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01:05:30  <Wolf01> 'night

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03:02:00  <markasoftware> hi

03:03:49  <markasoftware> just started playing today

03:03:51  <markasoftware> fun game

03:16:05  <markasoftware> what are some good world generation settings?

03:16:09  <markasoftware> for a beginner?

03:44:17  <supermop> 128x128 or 256x256

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04:14:04  <Lejving> hey markasoftware when you're bored of singleplayer you should totally check out #openttdcoop.stable

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05:12:50  <markasoftware> why would i want a small map rather than a big one?

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05:29:26  <supermop> easier to connect everything on a small map

05:34:03  <markasoftware> "road vehicle 5 is lost"

05:34:07  <markasoftware> it jumped to a disconnected area

05:34:12  <markasoftware> not connected by roads

05:37:35  <Lejving> supermop, you got any nml exp?

05:37:41  <Lejving> (doubt anyone else is awake)

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05:47:30  <supermop> not much

05:49:24  <markasoftware> i did a subsidy thing, how do i claim the money?

05:50:37  <supermop> It is not a lump amount

05:51:52  <markasoftware> ok

05:52:04  <supermop> it you deliver the cargo as requested the payments for each delivery will be more than normal

05:52:26  <supermop> sorry im writing with a stylus

05:52:38  <markasoftware> i placed a statidon within range of the sawmill but it says "accepts nothing"...

05:53:27  <supermop> not all tiles of every industry anept the car go

05:54:02  <markasoftware> i deleted an old station there

05:54:06  <markasoftware> then made a new one and it no longer works

05:54:12  <markasoftware> and the name stays in grey even after a destroy the station

05:54:30  <supermop> when building the station, check that it says wood accepted

05:54:35  <markasoftware> it doesn't

05:54:37  <markasoftware> that's the problem

05:54:59  <Lejving> how sure are you that you're in range?

05:55:00  <supermop> then you must build it closer

05:55:10  <markasoftware> OOH lol i was trying to build a bus station

05:55:12  <markasoftware> it needs to be truck

05:55:30  <Lejving> hah

05:55:38  <Lejving> believe me I've done that so many times

05:55:41  <supermop> a deleted station remains for so me fine

05:55:45  <markasoftware> the icons are so damn small

05:55:56  <markasoftware> can i make them a bit bigger (but not 2x) in the cfg or something?

05:55:58  <supermop> some time

05:56:19  <supermop> there is a setting somewhere now

05:56:31  <markasoftware> well i don't know if that subsidy is going to pay off rebuilding the station like 5 times

05:56:34  <supermop> not sure where

05:57:36  <markasoftware> do you start losing money on a route if you do it too much?

05:57:52  <supermop> not really

05:58:00  <supermop> ok i have to go to bed

05:58:09  <Lejving> there should be to double the size of gui

05:58:10  <Lejving> in settings

05:58:11  <Lejving> afaik?

05:58:23  <markasoftware> i don't want to double it

05:58:27  <markasoftware> that's too big

05:58:29  <markasoftware> i tried already

05:58:45  <Lejving> oh didn't read the "but not 2x" :P

05:58:53  <markasoftware> how can I view the price of stuff

05:58:55  <markasoftware> before i buy it

05:59:04  <Lejving> press shift before you place

05:59:05  <markasoftware> i can see it for vehiclesl and stuff, but what about stations, etc

05:59:15  <Lejving> will give you estimated cost

05:59:49  <markasoftware> nothinsg changes when i press shift

05:59:57  <Lejving> shift+click

06:00:02  <Lejving> with a station or something

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06:22:30  <Lejving> http://i.imgur.com/fLmEk53.png

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12:25:17  <Wolf01> Moin

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13:23:59  <Wolf01> http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/amrEow2_460s.jpg are them studying python?

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16:54:09  <Wolf01> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=75835 misterious indeed

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18:03:43  <Lejving> Wolf01, font?

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18:12:32  <Alepod> Hi guys!

18:12:42  <Lejving> sup

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18:15:32  <Alepod> How to select in-game fonts?

