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14:47:13 <planetmaker> don't give him ideas!
14:47:38 <V453000> consider it done Belugas
14:51:00 <frosch123> does yeti support the new unicode skin tone modifier?
14:53:10 <argoneus> stop spreading racist propaganda frosch123
14:53:45 <Belugas> it supposed to be an albinos creature. therefor, he was having a piss while in a storm and teinted its furr lol
14:54:27 <frosch123> Belugas: having snowman nightmares again?
14:54:45 <Belugas> dont say the S word!!!!
14:54:59 <Belugas> it's even worse on my nerves then the R word :D
14:57:17 <V453000> actually, yetis on plantations will be black :P
15:06:53 <planetmaker> "Wir begruben Ihr Verstandnis und sind fur die Mithilfe dankbar." <-- at least a true sentence in that phishing mail :D. "We burried your understanding and grateful for your cooperation" ;)
15:09:12 <frosch123> michi_cc: what do i need to do to stop people linking to the "newgrf tile refresh offsets"?`
15:09:34 <frosch123> it's completely bollocks, broken by design, never worked in ttdp, and will never be implemented in ottd
15:10:12 <frosch123> but it always derails the discussion into confusion
15:10:27 <planetmaker> remove it from wiki ;)
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15:14:40 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: that's what happens when people don't know what an "ü" and "ß" is
15:15:55 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: and i tried so hard to hold myself back from posting that link
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15:22:13 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, I know. Still I find it mighty funny :)
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15:23:00 <argoneus> ad deleting: I read somewhere a quite interesting quote
15:23:19 <argoneus> a piece of software isn't perfect when there's nothing left to add, it's when there's nothing that should be removed
15:23:46 <argoneus> andythenorth: most quotes are older than me
15:23:51 <argoneus> doesn't mean I know them all
15:24:23 <frosch123> there is another quote: i you search long enough you will discover everything as a quote
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15:24:34 <argoneus> oh I used to do that as a kid
15:24:40 <argoneus> I said random sentences with words that make no sense
15:24:46 <argoneus> and was like "nice, now I did something no one has ever done before"
15:25:14 <argoneus> I felt like some sort of pioneer
15:25:39 <frosch123> argoneus: except, you couldn't verify that that was actually the case
15:25:53 <frosch123> if you type random glibberish into google, you will actually sometimes find matches
15:26:13 <frosch123> of course less likely for longer glibberish
15:26:35 <argoneus> frosch123: I couldn't verify, but the probability was quite small
15:26:37 <frosch123> but you find something for about every combination of 4 latin letters
15:26:52 <argoneus> just like there are collisions in SHA512
15:27:01 <argoneus> which is deemed "unique enough
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15:27:23 <frosch123> the more glibberish you type, the more likely you will find a page analysing google results about glibberish though
15:27:26 <argoneus> sometimes, a number is low or high enough that it's pretty much the number
15:27:32 <argoneus> just like 9.999.. is actually 10 :)
15:28:31 <argoneus> frosch123: have you actually ever done gibberish analysis>?
15:30:22 <frosch123> no, i avoided lectures about number theory
15:31:25 <frosch123> but my brother has a phd in the area of algrebraic number theory, so i cannot escape it completely
15:31:51 <argoneus> does that mean he gives you the fun fact of the day every morning?
15:32:18 <frosch123> nah, he lives in australia, so time zones save me :p
15:34:07 <Eddi|zuHause> my professor once said: "number theory is the only science which can genuinely assert that it is not useful for anyone"
15:34:52 <Eddi|zuHause> i think nowadays it's called "recreational mathematics"
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17:46:09 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27056 /trunk/src/lang (czech.txt portuguese.txt) (2014-11-05 17:46:01 UTC)
17:46:10 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:46:11 <DorpsGek> czech - 2 changes by Eskymak
17:46:12 <DorpsGek> portuguese - 4 changes by vesgo
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19:45:15 <NGC3982> Do we have some norweigan or danish people around here?
19:45:40 <NGC3982> I'm doing this presentation at work, and i'm going to talk to a bunch of them.
19:46:07 <NGC3982> Do danish or norweigan people understand the concept behind "peka med hela handen" (Point with the entire hand)?
20:09:56 <Eddi|zuHause> is that something like "Mit Kanonen auf Spatzen schießen"?
20:10:11 <Eddi|zuHause> [use a tool totally oversized for a task]
20:10:44 <NGC3982> "Point with the entire hand" indicates a person that is very firm in giving orders
20:10:52 <andythenorth> at least for 2014
20:10:56 <andythenorth> did that ever happen before?
20:11:03 <NGC3982> Or in how the person deals with 'stuff' that needs attention.
20:11:15 <NGC3982> andythenorth: What do you mean "done"?
20:11:24 <andythenorth> I just played a 40 year game
20:11:36 <andythenorth> there wasn’t a single irritating thing or neat feature idea
20:11:43 <andythenorth> that rarely happens, if ever
20:11:58 <NGC3982> Hehe. Well, you guys have been good.
