IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2017-01-27
            
00:00:14 <supermop_> Eddi|zuHause: not his invention, but something bosses like him do in their hiring/ promotion decisions
00:01:36 <supermop_> the other theory is to flood out so much scary or offensive news that the critics can never catch their breath to organize around one issue to fight against
00:02:20 <supermop_> like in the campaign when he would start a stupid fued with a respected figure right around the time some bad news about him came out
00:03:05 <supermop_> everyone was so angry and offended at him personally for the feud, they didn't spend much time talking about the news
00:06:34 <__ln__> all the talk about trump here ends up in public logs, and if trump finds them one day, i guess he'll join the channel and tell us we are wrong.
00:08:34 <supermop_> he'll just have me tortured
00:10:17 <supermop_> i wonder if i will get waterboarding or 'a whole lot worse than waterboarding"?
00:11:34 <supermop_> i hope they take me to a blacksite in a cool country
00:13:54 <__ln__> for the greater good that would be acceptable
00:14:40 <supermop_> tbh i'm not even sure the CIA feels like working with him on this though
00:14:59 <supermop_> esp. if he keeps insulting them
00:15:10 <supermop_> maybe they will take him to the black site
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00:30:06 <__ln__> has russia ever wanted alaska back? and how interesting would it be if they decided to claim it now.
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01:04:27 <Eddi|zuHause> i think they have other problems
01:35:02 <Wolf01> 'night
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12:13:40 <Wolf01> o/
12:19:52 <Lejving> \o
12:20:38 <Wolf01> https://www.commitstrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Strip-Ne-pas-jeter650-finalenglish2.jpg this is very true
12:21:25 <Wolf01> Also \o/ finally today the java installer was able to download the update
12:21:42 <Lejving> I don't get it
12:21:44 <Lejving> I still use cs2
12:22:25 <Wolf01> I still use 6.0 because it's the only version I got
12:24:37 <Wolf01> And it isn't even the "full" version, it's like the elements
12:24:51 <Lejving> hehe
12:25:00 <Lejving> I just "grew up" with cs2
12:25:03 <Lejving> and it's fast
12:25:11 <Lejving> and I haven't needed anything else so far
12:25:35 <Lejving> If there's a function I need that is in anything newer I'll update but now I don't see any use for it
12:25:59 <Eddi|zuHause> i still have a manual on MS DOS 5
12:31:12 <Wolf01> I still have even the box of that
12:33:39 <V453000> ._.
12:34:00 <Wolf01> I should really throw away most of my old stuff
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12:46:51 <V453000> for my shit CS6+ is critically important simply because it can link files from the disk as layers
12:47:10 <V453000> so if I have renders imported, I can just update them instead of manually re-importing
12:47:51 <V453000> but for anyone who doesn't need that, there hasn't been much new indeed
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14:03:51 <Wolf01> https://www.cheatography.com/mikesac/cheat-sheets/base-git/ uhm, I should keep this where I can find it
14:07:20 * peter1138 ponders playing with OpenBVE again
14:07:37 <Wolf01> :o
14:08:15 <Wolf01> Is it better than trainz/train simulator? (I don't mean the graphics)
14:09:06 <peter1138> not played that
14:09:42 <peter1138> you have to ackowledge AWS and such like, instead of just speeding up & slowing down
14:09:47 <crem> The best train simulator for me is "zdsimulator"
14:10:36 <Wolf01> You could do that in TS too, but not with all engines
14:10:36 <crem> It has mostly russian trains and tracks though.
14:10:49 <peter1138> my gripe with *bve was many of the tracks used billboard textures instead of models, so although it was 3D, using a non-pov camera looks shitty
14:11:25 <peter1138> crem, looks ok
14:13:35 <crem> Also free demo is quite functional, for ones who wants to try out. (I think there are no saves, and "no electricity on electified tracks" so electric locomotives don't work)
14:14:19 <Wolf01> I can't understand why a lot of games use %APPDATA% instead of "%USERPROFILE%\My Games"
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14:16:28 <crem> There was no %userprofile% on non-NT based windows, I think. So just a leftover from windows95 era
14:17:19 <Wolf01> Yes ok, but 17 years after somebody is still too lazy to fix that
14:20:51 <Wolf01> Even Minecraft had to wait for the new launcher to let the user change the folder where worlds are stored, and by default it still is %APPDATA%\Roaming\.minecraft
14:21:19 <Wolf01> And roaming is pointless, too big for roaming
14:21:42 <Wolf01> Can't sync it with your account on a different pc
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16:00:28 <peter1138> on the other hand
16:00:33 <peter1138> my lego order has turned up at home
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16:28:18 <Evert_> hey guys, I'm trying to make an account at account.openttd.org but it doesn't send a verification email. When I press 'resend validation code' and fill in my username, it says 'Account doesn't have any validation pending.' Am I missing something?
