IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2016-08-09
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04:51:13 <supermop_> Eddi|zuHause: maybe you need to let google spy on you a bit more to learn what to recommend?
04:52:24 <Eddi|zuHause> "big data is like XML/alcohol/violence. if it doesn't solve your problem, you're not using enough of it
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07:59:30 <V453000> tbh I had no idea what is the word for "frog sounds" in english up to today :D
08:01:59 <Supercheese> apparently "ribbit"
08:02:09 <Supercheese> although whoever came up with that was nuts
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10:52:16 <MonkeyDrone> sprite_cache_size_px = 512 is max?
10:58:47 <Alberth> that's what misc_settings.ini says
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11:35:48 <MonkeyDrone> Alberth: no such file exists here
11:39:20 <Alberth> trunk/src/table/misc_settings.ini doesn't exist?
11:40:10 <Alberth> or with a shell: find src -name misc_settings.ini -print :)
11:42:46 <MonkeyDrone> Alberth: oh, sorry, i was lagging on the client-side on my server cause huge cities. Read someone said to increase the cache size to help improve the zoom-out lag.
11:42:59 <MonkeyDrone> thank you Alberth, I sitll have not started looking at the code :D
11:58:45 <Samu> i suspect trans will bankrupt
11:59:25 <Samu> with over 1000 lost ships
11:59:40 <Samu> negative profit of -£200k a quarter
12:00:20 <Samu> in a year, maybe less, it bankrupts t.t
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14:13:27 <Wolf01> I need to find something satisfying to do, right now
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14:37:16 <Wolf01> No, no fantasy this period :/
14:49:45 <Wolf01> I should restart writing the book with the story for my upcoming point and click game... maybe I'll be able to finish it in the next 10 years
14:52:49 <MonkeyDrone> should i be worried that my laptop's maximum brightness is no longer 'bright'
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15:08:30 <Flygon> MonkeyDrone: Get new flourescent tubes
15:09:14 <MonkeyDrone> damn, didn't even know you could do that. thanks Flygon
15:09:41 <Flygon> It's easier to just replace the entire LCD panel
15:09:55 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i was about to say that
15:09:59 <Eddi|zuHause> just replace the whole display
15:10:17 <MonkeyDrone> Flygon: well if the replacement parts are resonably priced, i don't mind experimenting, i have to replace this laptop soon anyway
15:10:25 <Wolf01> It's even worse if you try to install fluorescent tubes when your LCD is LED
15:10:42 <Flygon> A new LCD panel is probably cheaper than tubes designed for your panel
15:10:46 <Flygon> And Wolf01 has a point, hahaha
15:11:03 <Flygon> Especially if it's an OLED :D
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15:11:13 <Eddi|zuHause> an LED panel is unlikely to drop in brightness that quickly, i suppose
15:11:28 <Flygon> But, yeah. Seriously, getting a new panel outright is prolly cheaper and easier.
15:11:50 <Flygon> And depending on the laptop's age and popularity
15:11:57 <Flygon> It may even be cheaper than manufacturing price
15:12:10 <Flygon> But that's a very particular economic sweet spot
15:12:30 <Flygon> Depending on the laptop model
15:12:36 <Flygon> You might get away with a non-spec LCD...
15:13:00 <Flygon> I've heard of 4:3 Thinkpads getting their 1024*768 monitors replaced with 2560*1920 ones of the same dimensions
15:13:15 <MonkeyDrone> let's check amazon ;p
15:13:22 <MonkeyDrone> Flygon: that would be brilliant
15:13:29 <Flygon> I'll let the others here handle this from here-on in
15:13:33 <Flygon> They got more experience
15:13:35 <Flygon> I just know the theory
15:13:42 <MonkeyDrone> heh, it's cool Flygon, replacing whole unit would be cheaper
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16:03:10 <NGC3982> I guess this is the official channel for Factorio these days.
16:03:46 <MonkeyDrone> NGC3982: don't know what you are high on but I would like to take a whiff of that too
16:15:05 <Wolf01> MonkeyDrone, he's right
16:18:21 <Alberth> just walk in here while people are playing factorio
16:22:42 <Flygon> It's still a better situation than TCRF's official IRC somehow turning into #australiantv for 8 hours of the day
16:23:07 <Flygon> Australian TV channels are streamed online in .m3u8 form
16:23:21 <Flygon> And lots of people have Getflix...
