IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2015-12-15
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01:11:17 <MDaxo> i have a question for you openttd'ers
01:11:24 <MDaxo> What level do you usually build your rails at
01:12:06 <MDaxo> Wolf01, thing is that rails have to be at a constant elevation since slopes slow down electric engines
01:12:12 <MDaxo> so you have to pick on elevation
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01:12:51 <Wolf01> nah, enable the right setting or use a grf which addresses the problem
01:13:07 <Wolf01> or just put more engines on the same train
01:13:17 <MDaxo> still i like to have my tracks level
01:14:25 <ST2> as some already said: the good is enemy of the optimal ^^
01:16:37 <ST2> and if you're playing SP game, never forget the CTRL+ALT+C cheat window :P
01:17:11 <ST2> if on a MP server game, well... just comply with limitations and try the best out of it ;)
01:46:23 <_dp_> always funny to see people continuing to build stupid tunnels even with realistic acceleration :)
02:05:46 <ST2> well _dp_, I was still waiting that MDaxo had something to say more. Because SP and MP games can differ A LOT (as known ^^)
02:07:14 <ST2> "something more to say"* (correction - better late then never;)
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02:48:41 <argoneus> good night train friends
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13:42:57 <V453000> gg I do not like CS one bit :P
13:43:30 <Wolf01> do you happen to draw pixel art sprites too or just render 3d models?
13:44:11 <V453000> pixel art was NUTS only, now I only do 3D models
13:44:47 <Wolf01> k, maybe i'll wait for andy
13:44:56 <V453000> what do you need to know?
13:45:20 <Wolf01> i'm looking to draw an animated top-down tank for my game, cartoon style
13:47:15 <V453000> depends on the other styling of the game
13:47:20 <V453000> but should be relatively easy
13:47:25 <Wolf01> i have to do all the graphics
13:49:55 <Wolf01> only tracks are animated (that one is a single frame), and the turret is fixed because the game doesn't need it
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14:57:30 <argoneus> good morning train friends
15:00:54 <argoneus> afternoon for you maybe
15:01:00 <argoneus> real men wake up after lunch
15:06:15 <Eddi|zuHause> so you eat lunch in your sleep?
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15:12:53 <FR^2> only while playing openttd
15:30:37 <Eddi|zuHause> so you eat lunch in your sleep while you play openttd in your sleep?
15:37:47 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm just trying to determine whether we are talking about the empty set
15:38:49 <Eddi|zuHause> but it's surprisingly tricky to ask the members of the empty set whether they are members of the empty set
15:38:57 <Wolf01> meh... i have 1.283s of ping
15:39:23 <Eddi|zuHause> i get upgraded to a 50/10 line in the next week
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18:23:02 <arroyoc> Hi, I uploaded a quick patch to FlySpray
18:23:51 <arroyoc> it improves the build system on Haiku (BeOS clone)
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19:13:21 <planetmaker> arroyoc, what makes sure that the variable $includeDir is set?
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19:17:12 <arroyoc> planetmaker: Haiku sets that variable
19:18:15 <arroyoc> The patch has been working since 12 january 2014
19:19:08 <arroyoc> but only in our ports tree
19:19:31 <arroyoc> now we want to upstream the patch
19:20:14 <argoneus> forgive me ignorance
19:20:23 <argoneus> but what can Haiku offer compared to other, mainstream OS's?
19:20:34 <argoneus> I've never even heard of it
19:22:14 <glx> ha yes it's a kind of BEOS
19:22:34 <arroyoc> argoneus, a BeOS clone
19:23:09 <Eddi|zuHause> arroyoc: that isn't really an answer to the question
19:23:31 <arroyoc> BeFS, BeAPI, threads and an addon system
19:23:55 <argoneus> why would I install Haiku on my computer rather than Windows or a Linux distro
19:25:03 <argoneus> it seems to be fairly mature and with a lot of support
19:26:20 <arroyoc> still missing some first class software
19:26:35 <arroyoc> for example a good web browser like Firefox (we have a WebKit port but it doesn't work very well)
19:26:51 <argoneus> so it's just a for-enthusiasts operating system right now?
19:27:00 <argoneus> not meant for production usage
19:27:28 <arroyoc> maybe the internals are ready, but still missing libraries and apps
19:28:09 <arroyoc> Eddi|zuHause: well, I can use a command to get the environment variable, will it be accepted?
19:28:42 <Eddi|zuHause> arroyoc: i meant the other question...
19:29:13 <Eddi|zuHause> arroyoc: i am neither qualified nor authorized for such a decision
19:32:42 <arroyoc> the last year we merged the Package Manageent system, which makes the system read-only (only /home is writable), I don't know if other Linux distros offer such isolation
19:33:26 <argoneus> if you aren't root then you already have that isolation
19:33:37 <argoneus> if you aren't root or a user with special permissions*
19:34:23 <planetmaker> arroyoc, yeah, I mostly wonder(ed) whether it's one which you set or which the system always sets. In the latter case it's fine, in the first I'd like to see some provision which checks for it being set
19:34:36 <planetmaker> as I've no means to test myself, thus I'm asking :)
19:39:08 <arroyoc> planetmaker, if you want to be sure just declare includeDir=`finddir B_SYSTEM_HEADERS_DIRECTORY`
19:39:33 <arroyoc> i'm going to include that
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19:45:18 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27471 trunk/src/lang/czech.txt (2015-12-15 19:45:10 +0100 )
19:45:19 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
19:45:20 <DorpsGek> czech - 1 changes by djst
19:51:46 <V453000> planetmaker: I think it would make sense to remove RAWR from translated projects, the only string there is the grf name :D
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20:09:35 <arroyoc> planetmaker, just updated the patch
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21:08:29 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: pikka was last seen in #openttd 5 weeks, 2 days, 0 hours, 51 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <Pikka> well
21:08:38 <andythenorth> that time just gets longer and longer :P
21:08:41 <andythenorth> every time I ask
21:09:39 <frosch123> that's only your perspective
21:10:09 <frosch123> it's less long today that it was tomorrows, and way less long than it was in a month
21:10:33 <frosch123> you only need to turn your head
21:13:14 <andythenorth> my head is fixed
21:13:35 <andythenorth> w.r.t the arrow of time :P
21:14:47 <frosch123> maybe sit on a unicorn then, and tell them to turn
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21:43:46 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r27472 trunk/config.lib (2015-12-15 21:43:39 +0100 )
21:43:47 <DorpsGek> -Change [FS#6401] (r20219): On Haiku use the appropriate system variable to obtain the include dir (aarroyoc)
21:50:25 <planetmaker> thank you, arroyoc :)
21:55:02 <andythenorth> 3 RV sets at once in forums :P
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22:07:32 <andythenorth> anyone tried new FIRS Arctic?
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22:51:54 <Eddi|zuHause> i've not even tried any of the old FIRS economies...
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