18:15:40  <Alepod> IDENTIFY

18:15:48  <Alepod> sorry

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18:18:40  <Lejving> Alepod, they're in openttd.cfg

18:19:42  <Alepod> But almost any font which I try to select leads to error

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18:23:23  <ALEX_> IDENTIFY

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18:30:03  <Alberth> snakes studying Python would be meta-Python

18:30:32  <Lejving> http://bash.org/?400459

18:30:43  <Lejving> obligatory :P

18:31:21  <Alberth> :)

18:32:33  <Alberth> it gets weird if you recognize the quote by its number :p

18:32:44  <Lejving> haha

18:32:58  <frosch123> Alepod: https://wiki.openttd.org/FAQ_troubleshooting#My_User_Interface_is_too_small_to_read_.2F_My_font_is_unreadable_or_faulty <- use those from the example

18:33:40  <Lejving> I recognize the youtube numbers for rick roll

18:34:21  <Alberth> :)

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19:40:56  <Alepod> How can I register and protect my nick here?

19:41:14  <peter1138> nickserv i guess

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19:58:11  <Alepod> where is it?

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20:02:07  <andythenorth> o/

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20:04:27  <frosch123> Alepod: /query nickserv

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20:04:33  <frosch123> then continue with "help"

20:05:09  <frosch123> hoi andy

20:05:20  <andythenorth> lo

20:06:58  <andythenorth> frosch123: this is an interesting station name :) http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8337/station-name.png

20:07:02  <andythenorth> no I didn’t rename it

20:07:33  <andythenorth> I haven’t explored further, it _could_ plausibly be FIRS, but I’m thinking the new string formatting more likely?

20:07:35  <andythenorth> o_O

20:07:53  <frosch123> i would think some industry strings got swapped

20:08:40  <andythenorth> I’ll check FIRS src first

20:08:58  <frosch123> i doubt it is related to string formatters

20:09:33  <frosch123> did you run out of string ids maybe?

20:09:49  <frosch123> i would think the station names also use the precious DCxx strings

20:10:47  <andythenorth> DCxx strings: 236/256

20:11:09  <andythenorth> some of the stations are named using the FIRS name

20:11:41  <andythenorth> it’s happened more than once, I’ll try to get a repro

20:13:22  <Alberth> looks like a useful feature, just read the name to know how cargo it has :)

20:13:30  <Alberth> +much

20:14:21  <andythenorth> got ‘0 batteries’ at another one

20:14:32  <Alberth> :)

20:15:01  <andythenorth> ok got a repro

20:15:09  <andythenorth> ‘probably FIRS'

20:15:54  <andythenorth> missing substring

20:16:45  <Alberth> sounds feasible at least

20:17:04  <andythenorth> what station name for ‘hunting camp’? o_O

20:17:07  <andythenorth> ‘Lodge’ ?

20:17:46  * andythenorth thinks so

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20:18:42  <frosch123> depends on what is being hunted

20:19:10  <andythenorth> Rudolf

20:19:13  <andythenorth> it’s Finland

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20:21:54  <__ln__> the red-nose one?

20:22:51  <frosch123> somehow "hunting" and "load truck stop" do not work for me

20:23:15  <frosch123> s/load/loud/

20:23:31  <andythenorth> I’ll do trolley trucks :P

20:23:39  <andythenorth> quiet ones

20:23:56  <andythenorth> it’s ok, they catch rudolf in the woods, then drag him in with snowmobiles

20:24:25  <frosch123> "pirsch panzer"

20:25:56  * andythenorth googles

20:25:58  <andythenorth> yes

20:26:12  <andythenorth> currently hunting camp has no inputs

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20:26:19  <andythenorth> but this economy does have ‘explosives’ in it :P

20:26:25  <frosch123> no idea what it actually is, but somehow that term came to mind

20:26:39  <__ln__> you know, reindeers aren't *really* wild animals, they have been domesticated.

20:26:58  <andythenorth> it’s agriculture, no?

20:27:42  <frosch123> reindeers are domesticated to make a nice christmas present?

20:27:50  <__ln__> kind of that, and kind of a lifestyle of the indigenous people

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20:28:48  <frosch123> andythenorth: do you have some basic food?

20:28:51  <__ln__> reindeers spend most of their time all over the forests, but each one of them is owned by someone.