16:23:32 <Flygon> So we ended up watching TV together :|
16:23:40 <Flygon> Like teenagers on phones from the 90s
16:25:35 <Wolf01> I did it so many times with IRC
16:25:59 <peter1138> m3u8 is just a playlist file...
16:26:12 <Wolf01> It's fun to comment TV programs with friends :P
17:05:35 <Samu> trans is about to bankrupt, negative money in bank
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17:43:47 <Eddi|zuHause> peter1138: is that like an executable in .lnk format?
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18:32:52 <Samu> hmm providing a replay for trans isn't possible :( but i wanted to
18:32:58 <Samu> it takes too long to save
18:33:26 <Samu> wanted to show 1140 lost ships to the author lol :o
18:34:51 <Samu> hmm maybe it is possible, if my spectator instance saves instead
18:35:52 <Samu> wow, why didn't i think of it earlier
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19:08:48 <frosch123> he, a frog statue .p
19:10:00 <frosch123> i recall considering buying the custom-object tier in pikkas fundraiser
19:10:03 <Alberth> quak, very nice gift :)
19:10:19 <frosch123> got it cheaper now :p
19:10:22 <V453000> you got it for free plus a lot of your work over the years :P
19:10:40 <V453000> foundations are fixed and pushed now
19:11:26 <frosch123> yeah, they work well for the "stacked foundations"
19:11:42 <frosch123> they do not have these weird lines between them, which the regular ones have
19:11:43 <V453000> the x4 was fixed last night already
19:11:54 <V453000> yeah I think they turned out pretty nice
19:14:07 <Alberth> one step closer to vertical walls :p
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19:31:19 <andythenorth> we need daylength
19:34:33 <Eddi|zuHause> so, i recently played civ4 again, and the same thing happened that always happens... i focus too much on building up my cities and getting some wonders, that the moment the first person declares war on me, i get overrun completely...
19:35:18 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: you are not a paranoid person
19:35:32 <andythenorth> not helpful in a game like that :)
19:36:03 <Eddi|zuHause> i still dislike that in marathon mode the units take longer to build
19:36:20 <Eddi|zuHause> build time increase should only be for buildings, so you can have epicly huge armies
19:36:51 <Eddi|zuHause> also, you can get reinforcements easier
19:38:51 <Eddi|zuHause> now, i could roll back the game 20 turns and try to cancel the wonders and build an army..
19:39:00 <Eddi|zuHause> or start a new game where i'm alone on an island
19:46:11 <Alberth> first build army and conqueror world, then bring peace and nice cities :p
19:52:27 <frosch123> the civ version i played were always: the easier the start, the harder later on
19:52:53 <frosch123> the toughest survives, and the toughest is defines by training
19:53:15 <frosch123> if you are alone on an island, you probably lose
19:53:44 <frosch123> if you are with 5 on an island, you probably lose early, or win everything
19:53:50 <Eddi|zuHause> especially, if you're alone the others will trade tech with each other and get ahead
19:54:14 <frosch123> same in moo2 actually :)
19:54:40 <frosch123> if there are creative and weak spies in some corner, you are in trouble
19:54:59 <frosch123> the creatives research everything, the spies steal everything, and the others conquer the spies
19:55:09 <frosch123> because noone likes the spies
19:55:49 <Eddi|zuHause> i usually play uncreative with some spy efficience
19:56:29 <Eddi|zuHause> also, unification
19:56:43 <frosch123> i never played uncreative, isn't it pretty much luck with the important techs on the first tiers?
19:57:28 <Eddi|zuHause> doesn't really matter that much, imho
19:57:48 <Eddi|zuHause> of the really important techs, you generally have an impossible choice anyway
19:58:13 <Eddi|zuHause> and you can go spying for those rather quickly
19:58:50 <MonkeyDrone> god damn my ottd crashes a lot x.x
19:59:19 <MonkeyDrone> where do i spam the crash logs? :P
19:59:45 <Eddi|zuHause> bugs.openttd.org
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20:08:37 <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: in civ 4 i found that the only way i could reliably win one of the non-boring wins was to conquer the world in antiquity
20:09:03 <supermop> but then you miss out on all the neat unit upgrades
20:09:21 <Eddi|zuHause> i usually aim for a cultural win, especially if i manage to get the sistine chapel
20:09:46 <MonkeyDrone> ah nothing, that bridge looks so bad, RAWR didn't have bridges?
