IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2016-06-24
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00:00:38 <supermop> eve if there is no law, they have a bit more decorum about elections than we do
00:13:18 <glx> <Eddi|zuHause> there's a law that the exit polls may not be published before polls close <-- here it's not before 20h, but usually belgium media don't care ;)
00:14:06 <Eddi|zuHause> glx: polls usually close around 18h here
00:14:20 <Eddi|zuHause> but they also generally are on sundays :p
00:14:38 <Eddi|zuHause> and not during holidays
00:15:10 <glx> same, sundays, 18h for most places and 20h for big cities
00:16:07 <glx> so nothing from french media before 20h and we start to get estimations from belgian media at 18h :)
00:25:59 <supermop> is 18h a common continental way of writing 18:00?
00:28:10 <Eddi|zuHause> no, i just picked the same format that glx was using
00:28:24 <Samu> pathfinder update, current server year for DictatorAI: Original @ 1973, YAPF @ 1972, NPF @ 1967
00:28:53 <Wolf01> last 2 polls here closed at 23.00
00:28:59 <Samu> for NoCAB: Original @ 1968, YAPF @ 1967, NPF @ 1965
00:29:05 <glx> I rarely use : when I write
00:30:06 <Eddi|zuHause> i was debating in my head whether i should use :
00:31:33 <glx> but indeed the standard is HH:MM
00:32:25 <glx> but I think we most write HHhMM
00:34:37 <Samu> ships that returned a profit last year for DictatorAI: Original 351/490 (~72%), NPF 696/782 (~89%), YAPF 516/578 (~89%)
00:37:30 <Samu> for NoCAB: Original 1918/3887 (~49%), NPF 1815/3378 (~54%), YAPF 2122/3473 (~61%)
00:38:24 <Samu> YAPF is the better of the three, overall
00:42:18 <Samu> cpu time used so far for DictatorAI: YAPF 1h45m, Original 1h59, NPF 3h27
00:43:15 <Samu> for NoCAB: Original 2h39m, YAPF 2h57m, NPF 3h05m
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00:47:42 <Samu> the impressions I have is Original deals better with lost ships regarding cpu usage, but having lost ships isn't desirable
00:47:55 <Samu> NPF deals horribly with lost ships
00:48:32 <Samu> yapf with lost ships, not really sure yet
00:49:42 <Samu> it seems Original is lighter than YAPF regarding lost ships
00:52:11 <Samu> regarding mouse and keyboard input... they're all horrible
00:52:22 <Samu> slow, sluggish, delayed... ugh
00:53:42 <Samu> YAPF doesn't produce as many lost ships as NPF
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05:40:48 <supermop__> this is ridiculous
05:41:05 <supermop__> can't remember last time pound was this weak
05:43:35 <Sacro> supermop__: that's what happens when you leave the EU
05:44:23 <supermop__> what's absurd is that apparrently 51% of people didn't think of this beforehand
05:45:18 <Sacro> The turkeys have voted for Christma
05:45:44 <supermop__> that is such a british sounding aphorism
05:46:46 <supermop__> hope everyone is really enjoying this
05:47:40 <supermop__> now go out and fish all the north sea cod to extinction
05:49:29 <supermop__> them impressive i've got all along from leave has been that this is nothing about civil soceity and everything about spite and screwing over your allies
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06:10:21 <sim-al2> Pound really fell hard and fast
06:10:33 <sim-al2> Might have to change the base currency to something else :p
06:14:19 <supermop__> need urgent patch for 1.6.x series to make 1 quid = 1 dollar
06:21:59 <supermop__> this is so dispiriting i feel like i should take a sick day tomorrow
06:33:06 <Eddi|zuHause> i still need to puke every time this farage guy opens his mouth
06:36:40 <supermop__> my old company better move headquarters from london back home to frankfurt
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06:59:25 <supermop__> well what's bad for london is bad for new york
06:59:35 <supermop__> tomorrow will be miserable at work
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10:49:32 <peter1138> nobody knows, especially not them
10:50:46 <ccfreak2k> <moebius> Through the annuls of time, one phrase will forever haunt my dreams.
10:50:46 <ccfreak2k> <moebius> "/pol/ was right again."
10:53:43 <Wolf01> what shall I call you now? non-European?
