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00:42:54 <Wolf01> \o/ I'm 224 now
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01:04:32 <Wolf01> 'night
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11:50:16 <Wolf01> o/
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12:34:07 <__ln__> should the news headlines in the games be upgraded for 2017?
12:34:25 <__ln__> i mean, there could be fake news and alternative facts in them.
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12:45:11 <Wolf01> Nice idea
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13:37:06 <andythenorth> supermop: http://mirokurcik.tumblr.com/
13:37:09 <Wolf01> o/
13:38:58 <crem> \o
13:44:39 <peter1138> http://lh5.ggpht.com/abramsv/SDPouAM92mI/AAAAAAAARiU/5I1NkWmzXcE/s1600-h/002_dom.jpg
13:44:42 <peter1138> o_O
13:45:51 <andythenorth> good eh
13:46:10 <andythenorth> I’d be wary of that in a strong wind
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14:27:52 <peter1138> like today
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15:21:04 <Wolf01> andythenorth, you don't have idea of how fun are 12x31054 plus some other parts XD
15:21:15 <andythenorth> o_O
15:21:32 <Wolf01> I'm making locomotives and wagons
15:21:58 <Wolf01> I'm at 6 locomotives and 1 huge pax wagon
15:22:11 <Wolf01> All of them can be split and combined in different ways
15:22:39 <andythenorth> Wolf01: also, noticed the door sticker? o_O https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/658/32274670160_858d5c4e36_b.jpg
15:23:00 <Wolf01> That's made for me :D
15:24:43 <Wolf01> No more suggestions about what is IR-controlled on that beast?
15:25:08 <andythenorth> drive, steer, outriggers, rotation, luffing, winch
15:25:26 <andythenorth> 2 gearbox selectors to switch between them
15:25:32 <Wolf01> Nice
15:25:38 <andythenorth> there’s video on EB of it
15:25:45 <andythenorth> showing functions in use
15:27:37 <Wolf01> Btw, I MUST purchase it, no matter the cost, it resembels too much the Mc Leach's truck from Bianca&Bernie, one of my favourite vehicles from when I was a kid
15:28:54 <Wolf01> http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130124183144/disney/images/e/e6/Bushwacker.png
15:29:00 <andythenorth> my kids have decided it’s essential
15:29:18 <andythenorth> but it will be too big, and the functions will be weak :x
15:29:19 <andythenorth> nvm
15:33:50 <supermop__> andythenorth: nice
15:35:25 <supermop__> my tumblr is basically just my wife and then 6 brutalism tumblrs
15:37:33 <supermop__> andythenorth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolleybus#/media/File:Tetley_Bitter_Advert_on_Bradford_Trolleybus_Cropped.jpg
15:38:20 <andythenorth> isn’t it
15:38:24 <andythenorth> bring back pikka
15:38:35 <andythenorth> he probably likes trollybobbuses
15:38:54 <supermop__> not sure they have any down there
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16:05:44 <supermop__> the sloped windshild of 3rd gen ogfx RVs really kinda bugs me
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16:56:45 <Alberth> hi hi
16:57:01 <supermop__> HI Alberth
17:03:37 <supermop__> no ogfx+rvss use 2nd cc, but seems like they could
17:05:24 <Wolf01> o/
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17:10:36 <Wolf01> andythenorth: http://bricksafe.com/files/Wolf01/MOCs/combinable-mocs/31054-31055-31060-convoy.png
17:12:50 <andythenorth> such trains
17:14:03 <Wolf01> http://zusammengebaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/lego-creator-blue-express-train-31054-2017-3-in-1-box-rueckseite-zug.jpg the official ones :P
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17:25:10 <Alberth> o/
17:26:40 <supermop__> oooh a pikka
17:26:50 <Pikka> whence?
17:27:02 <supermop__> andythenorth: you have magic powers i guess
17:27:15 <andythenorth> I can even DM
17:27:21 <andythenorth> such typing
17:27:26 <andythenorth> lo Pikka
17:27:43 <Pikka> lobob
17:28:58 <andythenorth> is cats?
17:29:46 <andythenorth> also, in fame news, we worked with Mr Weebl https://twitter.com/TheWeebl/status/791224902045040640
17:29:48 <andythenorth> but not Mr. Bob
17:30:09 <andythenorth> fame such
17:30:15 <supermop__> does it bother anyone else that default mail trucks drive around with the door open?
17:30:34 <andythenorth> supermop__: you lived in the UK no?
