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06:55:35  <Flygon> What was the speed limit for 2 tile long curves, again?

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06:56:34  <Flygon> Oh, dear

06:56:36  <Flygon> 111km/h

06:56:43  <Flygon> Craaaap :(

06:57:13  <Dakkus> flygon: https://wiki.openttd.org/Game_Mechanics#Vehicle_Speeds

06:57:48  <Dakkus> Aha, you found it quicker yourself :)

06:58:19  <Flygon> I forgot where the article was x.x

06:58:21  <Flygon> Basically...

06:58:26  <Flygon> Had a busy junction

06:58:28  <Flygon> But cramped room

06:58:38  <Flygon> But had to put in a free flowing high speed junction...

06:59:19  <Flygon> I COULD probably make three of the leafs in the cloverlead good for 132km/h

06:59:24  <Flygon> But one's actually not in use

06:59:40  <Flygon> And one that NEEDS speedening can't be done

06:59:48  <Flygon> If I had access to curved bridges or tunnels

06:59:54  <Flygon> I'd have a waaay more compact interchange

06:59:58  <Flygon> Though, even THEN

07:00:09  <Flygon> Building a stack interchange needs more powerful locomotives

07:00:15  <Flygon> And most of the traffic atm is FREIGHT

07:00:24  <Flygon> And that hates the climbing :|

07:02:03  <Flygon> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2651992/Art/Other/openttdlansingfreeflowcloverleaf.png I'm screeeewed. Dammit Lansing.

07:02:46  <Flygon> Hopefully

07:02:50  <Flygon> It actually won't be a problem

07:02:56  <Flygon> And pax won't need to use the cloverleaf at all

07:03:17  <Flygon> And I build pax lines around it, and grow suburbia around it

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08:47:38  <andythenorth> o/

08:48:38  <frosch123> hoin

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11:01:57  <Flygon> I... uhm

11:02:07  <Flygon> Take it the 2CC Tram Set isn't designed for realistic acceleration?

11:02:32  <frosch123> how old is it?

11:02:47  <Flygon> Going by the forums

11:02:48  <Rubidium> well, a 2cc engine doesn't sound very powerfull or realistic

11:02:49  <Flygon> Pretty new

11:03:01  <Flygon> Rudibium: Actually

11:03:11  <Flygon> Some of the Trams have TE and HP ratings for realistic

11:03:16  <Flygon> Others have null strings

11:03:39  <Flygon> Yeah, the readme is copyrighted 2015

11:04:21  <frosch123> ok, i thought it was from 2010 or older :p

11:04:35  <Flygon> Yeah

11:04:37  <Flygon> Sorry x.x

11:04:44  <Flygon> Lemme grab the topic

11:04:51  <Flygon> Knowing me

11:05:04  <Flygon> I'm idiotic enough to overlook features being unimplemented

11:05:15  <Flygon> Oh noo

11:05:20  <Flygon> The Snow Theme's back :(

11:05:25  <Flygon> It's Summer what is this :(

11:06:04  * Rubidium wonders how long it takes before the Christmas songs are going to be changed

11:06:12  <Flygon> Odd

11:06:17  <Flygon> It's disappeared... I... sorry

11:06:29  <frosch123> Rubidium: heard about that austrian radio guy?

11:06:44  <frosch123> Flygon: it's all from 2014

11:06:57  <Flygon> I swear the topic was posted in recently

11:07:00  <Flygon> Why can't I find it

11:07:06  <Flygon> I've dun goofed

11:07:16  <frosch123> Flygon: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/trams-2cc <- it's all there

11:07:32  <frosch123> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/trams-2cc/repository/show/src/vehicles <- and it uses ini files :)

11:08:19  <frosch123> those files contain "weight" and "power", so realistic acceleration should work/is intended

11:08:43  <Flygon> I've lost my marbles

11:09:18  <Rubidium> frosch123: I can't say I'm familiar with Austrian radio (or Australian for that matter)

11:09:51  <Rubidium> are you sure copyright doesn't say 2005-2010 and your mind messes that up to 2015?

11:09:55  <frosch123> basically some moderator had some kind of "breakdown", locked himself inside the studio and broadcasted "last christmas" no stop for 3 hours

11:10:23  <Flygon> frosch123: I get the feeling that the Bananas version might be outdated

11:11:02  <Flygon> Rubidium: The .grf's own URL links back to the openttdcoop link frosch123 linked

11:11:06  <Flygon> So

11:11:34  <Flygon> I'm pretty sure the .grf doesn't date back to when .grf was more popularly known for being the stuff that broke Ragnarok Online patchers and had me screaming at a craptacular CRT xP

11:13:31  <frosch123> Flygon: according to the devzone repository, nothing changed about acceleration till 0.1.0-beta2

11:14:39  <Rubidium> frosch123: till as in, looking through revisions in reverse order?

11:14:58  <Flygon> The one on Bananas is 0.10-beta2

11:15:45  <Flygon> Erm, 0.1.0

11:17:06  <frosch123> Rubidium: yeah, "since" :)

11:18:02  <Flygon> Weird...

