IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2015-12-23
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00:07:38 <glx> frosch123: it's not closed on top
00:09:27 <frosch123> you are back to bags, right?
00:10:46 <glx> but it's usually only used as final delivery
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02:05:23 <Cybernator> Hello im looking for someone who could help me with the android version i got a bluetooth mouse connected and i see both android cursor and openttd one id like to hide one of them thanks!
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02:49:43 <glx> we don't make the android version
03:08:32 <Cybernator> Hey glx where could i ask instead? Thanks
03:16:23 <Eddi|zuHause> there's a thread in the forum
03:22:07 <glx> and I think it's more related to the libsdl android port than openttd
03:22:55 <glx> because openttd tells sdl to hide the cursor
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08:24:42 <Rubidium> not "longest day of the year" cat?
08:25:05 <andythenorth> was that yesterday?
08:25:24 * andythenorth doesn’t know much about equinoxes
08:25:58 <Rubidium> oh, it's even weirder
08:26:54 <andythenorth> oh it’s solstice not equinox :P
08:26:55 <Rubidium> in any case, now it takes about 24 hours and 30 seconds for the sun to go from highest point in the sky to highest point in the sky
08:28:01 <andythenorth> and it’s instant around the world :o
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10:47:09 <Flygon> Does anyone else run ground-level railroads between streets/buildings before Road Vehicles can pick up the slack?
10:47:23 <Flygon> aka. grabbing straws to justify 2CC Railmotors xP
11:03:54 <Flygon> Where's the Object Transparency Toggle?
11:03:58 <Flygon> I'm tripping the heck out
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11:08:49 <Eddi|zuHause> you suck dutch wooden shoes?
11:09:02 <Eddi|zuHause> is that a fetishß
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11:09:29 <andythenorth> did I arrive at the wrong time?
11:09:51 <Eddi|zuHause> no, it's not about when you arrive, but that you leave at all...
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11:18:47 <blathijs> Eddi|zuHause: Those would be klompen, not clocks :-)
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11:22:38 <Flygon> Same word in Finnish phonology!
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13:42:15 <argoneus> good morning train friends
13:43:01 * andythenorth apparently has a smaller than expected tax bill
13:43:14 <andythenorth> £6500 smaller than expected :o
13:44:33 <Flygon> You know you're playing early era OpenTTD
13:44:46 <Flygon> When it's preferable to have a flat junction instead of an incline
13:46:36 <Rubidium> andythenorth: I'd like that as well
13:47:25 <andythenorth> I am not yet sure I believe it
13:53:35 <Rubidium> is it actually income tax or something else
13:54:17 <Rubidium> I'd wonder why you get that expected number right now
13:55:13 <frosch123> yeah, usually all companies do their tax stuff between christmas and sylvester
13:55:18 <frosch123> andy is way too early
13:55:55 <Rubidium> because for next year the tax rules have just been agreed upon, so they wouldn't have managed to give any real clue about that and this year hasn't ended yet... so how do you know how much income you had this year?
13:56:23 <andythenorth> 2014-15 tax year
13:56:51 <Rubidium> from when to when are your tax years then?
13:57:07 <andythenorth> April - March following year
13:57:41 <andythenorth> file the return in December, pay in January
13:59:15 <andythenorth> but I also have to pay ‘on account’ for the next year
13:59:22 <andythenorth> which is an estimated amount
13:59:52 <andythenorth> because the ‘on account’ estimation was way too high, I’ve already paid the entire tax bill, so nothing to pay in Jan
14:00:13 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: unlike the cat and the action guy, it's actually spelled "silvester"
14:00:14 <andythenorth> the estimation was too high because I earnt a lot less
14:00:33 <andythenorth> so eh, I’ve already paid full tax AND I earnt less, but to me that still feels like a win
14:00:55 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: did you figure out meanwhile what a "verschärfte waffenruhe" means?
14:02:48 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: "verschärft" would mean that it's an enforced measure in the first place
14:02:53 <frosch123> i already have a 2, and i do not want a 4
14:03:07 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: i meant to hit backspace, but hit enter instead
14:03:24 <Eddi|zuHause> (one of my most common typing errors)
14:03:52 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: also i hit 2, instead of shift+2
14:04:31 <Eddi|zuHause> so, why is KSP so crashy?
14:04:52 <Eddi|zuHause> in the 3 days i played, it crashed like 10 times
14:06:13 <Eddi|zuHause> also, how do i get a satellite in orbit? i can't navigate the thrust direction to fire the engine...
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14:17:03 <Rubidium> can't you remote control it in some manner?
14:17:42 <Rubidium> then a bit of prograde burn at the right moment ought to do it (or am I talking non-sense now?)
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14:18:29 <andythenorth> I couldn’t even start engines in KSP
14:18:44 <andythenorth> I could only make my kerbal bail out of the module
14:19:00 * andythenorth has told that boring story before :|
14:20:51 <Mazur> Is that what you told your wife last night?
14:21:21 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: have you found the space bar yet?
14:21:54 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: i can control stages remotely, but i can't adjust the direction it turns (maybe i need to research some maneuver engines?)
