IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2016-05-30
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00:20:22 <Samu> it took me 26 GiB in 1212 .sav files to keep all monthly autosaves from Feb 1950 to Jan 2051 on a 4096x4096 map
00:22:16 <Flygon> Now we just need a 16k*16k map
00:22:24 <Flygon> So that becomes 100GiB :3
00:22:39 <Flygon> And each client needing 10GB of RAM
00:24:03 <Samu> oh, my savegame format of choice was zlib:2
00:25:31 <Samu> cpu usage was always 100%, but meh... autosave was always pushing it to 100%
00:26:32 <Samu> at the very few rare times autosave wasn't happening on all servers, cpu usage was still around 95-98%
00:27:22 <Samu> it's official, fx-8150 is a very capable cpu, managed 8x 4096x4096 servers
00:28:10 <Samu> I was spectating all servers, never once it dropped me from the game
00:28:37 <Samu> *from any of the servers
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01:49:36 <Samu> I'd like to submit a patch for flyspray, but I know my coding skills are terrible, :/
01:53:47 <Samu> it wouldn't be accepted as is
01:55:50 <Samu> it's just that, what I've done... works...
01:57:31 <Samu> what can I do with my piece of code in its current state?
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10:59:33 <argoneus> good morning train friends
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12:47:53 <Wolf01> I don't know if I should just make b-models of 7 technic sets, even if they are really ugly, or try the epic quest of making c-models
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13:36:52 <andythenorth> articulated trucks are just a bad idea
13:37:43 <andythenorth> trucks with regular trailers are much less ugly in game
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14:29:39 <TheAmir259> How can i change the name of a client?
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14:33:14 <TheAmir259> How can i change the name of myself in the game?
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15:52:32 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: danmack was last seen in #openttd 5 weeks, 1 day, 21 hours, 17 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <DanMacK> @seen andythenorth
15:52:36 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: pikka was last seen in #openttd 7 weeks, 6 days, 22 hours, 53 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <Pikka> yes
15:57:03 <Samu> I'm back to my ai_gui.cpp, I had an idea to avoid confusion about before/after on AI slots where the before-AI is dead
15:58:41 <Samu> the idea is: upon clicking Accept from the list of Available AIs, delete the dead AI company
16:00:05 <Samu> not as flexible as I intended as first, but it avoids a lot of confusion
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17:32:36 <Wolf01> or another valid reason to browse the web with javascript disabled
17:32:55 <Alberth> you needed more than one? :)
17:33:14 <Wolf01> I only need "it's the web, beware"
17:33:50 <Wolf01> but more reasons aren't to discard, they could always be a lesson
17:34:41 <Alberth> my main reason was "why do you need a turing complete scripting language for reading documents?"
17:34:55 <Wolf01> the nice thing is that I aleady thought about this stuff to protect from copy/paste a content, replacing it with a "lorem ipsum"
17:38:04 <Wolf01> eh, because people are too irritable and they don't want to browse white pages with black text, they want nice animations, ajax, ads... and I'm still here reading paper books
17:39:15 <Islacrusez> people want ads? o.O
17:39:34 <Islacrusez> news to me... I'd outlaw the damn things given half a chance
17:39:54 <Wolf01> oh, you can't even imagine how many people click on those freaking things I only see on other computers
17:40:22 <monsted> there's gotta be someone dumb enough to click the ads. otherwise they wouldn't exist.
17:40:28 <monsted> same goes for scam emails
17:40:29 <Wolf01> "you won $ 100000000000000 and a car, click here"
17:40:53 <Islacrusez> but even legit adverts though
17:40:58 <Wolf01> some scam emails are well done, but the ads...
17:41:19 <Islacrusez> I don't want your shit; if I wanted it I'd have gone looking for it
17:41:34 <monsted> the only ads i click is when i search for something on google and i don't like the company i search for, so i click their paid ad instead of their actual search result.
17:41:44 <Wolf01> also when I worked as a technical help, people told me "he I've seen boobies and I clicked"
17:42:09 <Islacrusez> autoplay audio/video are some of the worst... that should be harassment at best
17:42:18 <monsted> (why the hell would you advertise on google on search results for your own name?)
17:43:11 * Islacrusez goes back to crudely translating from German before the idea of adverts starts winding him up
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18:15:04 <Eddi|zuHause> monsted: what kind of logic is that?
18:15:20 <Eddi|zuHause> also, how do you still get adverts on google results?
18:20:25 <monsted> Eddi|zuHause: adblock pro has an option to allow non-annoying ads
18:20:47 <Eddi|zuHause> monsted: which is obviously the most evil part of adblock...
18:21:17 <monsted> it's an option. just don't enable it.
18:21:18 <Eddi|zuHause> "hey, nice advertising business you have there. would be a shame if users couldn't see it."
18:21:55 <Eddi|zuHause> that is precisely what the company behind adblock plus is being sued over currently.