11:18:24  <Flygon> Hmm

11:19:16  <Flygon> Might have to compile the 'latest' and insert it manually and hope that doesn't break the entire savegame

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11:54:18  <Eddi|zuHause> bäh, KSP is ever so crashy...

12:01:15  <argoneus> merry christmas train friends

12:01:52  <argoneus> Eddi|zuHause: doesn't crash for me

12:01:59  <argoneus> mods?

12:02:22  <Eddi|zuHause> nope

12:02:42  <Eddi|zuHause> go to the tutorial, works fine, exit to menu, go to (same or other) tutorial: crash

12:03:08  <Eddi|zuHause> also, it crashes quite often when adding parts with weird symmetry

12:03:11  <argoneus> weird

12:03:13  <Eddi|zuHause> and when going to the launchpad

12:03:15  <argoneus> i havent had a single crash yet

12:03:17  <argoneus> windows?

12:03:22  <Eddi|zuHause> linux

12:03:26  <argoneus> Ahh.

12:03:27  <argoneus> that's why

12:03:36  <argoneus> unity isn't friends with linux apparently

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12:16:08  <andythenorth> bah

12:16:25  <andythenorth> I am trying to make FIRS industries more diverse in appearance

12:16:28  <andythenorth> and less copy-paste

12:16:40  <andythenorth> the next one to draw is Pyrite Processor (ore -> chemicals, metal)

12:16:54  <andythenorth> but IRL it looks like the Copper Refinery :P

12:17:25  <andythenorth> due to, eh, refining copper and refining pyrite are very similar processes based around sulphuric acid :P

12:17:41  <andythenorth> AIUI, some pyrite is even copper-bearing

12:17:52  <andythenorth> what larks

12:19:16  <Eddi|zuHause> i think you're worrying about details nobody will ever notice

12:20:52  <frosch123> andythenorth: the pictures for pyrite roaster look very different to your copper refinery

12:22:42  <frosch123> the tanks all loook closed

12:23:29  <frosch123> also, you can vary the graphics by putting tanks horizontally instead of vertically

12:23:38  <frosch123> alter their size etc

12:24:25  <frosch123> http://www.cim.org/~/media/Images/Publications-Technical-Resources/Publications/CIM-Magazine/2009/MarApr09/history/5.ashx?la=en <- horizontal tanks

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12:24:50  <frosch123> http://www.outotec.com/PageFiles/12183/roasting_500x700.jpg <- closed tank instead of pool

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12:30:40  <andythenorth> I guess there are different definitions of ‘similar’ :D

12:30:59  <andythenorth> I am looking at big pipes, tanks, and girder-frameworks, and thinking ‘same’ :P

12:31:22  <frosch123> you also drew 3 farms

12:32:07  <frosch123> and how many ports?

12:32:30  <frosch123> yeah, i think the chemical plants are your smallest problem there :p

12:33:19  <andythenorth> how about this one? http://ljplus.ru/img4/f/r/fred16/IMG_7382.jpg

12:33:20  <andythenorth> o_O

12:33:45  <frosch123> haha, nice pile :)

12:33:45  <V453000> that looks sick

12:34:12  <andythenorth> sulphuric acid plant

12:34:34  <andythenorth> dunno if that has anything to do with pyrite, but looks good eh?

12:34:50  <andythenorth> that, a crusher, and a big roasting building

12:35:13  <V453000> I like the huge and many pipes going out/to it

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12:44:20  <Eddi|zuHause> looks abandoned to me

12:45:56  <andythenorth> it is

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12:45:58  <andythenorth> now dismantled

12:46:01  <andythenorth> ukraine or so

12:51:02  <andythenorth> I never did like this plastics plant http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/industries.html#plastics_plant

12:51:08  <andythenorth> maybe that needs redrawn also :P

12:51:31  <andythenorth> super bland

12:54:24  <Flygon> Seems 2CC Trams is broken on Original too

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12:56:18  <Wolf01> o/

12:59:57  <Flygon> Eyy :3

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13:34:48  <Amis> Hi! Is it normal for the desert map to have transmitters all over it? It feels pretty out of space. (1.5.3)

13:35:41  <Amis> Well, place*

13:38:03  <frosch123> many transmitters is normal, but they are more noticeable in desert than in rainforest

13:38:28  <frosch123> the map generators are pretty broken in 1.5, depending on settings you may have very much desert

13:44:32  <Amis> I see, I wasn't sure if they were there before since I just upgraded to 1.5 from some 1.4. I guess there's no way to disable it other than using the magic bulldozer

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14:54:44  * andythenorth wonders about automating FIRS ‘conflicting industry’ check

14:55:02  <andythenorth> manually specifying conflicts across multiple economies is fail

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19:45:20  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27477 /trunk/src/lang (greek.txt polish.txt) (2015-12-24 19:45:14 +0100 )

19:45:21  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:

19:45:22  <DorpsGek> greek - 76 changes by Ferrum

19:45:23  <DorpsGek> polish - 1 changes by ampersand

19:45:37  <peter1138> hmm, doom3... was that really 2004...

19:51:40  <Rubidium> feels like yesterday?

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