14:22:38 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: but leaving at the launch pad is one of the easiest ways to get early science :p
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15:55:32 <Eddi|zuHause> ah, i researched some gyro thingie, now i can steer the satellite
16:07:55 <frosch123> hmm, 300 pieces of rail track was not enough
16:10:27 <Rubidium> either you took too short pieces of rail, or you're making a really long bit of rail
16:15:17 <Eddi|zuHause> that just gets you like 5 times around the carpet
16:16:26 <Rubidium> well, I can get a single piece of 360 m of rail dropped about 20 meters in front of my door
16:17:29 <V453000> making rail tracks makes zero fuckin sense.
16:17:39 <V453000> I havent done anything in openttd which would be more messy
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16:20:37 <V453000> I totally do not get this
16:20:49 <V453000> when Irender things, straight tiles end at blue points
16:21:16 <V453000> but this track model (the grey lines)
16:21:21 <V453000> do meet in the game correctly
16:21:54 <V453000> I would expect the gray models to meet in the blue points if it was correct
16:23:07 <V453000> but through trial and error, red points seem to be right
16:23:22 <Rubidium> smells like something is cut off somewhere in the process of creating the sprites
16:23:23 <Eddi|zuHause> so... next step is actually figuring out how much fuel i need to stabilize the orbit
16:23:25 <V453000> am I missing something or is this just pure wtf without explanation? XD
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16:24:11 <frosch123> V453000: count the sleepers?
16:24:14 <V453000> guess the diagonals are done wrongly, but I dont see how is that possible
16:24:15 <Rubidium> the grey line pattern with red dots would give the area I would expect to the "returned"
16:24:32 <frosch123> there are 5 in game
16:24:50 <frosch123> or 7, depending how you count
16:25:15 <V453000> maybe the camera is too close
16:25:57 <V453000> the last sleeper is invisible only because it is below ground
16:26:04 <V453000> so it is cut off, that is expeted
16:26:31 <V453000> the track tops are at Z=0, to make them align correctly
16:28:57 <V453000> I will try to make the correct model and then get it to work somehow, and lets see where the issue lies
16:29:01 <V453000> but this is really weird
16:43:00 <Eddi|zuHause> yay, i gots myself an orbit!
16:43:12 <Eddi|zuHause> (that was kinda close, though)
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16:57:11 <V453000> ok I dont know the source of the issue but I had some form of scaling applied which made it work
16:57:16 <V453000> I cant see how but yeah
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17:37:19 <alluke> ahh all music sounds perfect in the car now
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18:58:59 <Eddi|zuHause> so... building an airplane was a total failure... am i missing something?
19:15:06 <alluke> if wagon broadside is 22px how long are the other directions?
19:15:23 <Eddi|zuHause> they are all wrong...
19:15:31 <Eddi|zuHause> some more than others
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19:45:14 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27476 trunk/src/lang/german.txt (2015-12-23 19:45:08 +0100 )
19:45:15 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
19:45:16 <DorpsGek> german - 2 changes by mini1025
19:55:10 <Eddi|zuHause> yay. plane is in the air...
19:55:19 <Eddi|zuHause> not sure what i do with it. or how i land...
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19:57:05 <frosch123> don't remove the last airport, or it may run out of fuel
20:04:21 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... not this way...
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21:01:24 <Eddi|zuHause> i think i should just land planes by parachute :p
21:04:53 <andythenorth> people I know are quitting quite frequently
21:07:06 <Rubidium> andythenorth: I don't have an intention to quit fb any time soon
21:07:39 * andythenorth makes an assumption about your current membership status on fb
21:07:52 <Rubidium> even then, if people are quitting quite frequently, does that mean they rejoin fb quite frequently as well?
21:14:20 <andythenorth> quiet forum is quiet
21:17:31 <Eddi|zuHause> probably means something is brewing
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21:29:06 <alluke> fb removed my video even when i changed the soundtrack to two-penny cover version instead of the original
21:29:58 <Eddi|zuHause> a cover version does not circumvent the copyright of the original author
21:30:11 <alluke> either the cover was too close to original or fb just sucks really deep
21:31:01 <Eddi|zuHause> there is no practical way to get a cover "far away" from the original
21:31:23 <alluke> well if i had played it in piano and sung by myself it prolly would have stayed
21:31:46 <alluke> and that way the composer and lyricist wouldnt have got any royalties either
21:32:02 <Eddi|zuHause> german copyright even specifies "as long as you can recognize the melody, the original copyright applies"
21:32:05 <Rubidium> hell, if it contained "happy birthday" a year ago sung by you it could even be removed
21:32:32 <alluke> im happy the german copyright laws are just german
21:32:37 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: only if you'd sung the text. the melody was already "free"
21:35:43 <Eddi|zuHause> oh... i still have a half-eaten bar of chocolate... how did that happen? :p
21:35:45 <Rubidium> anyhow... copyright enforcement is occasionally quite stupid/pointless
21:36:11 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: your cat dragged it away?
21:36:49 <Eddi|zuHause> cats don't usuually touch chocolate
21:39:05 <alluke> youtube doesnt secretly accept videos with still image anymore
21:39:27 <alluke> they get stuck at processing 95% no matter what codecs or container
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22:20:34 <alluke> how long should \ I / be if ___ is 22px?
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