IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2016-10-24
⏴ go to previous day
00:27:21 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd
02:28:31 *** DeVonne has joined #openttd
03:04:14 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd
03:39:29 *** OsteHovel has joined #openttd
04:01:32 *** DeVonne1 has joined #openttd
07:37:47 *** DeVonne has joined #openttd
09:34:51 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd
09:44:11 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd
10:04:00 *** andythenorth is now known as Andy_wfh
10:04:05 *** Andy_wfh is now known as andythenorth
10:51:18 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd
10:59:49 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd
12:32:29 <Wolf01> I think I slept well tonight
12:47:35 *** argoneus has joined #openttd
12:57:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai
13:05:59 <andythenorth> Wolf01: so I need to patch NML, but right now I am working on an ISO27001 process
13:21:00 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd
13:59:17 <LordAro> andythenorth: ISO27k1 \o/
14:12:23 *** Myhorta has joined #openttd
15:00:16 <Wolf01> Mmmh, I have a strange problem in visual studio tests... Exception thrown: 'System.ServiceModel.CommunicationObjectAbortedException' in System.ServiceModel.dll
15:00:44 <Wolf01> But tests work, it happen after the tests
15:00:56 <andythenorth> the malware can’t communicate with it’s controller? o_O
15:01:08 * andythenorth is doing ISO 27001, all things now look like malware to me
15:01:47 <Wolf01> Web suggest to enable the Network DTC Access without authentication
17:05:32 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd
17:34:35 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd
17:50:06 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd
17:58:05 *** Alberth has joined #openttd
17:58:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth
18:06:04 <Wolf01> I'm trying to understand if it's my fault.... Assert.AreEqual failed. Expected:<{X:0 Y:1}>. Actual:<{X:-4,371139E-08 Y:1}>.
18:08:54 <Wolf01> Nothing that a nice Round() can't address, but heh
18:11:50 <Alberth> reals are approximations by definition
18:12:05 <Alberth> which means x == y is always 'false'
18:12:34 <Alberth> usually x == x holds, but not always either
18:13:04 <Wolf01> It is more int -> operation -> double -> operation -> float
18:13:42 <Wolf01> So decimals smells here
18:38:37 *** Progman has joined #openttd
19:07:46 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd
19:15:56 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd
19:26:24 <andythenorth> for me today is sponsored by anti-virus scanners
19:26:54 <goodger> I am sponsored by WD40 today
19:30:53 *** Flygon_ has joined #openttd
19:31:32 <Alberth> cats don't like scans, I think
19:31:46 <andythenorth> what a lot of windows trojans got found
19:31:52 <andythenorth> in ancient emails
19:32:10 <Alberth> oh, the good old times :p
19:32:26 * andythenorth ponders fish trams
19:33:03 <Alberth> something reefer-ish?
19:34:26 *** yaHeiko has joined #openttd
19:34:36 <andythenorth> I was thinking a tank of water
19:35:43 <andythenorth> are lobsters fish?
19:35:50 * andythenorth considers a FIRS seafood economy
19:36:01 <andythenorth> cod, eels, lobsters, crabs, shrimps
19:36:12 <goodger> they are crustaceans, but 'fish' is acladistic anyway
19:38:56 <andythenorth> maybe I can patch nml now
19:39:09 <andythenorth> roadtypes and tramtypes?
19:39:14 <andythenorth> roadtypes and lightrailtypes?
19:39:16 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd
19:39:19 <andythenorth> ach, find and replace it later
19:39:43 <Wolf01> I would go for light rail
19:40:37 <Alberth> that makes the other one dark rail or heavy rail?
19:40:44 <goodger> I think the public has a right to know when OTTD will have tram-trains
19:41:09 <andythenorth> goodger: the only safe answer is ‘never’ :)
19:41:26 <Alberth> hopefully before infinity
19:41:26 <goodger> yeah, that was a joke
19:59:57 <supermop_> andythenorth: see both trucks with tanks of fish here as well as tank like pallets
20:12:01 <Wolf01> <Alberth> that makes the other one dark rail or heavy rail? <- I think we could move narrow gauge to lightrails in future
20:12:32 <Wolf01> Too bad we don't have signals for roads... yet
20:13:11 <Alberth> signals would too much train-ish, imho
20:13:31 <Alberth> traffic lights may work
20:15:36 <Wolf01> Also roundabouts, it shouldn't be so difficult to allow inversion on crossings
20:17:27 <Alberth> cant just build them as 3x3 tiles?
20:17:49 <Wolf01> Too much space in the middle of cities
20:18:06 <Wolf01> Also you can't put one way on curves
20:18:26 <Wolf01> So you need to make them 5x5
20:19:15 <Wolf01> Which could be nice for an industrial area junction, not much in the middle of a city
20:19:29 <Alberth> 2x2 and use eg 'left' side on all tiles?
20:20:15 <Wolf01> Still allow vehicles going the wrong way
20:20:40 <Alberth> 4x4 would be enough, you need only 1 tile with directin at a side
20:21:05 <Alberth> oh, 3x3, with connect at the side
20:26:25 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd
20:31:38 <Wolf01> What's the best way to clamp x = (CIRC - (float)d * hPI) between 0 <= x < CIRC?
20:33:38 <Wolf01> Just a "if (d == 0) return 0;"?
20:46:07 <Alberth> simplest way is to let nothing go wrong if x==CIRC, perhaps
20:46:21 <Wolf01> Test fail because 0 = 360
20:46:21 <Alberth> open upper limit is hard
20:47:26 <Wolf01> "d" is limited, it's an enum with [RIGHT, UP, LEFT, DOWN]
20:48:15 <Alberth> make an array so you can just lookup the value
20:48:44 <Wolf01> It's already like that
20:49:16 <Wolf01> I mean, in game I don't really care if it's 0 or 360, but test...
20:49:58 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd
20:50:56 <Alberth> where x_val is an array with 4 floats
20:51:13 <Wolf01> Eh, but I don't want to change 3 parts in the code just if I want to add a new direction in future
20:57:23 <andythenorth> vehicles with special cargo aging or loading speed effects
20:57:29 <andythenorth> should the buy menu tell that?
20:58:25 <andythenorth> and if so, what to say?
21:00:24 <frosch123> entertainer on board - keep your livestock happy
21:09:07 <andythenorth> what about if it’s frozen fishfingers?
21:09:20 <andythenorth> they like entertainment too? o_O
21:10:02 <Alberth> they like frozen-ness
21:12:11 <frosch123> bad entertaienr on board - faster unload tmies
21:13:17 <andythenorth> lower payment rate also?
21:13:22 <andythenorth> I could randomise it per journey
21:14:17 <andythenorth> boring virus scan is boring
21:28:02 *** gelignite has joined #openttd
21:50:42 <andythenorth> hmm, RH trams are really low capacity compared to RL
21:57:24 <Wolf01> You never played Train Fever... trams for 5 passengers
22:00:49 <andythenorth> pax trams are a bit boss currently
22:00:57 <andythenorth> they have more power than an Iron Horse metro train
22:33:31 *** andythenorth has left #openttd
23:22:48 *** Extrems has joined #openttd
23:37:34 <Eddi|zuHause> train fever was a bit extreme i think
23:38:37 <Wolf01> I play it FF for the first 25-30 years
23:39:18 <Wolf01> So I can play without money problems after :P
23:40:40 *** Myhorta has joined #openttd
23:45:08 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd
23:46:21 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd
23:47:59 *** supermop__ has joined #openttd
23:55:22 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd
23:59:50 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd
continue to next day ⏵