20:29:15  <andythenorth> basic food comes from the hunting camp

20:29:15  <frosch123> chestnuts are popular

20:29:23  <andythenorth> it could be circular :P

20:29:36  <frosch123> nah, that is too brittish

20:30:07  <frosch123> only brittish people feed hardly boiled cow to cows

20:30:48  <frosch123> andythenorth: anyway, which economy?

20:31:19  <frosch123> arctic basic seems to have hunting camp

20:32:01  <frosch123> i guess "farm supplies"?

20:32:19  <frosch123> there is no farm otherwise

20:32:25  <andythenorth> nah, just a forest

20:32:33  <andythenorth> farm supplies could include guns o_O

20:32:37  <andythenorth> 'farm'

20:32:49  <frosch123> adding another cargo for forest->hunting camp is also weird

20:32:51  <andythenorth> ‘extraction of organic materials supplies'

20:32:58  <andythenorth> translators would love that :P

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20:33:05  <frosch123> the forest could directly produce food

20:33:11  <frosch123> did you already draw the hunting camp?

20:33:13  <andythenorth> nah

20:33:30  <andythenorth> but the forest might get pulpwood added as an output

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20:34:34  <frosch123> andythenorth: well, i thought more about animal food than guns

20:35:04  <frosch123> widelands has these weird food chains

20:35:15  <frosch123> all 3 tribes have fishers and hunters

20:35:53  <frosch123> but only barbarians have a game keeper to make hunter sustainable, and only atlantians have a fish breeder to make fishing sustainable

20:36:02  <frosch123> romans have pig farms instead

20:36:45  * andythenorth looking for chains

20:36:57  <andythenorth> google images doesn’t have any, nvm :)

20:37:37  <frosch123> yeah, my google is also broken

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20:37:48  <frosch123> i get ottd screenshots when looking for "widelands cargo chain"

20:38:09  <frosch123> actually, i also get truck and ship pictures

20:38:26  <frosch123> andy broke it obviously :)

20:38:43  <andythenorth> oops

20:39:23  <andythenorth> clearly I should subscribe to this magazine https://image.issuu.com/151202204139-2f3f47fe6514846b0f1f7a455fe68af0/jpg/page_1.jpg

20:39:52  <Wolf01> :D

20:40:22  <andythenorth> my actual indian truck is also in the search results :P http://i.bosscdn.com/product/80/9c/57/37fe5f7d0ac2c26a764070479a.jpg@0e_220w_220h.src

20:40:29  <andythenorth> although mine is broken, so eh

20:42:06  <frosch123> https://wl.widelands.org/wlmedia/wlhelp/network_graphs/barbarians/barbarians.pdf <- problem is that so many cargos are focused on construction

20:42:18  <frosch123> "thatch reed" would be an interesting ottd cargo :p

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20:44:20  <andythenorth> quite a lot of ‘deliver xyz to get a new building’?

20:48:26  <frosch123> i think the problem is that in other games the cargos have some purpose

20:48:36  <frosch123> while ottd is only about transporting them

20:49:14  <frosch123> that makes ottd cover a broader variety and distinguish less details

20:49:39  <frosch123> so, no copying of cargo chains from factorio or widelands :)

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20:55:18  <andythenorth> I think I am ok for cargos right now :)

20:55:20  <andythenorth> no shortage

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20:56:35  <frosch123> well, maybe you want to add a steampunk economy to firs

20:56:43  <supermop_> ooh internet back at office

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21:27:05  * andythenorth playing ottd

21:27:07  <andythenorth> it’s good eh?

21:28:45  <frosch123> i've heard about it

21:28:49  <supermop_> esp the cute little trains

21:29:13  <supermop_> and how easy it is to use up 100% of a cpu core

21:34:45  <andythenorth> 20% for me :P

21:34:50  <andythenorth> 138 ships

21:38:06  <andythenorth> that could escalate quickly :P

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21:45:46  * andythenorth winning SV

21:45:48  <andythenorth> nearly

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22:00:07  <supermop_> what goal cargo?

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22:01:09  <andythenorth> paper

22:01:15  <andythenorth> in arctic basic

22:02:06  <andythenorth> ha I won

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22:09:15  <andythenorth> bed

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