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07:07:11 <V453000> peter1138: I do not think it is possible to draw 8bpp recolour mask for 32bpp sprites properly, I have tried various approaches and all failed super horribly
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07:19:36 <Supercheese> I tried once and wasn't able to produce good-looking results either, but that was a while ago
07:20:43 <V453000> I even set up an infrastructure to be able to tweak things to all various results, but no matter what I did, it always makes the result drastically more ugly
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07:27:16 <V453000> ask Pikka what he thinks about CC masks :P
07:33:03 <Supercheese> actually I lied, the one attempt did end relatively decently
07:33:11 <Supercheese> it just took forever
07:33:44 <Supercheese> of course, my "decent" may not be the same as another's
07:34:14 <V453000> I would like to see it tbh :)
07:34:23 <Supercheese> Hmm GIMP is being slow
07:35:10 <Supercheese> I just used a single color for the entire mask
07:35:17 <Pikka> cc masks are fabulous
07:35:23 <V453000> I tried that too, its just bad
07:35:24 <Supercheese> the variations in brightness were handled by the base sprite
07:35:32 <V453000> equal bad to zbase, there it uses only 1 colour as well
07:36:12 <Supercheese> seems like I chose the third-darkest CC for whatever reason
07:36:16 <Pikka> I suppose I'll have to use them for my base set at least...
07:36:17 <Supercheese> dunno why, was a while ago
07:36:43 <V453000> I am still hoping frosch could try to change the algorithm :)
07:37:58 <Supercheese> could always just make separate sprites for each CC
07:38:07 <Supercheese> would be painfully many though
07:38:17 <V453000> not for base set, and x16 is just holy shit many
07:38:29 <V453000> also, base set bridges, ...
07:38:41 <Supercheese> oh bridge recolors, no idea there
07:38:55 <V453000> it works same as vehicles
07:39:30 <peter1138> Of course it's possible. People manage it perfectly well with 8bpp.
07:40:06 <V453000> 8bpp is majorly different.
07:40:35 <V453000> yes, through simple logic "it can look goods there, it must look good here", it sounds very simple. yes.
07:40:36 <peter1138> Not when it comes to CC.
07:40:41 <V453000> :D
07:40:47 <V453000> well CC is the whole problem
07:41:09 <peter1138> It's totally possible. It is a complete cunt when you are 3D rendering everything else, but it's still possible.
07:41:22 <V453000> ok
07:41:26 <V453000> show me pleaSE
07:41:32 <V453000> cause me has no clue anymore
07:46:30 <peter1138> Don't be silly, I'm a programmer, not an artist.
07:48:27 <V453000> then at least explain to me how it should be conceptually possible :P
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09:41:00 <andythenorth> o/
09:41:04 <andythenorth> Pikka huzzah!
09:41:08 <V453000> yo
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13:06:43 <supermop> yo
13:16:07 <V453000> oy
13:23:23 <argoneus> ay
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16:07:21 <V453000> 2,5 million polygons for 1 openttd vehicle does not sounds like polygon-efficient solution XD
16:07:35 <Xaroth|Work> not at all
16:08:44 <V453000> ready for x64 zoom
16:09:10 <V453000> The Community will request it sooner or later anyway
16:09:20 <planetmaker> :D
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19:35:26 <andythenorth> o/
19:35:29 <andythenorth> is cat
19:35:34 <planetmaker> \o
19:36:33 <frosch123> hoi
19:37:03 <TrueBrain> o/
19:37:05 <TrueBrain> is human
19:37:12 <frosch123> liar
19:37:29 <TrueBrain> proof me different
19:37:56 <frosch123> you administrate openttd.org
19:39:28 <TrueBrain> point proven
19:39:30 <TrueBrain> dammit
19:42:00 <frosch123> someone knows the "homeworld" game?
19:42:15 <frosch123> truebrain permanently integrated itself into the openttd server :)
19:43:15 <TrueBrain> *beep*
19:43:35 <planetmaker> it triggers a faint memory, frosch123. It's a MOO - style game, yes?
19:43:58 <frosch123> not really
19:44:17 <frosch123> it's more like a combination of wing command and command&conquer
19:44:29 <frosch123> *wing commander
19:44:57 <planetmaker> well, ok, but I think it's the one I think of :D
19:45:29 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27284 trunk/src/lang/latin.txt (2015-05-12 19:45:19 +0200 )
19:45:30 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
19:45:31 <DorpsGek> latin - 1 changes by Supercheese
19:45:37 <frosch123> anyway, the main starship is controlled by a scienties who built herself into it
19:45:47 <frosch123> *scientist
19:46:18 <TrueBrain> you think that you think
19:46:19 <TrueBrain> awesome :D
19:46:23 <TrueBrain> that means you are!
19:46:25 <frosch123> the starship is a kybernetic life form
19:46:30 <TrueBrain> or at least .. that is what you think
19:46:58 <frosch123> TrueBrain: many people only think that they think
19:47:09 <TrueBrain> I know that I think
19:47:13 <TrueBrain> just ... that is not helping me
19:53:35 <andythenorth> it might be an illusion
19:53:43 <andythenorth> maybe Descartes was wrong
19:55:33 <peter1138> Blah, stupid monitor :(
19:55:49 <frosch123> get a dispaly
19:55:52 <frosch123> *display
20:01:14 <peter1138> Do what
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21:04:10 * andythenorth ponders
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21:05:22 * Rubidium too... a weekend to Oxford or Cambridge (or somewhere else)?