11:03:36 <Wolf01> FTSE MIB 16.003,15 11:03AM CEST Down 1.963,02 (10.93%) <- wonderful
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11:09:29 <Wolf01> as always Italy and Greece never disclaim
11:09:53 <Wolf01> I think I'll invest in the (small) brick, it's safer
11:22:54 <Wolf01> ha! some newspapers published the wrong version, they are saying the UK choose to remain
11:54:58 * Ethereal_Whisper builds a 5-platform 4-TL load-balanced RoRo station for Wolf01
12:02:59 <Wolf01> I'm more worried about my investments, but yeah, still hype
12:04:55 <Wolf01> I'm wondering how much I'll lose this time, with the Lehman Brothers crisis I lost about the 6%, but now I have almost twice the amount invested
14:24:23 <Eddi|zuHause> i think it's another (sad) stepping stone in the slow self-dismantling of the EU, which started about a decade ago with the failed EU "constitution"
14:26:06 <Wolf01> I read about France, Netherlands and Sweden are thinking something now, I give the EU 5 years
14:26:37 <Eddi|zuHause> i was thinking more like 50 years...
14:26:55 <Wolf01> things always escalate quickly
14:37:45 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't see things escalating, really. euroscepticism is still a game of loud minorities
14:40:47 <V453000> definitely not in our country
14:41:01 <V453000> I don't know many pro-eu people actually
14:41:15 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, but your country is weird.
14:42:09 <Wolf01> at least 3 people on 4 I talk to are blaming EU for anything (like the "thanks obama" memes) and I think that if we do a referendum too, maybe we'll get 54-56% for "leave"
14:52:03 <Eddi|zuHause> but there's the point. i don't see a lot of referendums going to pop up. either there are eu-friendly parties in charge, which will not hold a referendum (especially now), or there are eu-sceptic parties in charge, so they don't need a referendum
15:13:50 <Eddi|zuHause> "+680% spike in searches for "Move to Gibraltar" in London since polls closed"
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15:20:52 <Eddi|zuHause> "the pound has given in so much that france has overtaken britain as the 5th largest economy in the world"
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15:48:00 <supermop> i am so upset i couldn't be bothered to wear shoes or long pants to work today
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16:39:32 <supermop> better to buy an apartment in Dublin or Amsterdam?
16:40:16 <supermop> i feel like banking more likely to move to NL but Dublin seems to be what most other americans are predicting
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17:03:41 <supermop> finally have a use for the gbp emoji in regular conversation
17:08:41 <frosch123> supermop: what is the gbp emoji? :£
17:09:04 <supermop> i don't think irc has emoji?
17:09:38 <frosch123> some clients display them like the forums
17:09:49 <frosch123> which sometimes messes up code pastes and such
17:10:19 <supermop> cant paste one into this client
17:10:36 <Eddi|zuHause> the most annoying forum replacement is "8)"
17:10:57 <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: emojis are just UTF8 characters
17:12:30 <frosch123> it's present in my font
17:12:36 <frosch123> i don't get the point though
17:13:10 <Wolf01> but it isn't recognisable because b/w and very little
17:13:58 <supermop> ok that also didn't work
17:14:58 <frosch123> 💶 💵 💴 💷 <- how silly
17:17:18 <frosch123> what about swiss franks?
17:21:43 <supermop> not in unicode emoji yet
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18:02:44 <Eddi|zuHause> holy fuck, it's the first tiny insect this year and it immediately found its way under the screen
18:06:15 <Mazur> Well, that was a bit stupid. #EUref
18:08:17 <Alberth> that's what happens when you let normal people decide on politics :p
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18:09:03 <Mazur> "I voted leave, because I didn't think my vote was going to count, anyway."
18:10:00 <Mazur> Farage already admitted his promises can't be realised.
18:10:29 <Mazur> So glad he waited until now to own up on that one.
18:11:44 <supermop> mazur i think guys like him prefer to be complaining from the outside, rather than win and somehow have to figure out how to make it work
18:12:29 <supermop> Alkel_U3: can't get on today, but did spend some time yesterday to finally get to a position of strength
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18:58:56 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i got this screen in 2011, i don't think there's going to be warranty coverage
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19:33:41 <andythenorth> who’s out next then? o_O
19:35:46 <frosch123> he, i wanted to ask you how much you made :p but then it's the first thing you say
19:36:15 <andythenorth> my Romanian cleaner thought maybe Romexit
19:36:33 <andythenorth> she said if the same vote was in Romania right now, maybe the same result
19:36:37 <frosch123> andythenorth: what about the scottish?
19:36:59 <andythenorth> only if they’re allowed back in the EU
19:38:01 <frosch123> last time i read that they would not be allowed to keep the pound, but would the scotts want euros?