17:30:36 <andythenorth> default
17:30:46 <supermop__> 97-99
17:30:48 <Pikka> there's plenty about the default sprites to be bothered about
17:31:00 <andythenorth> http://www.imcdb.org/i722796.jpg
17:32:23 <Pikka> such mailvans
17:32:54 <supermop__> i just remember these: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Royal_Mail_van,_Edinburgh.JPG
17:33:51 <Pikka> mail trucks in OTTD should really be these https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7311/9189280699_1466c02c42.jpg
17:33:53 <supermop__> lightening the roofs so the trolley poles show up
17:33:56 <Pikka> we don't do delivery
17:35:47 <supermop__> i guess ogfx needs to look like ttd ish
17:36:00 <supermop__> which means door stays open
17:36:23 <Pikka> the big open door is the "not a goods truck" marker
17:36:32 <supermop__> i don't have the appetite to touch anything already in the the set, only to add the trolley trucks
17:36:49 <Pikka> notroads is moving along, then?
17:37:14 <supermop__> which are just the regular trucks with pallet shifted roof, poles, and 2cc cab
17:37:23 <supermop__> Pikka: sort of?
17:37:35 <andythenorth> Pikka: is playable
17:37:39 <supermop__> inspired me to make proof of concept things
17:37:41 <andythenorth> https://www.openttd.org/en/download-ratt
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18:10:38 <supermop_> ok
18:17:49 <supermop_> is there a accepted convention for height of trolleywires?
18:18:43 <Wolf01> Do not interfere with airplanes
18:24:08 <Eddi|zuHause> supermop_: use the same height as for rails?
18:24:42 <supermop_> mostly just hoping my trolley polls don't look dewired
18:24:58 <supermop_> ok i think i have enough sprites to try this now
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19:15:59 <andythenorth> bbls
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19:37:35 <supermop_> double hp for trolley trucks a bit much?
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19:43:41 <supermop_> bigger number for loading speed means slower or faster?
19:44:13 <glx> faster I think
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19:54:41 <Pikka> it's the cargo transferred per tick, iirc
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19:55:20 <supermop_> i see
19:56:05 <supermop_> well ought to be a bit slower with wires over head - have to be careful your forklift doesn't get energized
19:56:28 <supermop_> reliability decay - higher is worse?
19:58:23 <andythenorth> yes
19:58:24 <andythenorth> https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Vehicles#Properties_common_to_all_vehicle_types
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20:39:30 <frosch123> hoi
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21:15:04 <Pikka> oh dear
21:15:34 <Pikka> my brother joined the lib dems
21:15:40 <Pikka> not sure I can ever speak to him again
21:16:12 <frosch123> is that a political party?
21:16:37 <Pikka> it is
21:18:52 <V453000> hello gentlemen :)
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21:20:35 <frosch123> no animals anymore?
21:22:29 <V453000> not sure
21:22:46 <V453000> probably just factories
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21:26:10 <andythenorth> lo V453000
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21:42:45 <andythenorth> Pikka: are australian lib dems quite different to uk lib dems? o_O
21:43:12 <Pikka> the australian Liberal Democrats are right-wing nutbags
21:43:16 <Pikka> but it's the UK ones he's joined
21:44:53 <andythenorth> oic :)
21:45:06 <andythenorth> I joined UK labour by accident
21:45:31 <Pikka> it's easily done
21:48:59 <andythenorth> they wouldn’t let me vote Corbyn out
21:49:01 <andythenorth> which was a shame
21:49:08 <andythenorth> as they let lots of people join to vote him in
21:49:15 <andythenorth> but the rules had to be changed apparently
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21:50:14 <Pikka> such is thing
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21:54:22 <andythenorth> V453000: what working on?
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21:55:23 <frosch123> you pick the members of your parties to shift votes for their leaders?
21:56:10 <frosch123> sounds like when there were student protests in berlin 20 years ago, and the students got the idea that they could easily take over one of the established parties in berlin, if they all joined
21:57:24 <Eddi|zuHause> did that work?
21:57:46 <frosch123> well, the party took their time to check the applications :p
21:59:13 <Pikka> the real problem with joining a political party is that you start paying more attention to election campaigns
21:59:24 <Pikka> which makes it very difficult to vote for any of them...
21:59:30 <frosch123> lol, i tried to look up the details, but apparently the idea was tried multiple times in other (non-state) towns
22:01:56 <andythenorth> frosch123: I have considered trying the same thing here :P
22:02:11 <andythenorth> it has actually happened to UK Labour
22:03:50 <Pikka> it's called branch stacking here
22:05:26 <andythenorth> ships I should draw
22:07:48 <Pikka> hmm
22:07:56 <Pikka> notroads means notcanals? ;)
22:10:14 <andythenorth> notyet
22:23:08 <Sacro> Pikka: nowt wrong with the Lib Dems
22:23:22 * Sacro is a paid up LD member
22:23:48 <supermop_> Sacro: liberals in aus =/ to in uk
22:24:17 <Pikka> supermop_, it's the british lib dems that my brother joined
22:24:25 <Pikka> and I was joking :P
22:24:43 <supermop_> was out of office and missed the context
22:25:19 <andythenorth> Pikka: are you still studenting? o_O
22:25:28 <Pikka> yep, start back next week
22:25:37 <andythenorth> what courses now?