20:10:04 <supermop> you cant easily conquer earth with modern armor in the 1990s like in civ 3
20:10:16 <V453000> yes, that is an opengfx bridge
20:10:23 <V453000> RAWR doesn't have bridges, BRIX does
20:10:37 <Eddi|zuHause> i once got a religious victory, by giving one of the last enemies, who was a theocracy, a city with my religion. then the victory vote came up, and since they had barely any votes i could just win
20:10:52 <MonkeyDrone> V453000: sweeet, can't wait <3
20:11:14 <supermop> after many plays through i got tired of winning with UN or space ship
20:11:16 <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: i can usually overrun anyone by the time i get mobile infantry
20:11:26 <Eddi|zuHause> but that is really tedious
20:11:32 <supermop> but i always dislike warring
20:12:04 <supermop> but the unit xp made it sort of fun, but then i spent too long trying to optimized unit upgrades
20:12:43 <Eddi|zuHause> there was a game where the only fighting units the guy had were generals
20:13:08 <supermop> better to get elephants or something asap and get your continent or hemisphere locked down soon
20:13:25 <Eddi|zuHause> and then there was a game where the guy didn't have any fighting units at all beyond the starting warrior
20:13:29 <supermop> were the free city-states in ci4 or 5?
20:14:02 <supermop> i kind of wish they could get a little stronger
20:14:13 <supermop> what about vassal states?
20:14:30 <Eddi|zuHause> vassal states existed in civ4
20:14:37 <Eddi|zuHause> but i never quite got the point of those
20:17:17 <supermop> once in architecture school studio i had a long running civ 4 game going on with a grad student studio next to us
20:17:53 <supermop> but eventually it got unworkable you'd be waiting all day for a guy who was in the wood shop to do his turn
20:19:17 <supermop> also i would always rush to get all of the religions
20:19:53 <Eddi|zuHause> that's what always was weird to me, you either get all the religions or none of them
20:20:31 <Eddi|zuHause> i just always went advanced start and gave me the first religion tech, then i did not bother with the rest
20:23:41 <supermop> i mean irl a few countries have most adherents locked down
20:23:56 <supermop> India has a pretty broad batch
20:24:28 <Eddi|zuHause> uhm, maybe, but there's no real reason why it would be tied to tech then
20:25:50 <supermop> I am sure ancient India had a science department furiously researching - "come on guys we have to invent Buddhism before China does!"
20:27:00 <supermop> also the idea of 'researching' polytheism is sort of funny
20:38:38 <supermop> wedding photos came back
20:39:19 <supermop> i should just hire a photographer to follow me around on vacations to take photos for me
20:55:53 <Samu_> how does the bankrupt warnings work?
20:56:09 <Samu_> trans is at -£1M and still not out
20:57:26 <Samu_> he's been selling ships but it's still negative
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21:02:38 <supermop> i am constantly surprised every time i hear that Kissinger is still alive
21:05:06 <supermop> he never struck me as being abnormally healthy
21:05:19 <supermop> he already looks old in pictures from the 60s
21:05:33 <supermop> and looks more or less the same now as in the 70s
21:06:12 <andythenorth> maybe he has a picture in an attic
21:06:29 <Eddi|zuHause> i think that was a movie :p
21:41:43 <MonkeyDrone> 50 bucks we never see the N.Korea olympic athele ever again after that selfie
21:43:08 <Eddi|zuHause> do i want to care?
21:49:31 <MonkeyDrone> well it's 50 bucks, do you like to earn 50 bucks?
21:50:46 <Eddi|zuHause> money is a terrible nuisance
21:52:00 <MonkeyDrone> ah well anyways, i'm off to bed
21:53:04 <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: can i have 50 bucks
21:53:23 <Eddi|zuHause> sure, make a bet with MonkeyDrone
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22:51:34 <Samu_> nonocab npf ships reached 2051
22:51:47 <Samu_> only 1 game remains and I am finally done with ships!
22:52:11 <Samu_> never really expected it would be too slow
22:58:17 <Wolf01> Nice, got a steam serial for a desura game
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