IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2016-01-15
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00:13:41 <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: if only the game actually ran that smoothly with such a rocket :p
00:14:12 <argoneus> it does if you aren't on a patato
00:14:38 <Eddi|zuHause> i think my radeon hd 7750 counts as "potato" then
00:16:33 <argoneus> it's like lower-middle class
01:13:33 <Eddi|zuHause> argoneus: yeah, i didn't feel like paying 300€ for a card...
01:14:03 <Eddi|zuHause> so i took this one which was something like 100€
01:14:24 <argoneus> Eddi|zuHause: well you can't expect a 4 year old $100 card to be good
01:14:41 <argoneus> KSP isn't very well optimized
01:14:48 <argoneus> and I'd assume it's more your CPU than GPU when it lags
01:15:22 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it was a major step up from my previous one, which was an onboard 4xxx
01:15:46 <Eddi|zuHause> my cpu is quite alright, though
01:16:04 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it's also 5 years old now
01:16:33 <Eddi|zuHause> was a phenom II x6 dunnoexactly
01:17:52 <Eddi|zuHause> Phenom II X6 1055T 6x2.8GHz
01:18:25 <Eddi|zuHause> it was certainly more expensive than the gpu :p
01:18:27 <argoneus> the phenom single core performance isn't amazing
01:18:46 <argoneus> now I have a haswell i5 and it's night and day
01:18:49 <argoneus> granted it was a bit more expensive
01:19:17 <argoneus> AMD sucks at cpu heavy games (read: shitty optimization and bad threading)
01:19:19 <argoneus> it also sucks at emulation
01:22:07 <argoneus> Eddi|zuHause: it's fairly worth it to invest in GPUs though
01:22:21 <argoneus> if you buy the current middle-highend for $350, you can sell it a year later for like $250
01:22:24 <argoneus> and buy another $350
01:22:45 <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds like way too much hassle
01:23:18 <argoneus> I'm happy with my GTX 770 atm
02:08:06 <supermop> my cpu is now 6 years old
02:20:51 <Eddi|zuHause> you need to send it to school then
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02:32:25 <supermop> drinking kolsch out of a tiny glass as intended here
02:32:49 <supermop> was the only good option for filling up my growler this week
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10:19:28 <dihedral> what nick did Dominik Scherer have here?
10:31:07 <planetmaker> "... I mean mainly enabling the 8bpp blitter which many players want to do, and now do through the config which is a bit eww ..." <-- yes... but there's really no reason. The 8bpp blitter nowadays most often doesn't offer much benefit... only thing I'm not sure about atm is palette animation
10:32:01 <planetmaker> as such it's a purely technical setting which users don't have to care about one way or another, as you can use the 8bpp graphics just fine with the default 32bpp blitter
10:32:25 <V453000> well if 32bpp has performance issues, 8bpp helps ... also, when people join a server which uses 32bpp graphics and want to turn them to 8bpp mode, they could
10:34:43 <V453000> especially since 32bpp newgrfs have to supply their 8bpp sprites as well, it is very visual switch, not just technical
10:35:03 <V453000> the fact that 32bpp newgrfs do not give much shit about 8bpp sprites is another story, yeah
10:35:04 <planetmaker> that is the more weired thing really ;)
10:35:14 <planetmaker> the 32bpp newgrfs have to have 8bpp
10:35:51 <V453000> yes, well ... it is kind of understandable, I do not believe 8bpp will ever stop being "the main thing"
10:38:23 <peter1138> we should drop 32bpp
10:38:38 <peter1138> also drop extra zoom, that's crap too
10:41:15 <peter1138> shame that opengl is inefficient for this type of game
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16:30:45 <Rubidium> it also reduces the size of OpenTTD significantly because we can remove everything user-interface
16:35:39 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: not rigorous enough
16:36:05 <Eddi|zuHause> ./configure --enable-dedicated?
16:36:14 <peter1138> just remove the code
16:36:19 <peter1138> else you might have bugs
16:36:30 <Eddi|zuHause> bugs in dead code are the worst.
16:37:40 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: nope, still leaves loading strings and such
16:37:42 <peter1138> they often... roam...
16:54:29 <Wolf01> now I'm happy, I just purchased 450€ of LEGO
16:57:01 <Eddi|zuHause> studies show that happiness from objects doesn't last very long
16:57:27 <Eddi|zuHause> (one of the reasons why "more money" doesn't automatically mean "happier")
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17:25:01 <dihedral> until you tred on it
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18:09:31 <frosch123> everyday i read "Australian AuzTrains and NSFWTrains" ...
18:09:35 <frosch123> i had too much internet
18:11:39 * frosch123 wonders whether BRIX ships will just be boxes with "don't use ships"
18:11:43 <Alberth> or not enough topics :p
18:13:16 <Alberth> hmm, needs articulated ships then :p
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18:17:25 <Eddi|zuHause> isn't that already wetrails?
18:18:01 <Eddi|zuHause> well, in TTO you could run trains on water, but only on diagonal shore sections
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20:30:59 <Aphanasiy> could you, please help me to find some russian mods, except xUSSR
20:32:25 <frosch123> Aphanasiy: forums.ttdrussia.net <- try there
20:32:38 <frosch123> oh, it does note exist anymore?
20:33:05 <Aphanasiy> it's died, so I'm here
20:33:19 <frosch123> then, i doubt there are any except xussr
20:34:04 <Aphanasiy> any ways to connect with ttdtussia admin?
20:34:38 <Aphanasiy> maybe try to find out from Only For Friends?
20:36:34 <frosch123> if that site is gone, i don't know where they could have went
20:36:40 <frosch123> they did not show up on tt-forums
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21:07:39 <supermop> hmm you cant build a bridge under a bridge
21:07:54 <frosch123> you can build a bridgehead under a bridge
21:08:49 <supermop> was wondering if i could have a rail deck under a road deck
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21:11:45 <supermop> wish you could start a game directly from SE
21:13:55 <Wolf01> iirc you could build some types of bridges over some others, but with some limitations (2 levels between the bridges) or that was discarded because of glitches?
21:16:06 <supermop> doesnt seem to work even with 3 levels btw
21:16:29 <Wolf01> have you tried with a suspended bridge?
21:19:33 <supermop> brb need to buy either a 150cm board or aluminum L-angle as the joists in my ceiling go the wrong way relative to direction i want to suspend my bike
21:22:38 <Wolf01> mmmh I bet that feature was in MiniIN
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21:57:39 <Wolf01> I was really addicted to patches at that time
21:58:38 <Wolf01> now I play every game vanilla, with some exceptions (skyrim, minecraft...)
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22:07:16 <supermop> i play vanilla or similar up until a naging feeling tells me it would be much nicer if i just had one different building or train etc in there,
22:07:46 <supermop> then i spend a couple hundred hours down a rabbit hole drawing or modelling stuff on that idea
22:08:20 <supermop> the i realized it's a huge pain, and give up for a few months
22:08:53 <supermop> few months later i'm bored and think, ok i'll just play a quick, small vanilla game
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23:58:14 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 2*290*sqrt(2)
23:58:14 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 820.243866176
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