20:12:12 <Eddi|zuHause> that is only because you filter out so many BAD FEATURES before they exit your mouth (or fingers)
20:12:33 <andythenorth> I wasn’t aware of that
20:12:36 <andythenorth> more the opposite
20:12:43 <andythenorth> mostly after I think
20:13:00 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, i think it's a perception bias
20:13:12 <NGC3982> A good way for me to find out how fantasticly well featured OpenTTD is was to play Transport Tycoon 3 for a while.
20:13:43 <NGC3982> A good way for me to find out how fantasticly well featured OpenTTD is was to play Roller Coaster Tycoon 3 for a while.
20:13:45 <Alberth> the internet is not deleteable :p
20:13:47 <Eddi|zuHause> you mean railroad tycoon 3? or transport tycoon for mobile?
20:14:03 <Eddi|zuHause> oh roaller coaster tycoon 3
20:14:13 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: and the perception bias is caused by / results in?
20:14:40 <Wolf01> I want to play RC3 with the oculus
20:14:56 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: you forget all the time you bicker about there not being enough goals?
20:15:02 <NGC3982> I tried Alien Isolation with the Oculus
20:15:10 <andythenorth> that’s not an OpenTTD issue in my mind
20:15:18 <andythenorth> that’s a “we need more people writing GS”
20:15:25 <Eddi|zuHause> it's just an extension of the community
20:15:30 <NGC3982> That made me realize that i love technology, and that i actually have a heart that can stop.
20:15:31 <andythenorth> yeah, no argument
20:15:43 <andythenorth> I’m just distinguishing core game vs. addons
20:15:52 <andythenorth> you’ve set up my other point neatly :P
20:15:58 <andythenorth> it would be worth making more GS
20:15:58 <Eddi|zuHause> that's a bad way to view it, i think
20:16:31 <Eddi|zuHause> the community is an ecosystem, you can't just pick out parts of it
20:16:42 <NGC3982> So, if feature circus is over, can we get to the multi-thread, rotatable map and capture-the-flag multiplayer mode?
20:17:01 <frosch123> Wolf01: you also need a rotating chair
20:17:17 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: agreed. FWIW though I think you can say some things need committed to trunk, and some don't
20:17:51 <Eddi|zuHause> i probably won't make a GS.
20:17:53 <andythenorth> even if they’re bad, they’ll prompt innovation
20:18:01 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: make a GS generator
20:18:03 <andythenorth> you know you could
20:18:08 <andythenorth> it’s only a matter of inclination
20:18:09 <Eddi|zuHause> even if i started one, it'd never get finished
20:18:22 <andythenorth> a generative one doesn’t particularly need to
20:18:37 <andythenorth> let other people feed it arbitrary goals from csv or json or something
20:19:29 <andythenorth> also finished is over-rated
20:20:13 <andythenorth> CETS advanced state or art w.r.t partial compiles, code generation etc
20:20:23 <andythenorth> which turns up in other sets
20:22:57 <Eddi|zuHause> i've heard it a few times
20:23:06 <Eddi|zuHause> or more than a few
20:26:06 <frosch123> it's a legit loanterm in german, no translation used
20:26:47 <frosch123> though there is "stand der technik"
20:27:20 <frosch123> hmm, so ignore the "no translation used" :)
20:27:35 <frosch123> you can use the german term, or use a fancy foreign term :p
20:28:54 <Eddi|zuHause> that's rather common in german nowadays
20:29:12 <Eddi|zuHause> sometimes they even make up their own english-sounding words :p
20:29:15 <frosch123> it's common in all languages
20:29:31 <Eddi|zuHause> they pretty actively fight it in french
20:29:35 <frosch123> don't count how many "uber" words there are in english
20:30:09 <frosch123> maybe us only though :p
20:35:08 <andythenorth> endless things you never thought you’d see
20:35:09 <Eddi|zuHause> (i somehow must think of this every time someone mentions "uber")
20:35:54 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm never sure if this guy is just funny or actually crazy
20:36:34 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: do you know about V ?
20:37:03 <Eddi|zuHause> what do i know about V?
20:37:40 <Eddi|zuHause> you mean build coopy-style junctions kind of crazy?
20:42:14 <Eddi|zuHause> i've come across that, yes.
20:52:23 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: but i don't think one person can suck up all the crazy in the world so there's nothing left for other people to be crazy :p
20:53:20 <frosch123> you mean something like a world conquest in civ, but wrt. crazyness?
20:53:48 <Eddi|zuHause> no, more like cultural victory :p
20:54:48 <Eddi|zuHause> btw is that just me or did cultural victory get really really hard in the last civ expansion?
21:48:21 <andythenorth> if I start poking at GS I’ll never get these bloody Squids done
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22:11:11 <peter1138> What does OpenGFX+ landscape add?>
22:11:36 <peter1138> Obviously it gives me the ugly tiles that I don't want, but what else?
22:12:39 <frosch123> check the options, it mostly adds options :p
22:13:01 <peter1138> It was on a server, so I didn't think about options.
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