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01:08:48 <Wolf01> nn
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03:50:33 <supermop_> alright i've annoyed 100 people across several states
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09:43:27 <Wolf01> o/
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10:02:58 <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: it's downloading now
10:08:45 <Wolf01> Me too
10:11:10 <Wolf01> But I will take ages
10:11:29 <Wolf01> 256kbps
10:14:41 <Eddi|zuHause> ... 90% (5MB/s)
10:15:13 <Eddi|zuHause> i have 50mbit
10:16:22 <Eddi|zuHause> 15 minutes for almost 5GB
10:16:28 <Wolf01> :(
10:23:07 <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: a few years ago that would have taken me 2 days
10:23:36 <Wolf01> It will take me ages for ages
10:24:23 <Eddi|zuHause> that was a time where it was faster if i drove to university, finished the download there, and drove back, i was faster
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10:29:41 <Wolf01> I am tempted to use phone data, but I only have 1GB, 600MB now
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10:42:35 <Eddi|zuHause> that won't suffice, i'm afraid
10:51:32 <Wolf01> 500MB \o/
10:57:55 <crem> I tried to play some downloaded scenarios this weekend and could not start (almost) any. All of them had lots of dependencies, few of them could not be found anywhere. Am I missing something?
10:58:32 <Wolf01> No, but scenario creators do
11:00:02 <Eddi|zuHause> crem: lots of old "New"GRFs can be found in this package http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/GRF
11:00:58 <Eddi|zuHause> if they're also not found in there, it gets significantly more problematic to find
11:00:59 <crem> Thanks, will take a look. Usually a was able to find some of grfs manually, but there were still 1-2 that were missing.
11:05:25 <V453000> if it's not in the coop pack, or bananas, it becomes hell
11:07:37 <Wolf01> About hell, tell your friends to make mods download automatically the dependencies in F, love, me :*
11:09:16 <V453000> I am saying that almost every day
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12:39:45 <Wolf01> Meh 60%
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13:17:07 <V453000> 60% of?
13:17:28 <Wolf01> Downloaded
13:17:41 <Wolf01> 4.2GB
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13:19:06 <Wolf01> *4.7
13:19:20 <Eddi|zuHause> ... somehow it didn't register my achievement
13:19:37 <Wolf01> Classic
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13:47:53 <Wolf01> Eddi|zuHause, how is compared to train fever?
13:48:26 <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: haven't digged deep enough to compare. the campaign seems to be an interesting twist
13:48:58 <Wolf01> Any bug so far? (except the achievement one)
13:54:36 <Eddi|zuHause> well, other people seem to get achievements
13:54:41 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe it's just me, or a linux issue
13:55:01 <Eddi|zuHause> some texts are not properly translated to german for some reason
13:55:08 <Eddi|zuHause> but other than that, not really
13:55:37 <Wolf01> How is the feel to be able to build double track bridges?
13:56:53 <Wolf01> Also, is now possible to upgrade roads under bridges without demolish the bridge first?
13:57:13 <Wolf01> (and not being able to rebuild it later)
13:58:49 <Wolf01> :o last 100MB
13:59:06 <Wolf01> 3 minutes to go
14:00:14 <Eddi|zuHause> did not check
14:02:32 <Wolf01> -_-''' russian
14:05:02 <Wolf01> They should have reordered the dropdown in the languages tab, default is russian if your language is not there
14:13:17 <Wolf01> Lol... people faces XD
14:15:29 <Eddi|zuHause> i did not have this problem
14:16:21 <Wolf01> Maybe because there's german
14:18:58 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, game defaults to german for me
14:24:08 <goodger> how can it not be translated properly to german? the developers' native language is german
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14:47:29 <peter1138> Because even Germans know that German is a silly language.
14:53:30 <Eddi|zuHause> well, i'm not too sure if swiss german counts :p
14:59:30 <ConductCat> German is the living incarnation of Latin.
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15:14:32 <Eddi|zuHause> very unlikely
15:19:19 <goodger> the romance language family is actually the living incarnation of latin
15:19:24 <goodger> german is the living incarnation of german
15:22:03 <Wolf01> Do you know what I miss, Eddi? The automatic rotation of stations when you are attaching them to an existing road
15:23:35 <Wolf01> The autorefit instead is really nice
15:36:04 <Wolf01> Lol... vehicles stuck in depot
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15:48:15 <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: what really annoyed me immediately was that arrow-keys sometimes stop moving the map, and move some window cursors instead
15:48:36 <Wolf01> Maybe when autosaves
15:48:52 <Eddi|zuHause> no, when specific windows open
15:49:31 <Wolf01> Oh, it happen with construction tools
15:49:53 <Wolf01> Strange behaviour
15:51:03 <Wolf01> Road depot tool changes between road and tram depot selection with scrolling keys
15:51:07 <Wolf01> Maybe a bug
15:51:26 <goodger> maybe tell the developers
15:51:27 <Eddi|zuHause> probably not a bug
15:51:33 <Eddi|zuHause> but certainly a misfeature
15:52:16 <Wolf01> It doesn't even happen every time
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15:54:22 <Wolf01> What bothers me since train fever is that you can reverse vehicles/trains but not change the current order
15:55:57 <goodger> have they sorted out the time compression problem?
