hide those features
18:06:11 <Wolf01> Or maybe alternative toolbers like the signal toolbar
18:09:39 <Wolf01> So, if I have an address like "foobar@gmail.com", does "foobar@google.com" works too? Because I was sure to have set the wrong domain and I still got the activation email, twice, both from @gmail.com
18:11:18 <frosch123> just send a mail to it, and check whether it arrives
18:13:10 <frosch123> hmm, what provides blue science?
18:13:27 <frosch123> i selected something for research, but it needs blue science, which i do not have
18:13:32 <frosch123> so what do i need to research instead?
18:15:24 <frosch123> advanced electronics
18:15:44 <frosch123> i clicked on every research :p was there a better method?
18:17:08 <Wolf01> Blue tier researches should not be active until you can actually produce the blue kits (also every other colour)
18:18:49 <Wolf01> Ok, I found something WEIRD on the interwebs...
18:19:11 <Wolf01> Totally related to this channel
18:19:38 <frosch123> there was also that other slugcat game, i guess V's minions take over
18:19:57 <frosch123> oh wait, this is a snailcatr
19:45:45 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27861 trunk/src/lang/swedish.txt (2017-04-29 19:45:37 +0200 )
19:45:47 <DorpsGek> swedish: 49 changes by Joel_A
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20:37:54 <frosch123> haha, so coal liquefacation uses heavy oil to transform coal into even more heavy oil
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21:03:40 <andythenorth> lego are researching bricks from wheat
21:03:45 <andythenorth> naptha can be made from peat
21:04:01 <andythenorth> seems carbon-containing material is quite mutable :P
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21:26:47 <Alberth> lego production industry :p
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22:16:49 <Alkel_U3> ok, velry low sprite resolution of factorio is pretty ridiculous but seems like I don't have much choice on this old machine :-)
22:32:31 <andythenorth> does peat extraction need engineering supplies, or farm supplies? o_O
22:32:37 <andythenorth> forests are farm supplies
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22:45:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd say engineering
22:46:15 <Eddi|zuHause> but i know nothing about it
22:46:42 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe farm is more consistent
22:47:02 <Eddi|zuHause> farm for primary, engineering for secondary industries
22:47:36 <Eddi|zuHause> probably not helpful
22:49:43 <andythenorth> probably engineering
22:49:59 <andythenorth> one doesn’t apply fertiliser and stuff to peatlands
22:50:03 <andythenorth> one just digs it up
22:57:36 <frosch123> "forks" sound like "engineering supplies" :)
23:02:52 <frosch123> apparently finland has a lot of peat
23:09:01 <Alkel_U3> I was to a former peat extraction area, there was a lot of heavy machinery rusting all around (mostly vehicles)
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