21:08:06 <__ln__> why not La Spezia, Italy
21:09:39 <Rubidium> because I can sell it to my boss to get the ticket to the UK on Friday to instead of Sunday (it's cheaper), but going via Italy is somewhat harder ;)
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21:13:41 <andythenorth> Rubidium: what do you like to do on a trip?
21:14:47 <Rubidium> stroll through the town, visit some local culture stuff, and if possible learn something weird
21:15:26 <andythenorth> those probably work
21:15:52 <andythenorth> I have not really been to Cambridge except for a wedding, people tell me it’s nice though
21:16:06 <andythenorth> Oxford same
21:18:10 <andythenorth> Bristol has a big ship and cider
21:18:12 <andythenorth> and a bridge
21:18:17 <andythenorth> http://visitbristol.co.uk
21:18:57 <andythenorth> and more festivals than any other city in UK
21:19:03 * andythenorth slightly biased
21:19:15 <Rubidium> you live (near) there?
21:19:18 <andythenorth> in it
21:19:20 <andythenorth> dead centre
21:19:30 <andythenorth> Edinburgh also people tell me is good, have never been
21:20:12 <planetmaker> I do know of Edinburgh to be a nice place to be... do not know the others
21:20:41 <planetmaker> Bristol might be a good spot if you can secure a nice place to crash there :P
21:21:14 <Rubidium> oh... big green week. I hope they don't use green pain everywhere
21:21:28 <andythenorth> Microprose were based in Bristol when TTD was made :P
21:21:51 <andythenorth> Bath also is popular for tourists
21:22:15 <Rubidium> http://visitbristol.co.uk/whats-on/fathers-day-steam-up-p1879193 <- something for you and the kids?
21:22:35 <andythenorth> someone I work with drives that train
21:23:45 <andythenorth> the big boat is good, huge engine in it
21:29:14 <Rubidium> Bristol looks nice as well... choices...
21:31:41 * andythenorth should get comission
21:31:57 <Taede> edinburgh is nice, glasgow has a transport museum
21:32:06 <Taede> stirling is good too
21:32:10 <planetmaker> hm... where about do you live, Taede ? :)
21:32:26 <Taede> Falkirk, between the 3
21:32:30 <andythenorth> has a wheel
21:32:32 * planetmaker makes list of notes with places-to-visit :)
21:32:49 <Taede> yup, rotating boat lift
21:33:07 <Taede> also, the kelpies now
21:34:06 <andythenorth> Glasgow also has Loch Lomond and such
21:36:09 <Taede> no loch lomond is quite further up
21:36:27 <Taede> it has the clyde though
21:37:10 <andythenorth> hmm
21:37:20 <andythenorth> it is about 15 years since I went there
21:37:36 <andythenorth> my memory has Loch Lomond about 20 minutes from Glasgow on a bus :P
21:37:39 <andythenorth> might be false
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21:37:57 <Taede> probably not far wrong, dependss on where in glasgow you start
21:38:12 <andythenorth> bus station :D
21:38:25 <andythenorth> pretty city, when the sun is out
21:39:21 <Taede> i'll need to nip down to london sometime this year
21:39:30 <Taede> only place i can get a new passport
21:40:40 <Taede> dutch consulates (of which there is one in Edinburgh) have stopped operating a couter, so i cannot get it there anymore
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21:48:03 <Rubidium> Taede: can't you just become Scottish?
21:50:13 <Taede> i could, but i'd lose my dutchness
21:50:30 <Taede> but if i get married, i woulr retain dutch whilst also becoming scottish
21:51:08 <Taede> we were supposed to marry twice, but both times we had to cancel due to reasons beyond our control
21:52:26 <planetmaker> outch. Bad omen, eh? :(
21:52:42 <Rubidium> that sucks, so "driemaal is scheepsrecht?"
21:53:02 <TrueBrain> 3rd time is the charm
21:53:05 <Taede> thats what we're going for
21:53:08 <TrueBrain> to give you an accurate translation ;)
21:53:47 <planetmaker> Alle guten Dinge sind drei
21:54:05 <TrueBrain> sorry, I dont speak French
21:54:14 <planetmaker> :P
21:54:30 <Rubidium> planetmaker: except 3*3 is so negative in German
21:55:06 <planetmaker> ?
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21:55:19 <Rubidium> nine <-> nein
21:55:45 <planetmaker> don't jump the language border mid-sentence ;)
21:59:07 <Rubidium> talking about 3... when is Germany's supposed-to-be third largest airport going to open its terminals?
21:59:50 <planetmaker> in 2 years or so?
22:00:34 <planetmaker> I only believe it being open in 2017 when it is actually open, though
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22:08:13 <peter1138> Stupid Humble Bundles. I have far too many games I never play :S
22:08:32 <andythenorth> including OpenTTD?
22:08:33 <andythenorth> :P
22:08:49 <^Spike^> peter1138 problem sounds familiar.... :)
22:08:53 <planetmaker> welcome to the club
22:09:04 <^Spike^> *mumbles something about 200 items in steam library*
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22:10:31 <Wolf01> o/
22:10:43 <andythenorth> enough internets for today
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22:11:57 <Wolf01> damn
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