22:25:43 <supermop_> i find rather little incentive to actually 'join' a party here, other than voting in primaries in some states
22:25:49 <Sacro> It's your strange upside down Lib Dem party over there
22:26:23 <Pikka> courses now are architecture and communication
22:26:34 <supermop_> i've only ever voted for members of one party here, but i am not a member of that party, nor do i vote for them because of their membership
22:26:50 <supermop_> Pikka: THOSE SOUND A BIT DIVERGENT?
22:26:53 <supermop_> oops
22:28:03 <supermop_> just that within my lifetime, in places i have lived, the members of one only party have ever been the only reasonable choices to vote for
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22:29:16 <Pikka> I don't know if they're divergent, but it's a bit of variety at least.
22:29:23 <supermop_> nice
22:30:07 <Pikka> breaking out the colouring pencils and balsa wood :)
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22:31:26 <supermop_> I prefer polystyrene, but they discourage that these days - neurotoxin cement and all
22:34:54 <supermop_> tropical brutalism?
22:39:51 <Pikka> it's been done
22:42:21 <supermop_> NOT ENOUGH NEED MORE
22:44:14 <Pikka> dragging Brisbane kicking and screaming into the 1970s?
22:45:48 <Pikka> hmmm...
22:46:26 <Pikka> they should have built 1 Willam St as a 50 storey Queenslander with a tin roof.
22:47:34 <andythenorth> you have a wheel in BNE?
22:48:10 <andythenorth> ah that’s the tower of power
22:49:45 <Pikka> Campbell's erection, if you like.
22:49:56 <Pikka> (or even if you don't)
22:50:37 <andythenorth> such
22:51:00 <Eddi|zuHause> is that just me or does nothing said in the past half hour make any sense whatsoever?
22:51:14 <andythenorth> it’s not just you, but the others left :P
22:51:58 <andythenorth> pikka has been talking about the big building in Brisbane where some of my customers reside
22:52:32 <Eddi|zuHause> i know practically nothing about brisbane
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22:53:05 <Supercheese> Brizzbun
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22:53:17 <andythenorth> fact 1) Pikka lives there
22:53:29 <andythenorth> fact 2) no crocodiles
22:53:51 <Pikka> those facts aren't related, btw
22:54:07 <andythenorth> are there are any other facts?
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22:54:15 <Pikka> there's a wheel
22:54:19 <Eddi|zuHause> 3) it's not sydney
22:54:44 <andythenorth> 4) it’s not Townsville or Rocky
22:54:51 <andythenorth> or Gold Coast
22:54:59 <Eddi|zuHause> 4a) i've not heard of any of those places
22:55:21 <Pikka> Townsville is where the Powerpuff Girls are from
22:55:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not sure if i've ever seen an actual episode of that show :p
22:56:40 <supermop_> 5) i got to ride the train for free
22:58:57 <Pikka> why's that?
22:59:09 <andythenorth> he’s a crim
23:00:08 <supermop_> terminus nearest straddie ticket machine was broke
23:00:47 <andythenorth> today I read the 1950s UK civil contingency planning for surviving WW3
23:00:53 <supermop_> was going to miss train, fairly late in evening so we just got on without,
23:01:02 <supermop_> andythenorth: those are fun pamphlets
23:01:09 <andythenorth> in which the illustrative example was a relatively small nuke being dropped on North Bristol :P
23:01:22 <andythenorth> it’s always nice when the detailed example is where you live
23:01:36 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: is that more realistic than the american "duck and cover"?
23:01:40 <andythenorth> it makes the descriptions and death counts so much more relevant
23:02:08 <supermop_> anyway officers got on like 3 stops before we got off, and we tried to explain our situation
23:02:13 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: it concluded that, taking an optimistic, best case scenario, 28 days after a limited exchange of weapons, everyone would be fucked
23:02:44 <andythenorth> it’s nice to read this stuff every now and then
23:03:03 <supermop_> once they realized we were tourists they just rolled their eyes and walked on
23:03:37 <Wolf01> Politics evening?
23:03:45 <andythenorth> only slightly :)
23:03:48 <Pikka> definitely not
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23:04:29 <Eddi|zuHause> can't be, there was not a single mentioning of trump (err... wait... fuck...)
23:05:00 <Wolf01> At least I had a party... of different kind
23:05:36 <andythenorth> lego party?
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23:06:38 <Wolf01> More "another lap around the sun"
23:24:43 <Wolf01> http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aVqqq3v_460s.jpg wetroad?
23:29:51 <andythenorth> bedroad
23:29:55 <andythenorth> bye ;)
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