19:39:11 <Alkel_U3> supermop: I admit I didn't touch it in a week
19:39:59 <Alkel_U3> I hope my network didn't enter any sort of vicious wide-area deadlock :-)
19:45:43 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27604 trunk/src/lang/spanish.txt (2016-06-24 19:45:37 +0200 )
19:45:45 <DorpsGek> spanish: 3 changes by SilverSurferZzZ
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19:50:40 <Wolf01> just finished to build another model c, this one is astounding
19:54:10 <andythenorth> at least it’s interesting
19:58:22 <Alkel_U3> my bad, I set up ssl with hsts on my server and didn't realize it would bork my url shortener
20:00:15 <Wolf01> :o I knew about the poison, but not just "8 seeds per day"
20:02:48 <Alkel_U3> I ate a lot more in plum kernels :D
20:03:26 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: that’s good especially the take-down from someone who appears informed
20:04:06 <Wolf01> I eat a lot of almonds, usually toasted, I don't know if they are all from apricots or what
20:04:41 <Wolf01> also I noticed I emptyed my last danish butter cookies box in 3 days...
20:04:58 <andythenorth> handy when that happens
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20:09:28 <Wolf01> uhm, isn't this the period of the strange celebration where drunk people jump around like frogs in gardens?
20:13:25 <Wolf01> I think is known worldwide
20:16:16 <Wolf01> yeah, it is, it might be a good lego model
20:16:52 <Alkel_U3> My hovercraft is full of eels.
20:18:48 <Alkel_U3> Anyone knows how to configure nginx as reverse proxy to acccept HTTP/2 request from the outside for an HTTP 1.1
20:19:00 <Alkel_U3> server on nonstandard port?
20:19:18 <Alkel_U3> I'm failing and can't google anything that works for me
20:19:32 <Wolf01> I tried once with nginx, it worked 1 request every 3, then I proceded to uninstall
20:21:02 <Alkel_U3> it works very well for me even now that I set it up with ssl, hsts and http/2, but the hsts part broke my other http server on that machine
20:21:14 <andythenorth> Rubidium: $roadtypes
20:21:48 <andythenorth> Wolf01: I think I played Quack around about 1996
20:21:53 <andythenorth> but it looked a bit different
20:22:03 <andythenorth> reminds me, I had a dream about being in Quake the other day
20:22:11 <andythenorth> “never mention your dreams"
20:22:23 <Wolf01> I'm draming about not finding a job :(
20:22:32 <andythenorth> Rubidium: I don’t think $roadtypes is such a big job even
20:22:43 <andythenorth> bit tedious finding all the roadtype calls and replacing them
20:23:07 <andythenorth> some drawing code, which I had mostly working in a prototype
20:23:16 <Rubidium> the tedious bits are in newgrf*.*
20:23:24 <andythenorth> I would ignore those initially :P
20:23:34 <supermop> move fast and break things
20:23:52 <andythenorth> I would split road and tram as per frosch123’s suggestion
20:24:01 <andythenorth> and then clean up / extend the implementation
20:24:48 <andythenorth> if I get Road Hog shipped, I might even try again
20:25:02 <andythenorth> but tbh, I get out of my depth, and need collaborators :P
20:35:50 <frosch123> it still confuses me how all the brittish trucks have more axes in the front than in the back
20:36:39 <frosch123> andythenorth: i approve transporting fish in tankers
20:37:04 <frosch123> more interesting graphics than refridgerated box vans
20:37:32 <andythenorth> frosch123: mostly I keep posting those kind of pictures :P
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21:15:46 <Eddi|zuHause> so, i *think* the insect is gone, or maybe i just have terrible vision and it hides in plain sight
21:16:10 <Wolf01> unleash a cat and the insect will go away in no time
21:19:01 <Eddi|zuHause> cat will have at least as much trouble getting to the inside of the screen than i would...
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21:21:26 <Alkel_U3> don't you browse the internet at all? I hear it's full of cats
21:22:08 <Alkel_U3> try some videos of hyperactive kittens, maybe it will scare it off
21:22:21 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, unleash a cat from the inside... that sounds like a plan...
21:23:02 <Eddi|zuHause> you know this quote where a guy wanted to chase away a fly from his screen by wiggling the mouse pointer at it? :p
21:23:51 <Alkel_U3> it souns familiar but I'm unsure I'm not mistaking it for something else
21:24:31 <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't been to bash in years... wasn't it shut down?
21:25:06 <Alkel_U3> I think it was a spider
21:30:16 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, that might be it
21:30:40 <Eddi|zuHause> the screen shot one is also great :p
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22:16:19 <andythenorth> the oil tankers (black) look right in game
22:16:29 <andythenorth> the milk trucks, the bigger capacity ones should be longer?
22:16:45 <andythenorth> there’s no fixed rule in Road Hog now, it depends on the type of cargo and appearance of the truck
22:16:54 <andythenorth> some are longer for bigger, some are all-same-size
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22:23:19 <V453000> the fish inside MUST be visible andythenorth
22:24:19 <andythenorth> I think I keep them same size for now also, less drawing innit
22:24:44 <Alkel_U3> also fishing boats - giant aquaruims moving through water :-)
22:25:02 <Alkel_U3> hm, idea for a wacky set
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22:46:10 <andythenorth> whilst still in the EU
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