18:22:16 <Islacrusez> that's a bit backwards
18:22:40 <Islacrusez> "Nice adverts you have there, we'll let users choose to show your ads"
18:22:57 <Islacrusez> as opposed to the logical opposite of that feature which is: No ads.
18:23:18 <Eddi|zuHause> Islacrusez: yes. "Nice restaurant you hav there. we'll let you keep it [if you pay us]"
18:23:48 <Islacrusez> Nice restaurant you have there, we'll let you keep it if you comply with health and safety laws?
18:24:19 <monsted> if it's being abused, i'm fine with punishing them for it. for now, i give the web sites a little handout by letting them show ads, as long as they're not annoying.
18:24:58 <Islacrusez> last time I checked, ABP weren't running an extortion racket (unlike, say, Yelp)
18:24:59 <Wolf01> Nice restaurant you have there, let's fix and add new features to ottd
18:25:11 <Eddi|zuHause> for the record: i don't think there is a thing such as non-annoying ads
18:25:28 <monsted> and if i need info about a product i don't like (say, windows 10) and microsoft runs an ad that gets me the info i need, i'll click the ad and cost them a few cents instead of clicking the normal link.
18:25:41 <Islacrusez> if the reality is different from their claims; sue away. otherwise, make decent ads
18:26:42 <Islacrusez> advertising has been allowed free for too long; if they didn't take such oppressive liberties previously, they wouldn't have this problem now
18:29:09 <monsted> fortunately, i haven't signed anything saying i have to give a shit about the inane things people get upset about
18:30:34 <Islacrusez> monsted: I think it's section 317 subsection gamma in your social contract ;)
18:31:07 <Alberth> some pages got lost :p
18:31:22 <monsted> Islacrusez: if you check the archives, you'll notice that mine appears to be signed by "Santa Claws"
18:32:28 <Islacrusez> touche on both counts
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18:40:41 <Wolf01> he remembers when you leave
18:41:38 <Eddi|zuHause> no, because of your quit message...
18:42:34 <Wolf01> look at the size of those drops
18:42:53 <Eddi|zuHause> drop size approaching 0...
18:44:28 <Wolf01> I heared about that, but I didn't look for the article... that's bad
18:46:37 <Ethereal_Whisper> Well, I'm screwed
18:46:44 <Ethereal_Whisper> I don't know where else to rant about this
19:11:55 <_dp_> dammit, just when I finished aligning stuff I realized default font is not monospaced
19:12:40 <Eddi|zuHause> what kind of "default" and what kind of "ugly"?
19:16:14 <Eddi|zuHause> and if i ask you what time it is, you say "spring"?
19:17:13 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, that was the other option i considered :p
19:19:38 <_dp_> there is only one font that comes with openttd afaik
19:25:20 <FLHerne> _dp_: Not well aliased, because of the palette?
19:25:42 <FLHerne> And then it's really fat to compensate
19:26:07 <Eddi|zuHause> _dp_: no, the default font depends on the base set you are using
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19:31:18 <_dp_> Eddi|zuHause, oh, didn't think of that
19:34:16 <_dp_> FLHerne, actually, just noticed that main reason for its terrible look is that I use double interface size
19:34:24 <_dp_> on normal it looks kinda ok
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19:59:05 <frosch123> but I guess zuu is the only one with knowledge in that area
20:01:35 <frosch123> if it is at fault, yes
20:05:34 <frosch123> or whether they are big and near the map border
20:12:31 <_dp_> I'd bet on map border, otherwise it would slow down smoothly
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20:24:36 <Samu> I made this piece of code: static int CurrentNoAIs(bool include_dead = true) { bla;bla } but I got a question
20:25:00 <Samu> if I use it like CurrentNoAIs() , does it defauld include_dead to true?
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21:24:12 <Samu> hmm nevermind that request
21:26:16 <Samu> how do I synchronize a value over a network?
21:26:19 <Samu> GetGameSettings().difficulty.max_no_competitors
21:28:47 <Samu> only happens on multiplayer
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22:28:04 <Samu> is this good english? STR_ERROR_AI_CAN_T_START_IN_MULTIPLAYER :{WHITE}Can't start AI in multiplayer game...{}Must allow AI computer players to participate in multiplayer games
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22:31:11 <Samu> what would be the Warning Level?
22:31:56 <Samu> WL_ERROR, WL_WARNING, WL_INFO ? what's the most ideal one for this case?
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22:41:22 <Samu> On second thought... screw the error message
22:41:44 <Samu> just force enable the setting
22:42:31 <Samu> at this point, if someone clicks a button that says "Start AI" - then he really wants an AI to start
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23:03:18 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27594 trunk/src/script/api/script_list.cpp (2016-05-30 23:03:11 +0200 )
23:03:19 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#6473]: [Script] Kill scripts, when a non-suspendable valuator call takes way too long.
23:25:25 <Samu> on a third though... I need that error message, or it could potentially start more AIs without notice
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