15:56:12 <Wolf01> No, but there are mods for that
15:57:19 <goodger> intriguing
15:59:40 <Eddi|zuHause> what time compression problem?
16:00:01 <Eddi|zuHause> is that like daylength or what?
16:00:06 <Wolf01> Train takes 1 month to do 15km
16:00:24 <Wolf01> Yes, same as daylength
16:00:51 <Wolf01> We should provide a way to change it with newgrfs too
16:00:53 <Wolf01> :D
16:01:00 <Wolf01> (just kidding)
16:01:59 <Eddi|zuHause> how is that a problem?
16:02:41 <Eddi|zuHause> if you're doing "real time", then you won't ever get new vehicles
16:03:11 <Wolf01> Just fast forward
16:03:32 <Wolf01> Or invent new vehicles *every day*
16:04:32 <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: no new vehicles saves me the work of re-timetabling
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17:30:08 <Alberth> o/
17:32:34 <Wolf01> o/
17:32:45 <Wolf01> Eddi|zuHause, no station join?
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18:30:21 <supermop> i got a free empanada for voting
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18:52:40 <frosch123> hoi
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19:00:50 <Alberth> hola
19:06:34 <Wolf01> Quak
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19:13:55 <Wolf01> o/
19:18:12 <andythenorth> lo
19:32:35 * andythenorth refactoring Iron Horse
19:32:37 <andythenorth> to save time
19:32:48 * andythenorth has spent an hour on it
19:45:44 <Alberth> always busy to be lazy :)
19:45:48 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27678 trunk/src/lang/romanian.txt (2016-11-08 19:45:38 +0100 )
19:45:50 <DorpsGek> -Update from Eints:
19:45:51 <DorpsGek> romanian: 20 changes by kneekoo
19:46:59 <andythenorth> somewhere I got the idea that subclassing was not to be encouraged
19:47:07 <andythenorth> so I took an arcane route around it
19:47:09 <andythenorth> silly andythenorth
19:52:14 <Wolf01> :D
19:54:57 <Alberth> making a mistake is the best way to learn why it's a mistake :)
19:56:19 <Alberth> unfortunately, you only find out afterwards :(
19:56:22 <Wolf01> Subclassing has some nasty problems
19:57:46 <Wolf01> For example you have a truck and a train which are vehicles, if you want to make a road-train/tram/wtf you need to subclass again "vehicle" because you can't inherit from truck and from train
20:04:19 <ST2> hmmm, new addon? https://www.wired.com/2016/11/review-yeti-hopper-flip-12/
20:04:20 <ST2> xD
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20:29:49 <andythenorth> Wolf01: that’s ok, just subclass tram :)
20:29:58 <andythenorth> easier to delete
20:30:09 <andythenorth> from vehicle
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20:50:31 <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: no, but that was stupid anyways... you just need to make sure catchment areas overlap, and they will transfer
20:50:35 <argoneus> good evening train friends
20:51:28 <Wolf01> Eddi|zuHause +1
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21:09:28 <Eddi|zuHause> who else is fed up with an election in some weird country halfway around the world?
21:09:47 <Wolf01> I have more important things to do
21:10:42 <Wolf01> Like making 5 trains/yr full of passengers travel on the bridge over the Tay
21:11:41 <Wolf01> Oh finally, did it
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21:19:55 <Alberth> Eddi: yep, I already wondered when the elections are, so they stop writing useless articles about the soap.
21:20:22 <Alberth> euhm, just let them drive around in circles? :p
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23:24:16 <goodger> Eddi|zuHause: they do have quite a lot of money and weaponry, so the potential election of a sexual-assaulting murder-clown as their head of state is worth paying attention to
23:24:59 <Eddi|zuHause> uhm sure, we're screwed either way... but it's become a tad much...
23:26:02 <goodger> I submit that rodham clinton is barely worse than merkel, while trump is a potential hitler
23:31:50 <FLHerne_> Yeah, Clinton is the standard personality-by-committee politician
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