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18:04:48 <Alberth> o/
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20:27:53 <frosch123> __ln__: https://www.welt.de/print-welt/article635670/Russlands-Sehnsucht-nach-Alaska.html
20:31:26 <__ln__> danke
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20:40:36 <Evert_> I was trying to make an account at account.openttd.org but it doesn't send a verification email. When I press 'resend validation code' and fill in my username, it says 'Account doesn't have any validation pending.' Am I missing something?
20:42:22 <frosch123> maybe try the recover password site
20:44:10 <Evert_> on the recover site it says "Unknown username / email combination."
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20:46:04 <frosch123> there is already a user "evert" since 2014
20:46:13 <frosch123> so, use a different user name for registering
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20:49:49 <Evert_> yes, I used another username, but for some reason it just doesn't create an account
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22:29:44 <Eddi|zuHause> why do i just in this moment get a spam timestamped 3 days ago?
22:30:42 <frosch123> spam often has completely random timestamps
22:30:47 <frosch123> no idea why
22:31:38 <Eddi|zuHause> clearly i haven't got enough spam all these years
22:32:05 <frosch123> i believe i once got one that had a date years ago
22:32:34 <frosch123> it confused me because i had the inbox sorted by date, and it said one unread one, and i couldn't see it :)
22:36:52 <Wolf01> I got spam and newsletters too with wrong date, even off by years
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22:41:20 <Eddi|zuHause> i think i need to invest time into setting up a loca spam filter, because the frequency of spam is getting annoying
22:41:29 <Eddi|zuHause> *local
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22:47:47 <Marvinyo> Hi! Does anyone play with ECS? Is there a time "limit" for a production start at the vechiles factory?
22:51:06 <frosch123> Marvinyo: https://www.tt-wiki.net/wiki/ECS_Machinery_Vector._Vehicles_Factory#Production
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22:56:17 <Marvinyo> Sry, I meant the date, not the 93 days one. With a NewGRF I'm at 1726 now, and the Factory has 112 steel, 32 glass, 72 dyes, but 0 production. And I thought there is no production for ex. before 1830, or like that.
22:57:44 <frosch123> oh, a horse game :)
22:57:59 <frosch123> no idea about year restrictions
22:58:16 <debdog> would be a bug, wouldn't it?
22:58:41 <debdog> I mean, what'd a vehicles factory do if not producing vehicles?
22:58:55 <debdog> bicycles
22:59:04 <Marvinyo> I donno. Seems reasonable not to product any Vechile in 1700's. :-D
22:59:24 <frosch123> debdog: vehicle is quite a latin word
22:59:37 <frosch123> noone said motorized vehicle
22:59:38 <debdog> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Opel_bicycle5.JPG/800px-Opel_bicycle5.JPG
22:59:50 <debdog> aight
23:00:29 <Marvinyo> debdog: Nice one :-D
23:01:07 <Eddi|zuHause> Marvinyo: maybe you should ask this in the ECS thread in the forum
23:01:38 <frosch123> http://www.imgbox.de/users/Rekord/N.jpg <- opel built all kind of stuff
23:01:58 <frosch123> (that's a pedal driven sewing machine)
23:03:20 <Marvinyo> Eddi|zuHause: Will try, thank you!
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23:08:20 <Wolf01> 'night
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23:21:14 <__ln__> is there currently a european country that doesn't attempt to spy on its citizens online, and also isn't in the process of beginning that as soon as legal paperwork is done?
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23:46:15 <Milek7_> __ln__: what do you precisely mean by "attempt to spy on its citizens online"?
23:50:14 <__ln__> monitoring emails, chat messages, phone calls of everyone instead of only crime suspects
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