IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2014-06-19
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00:10:00 <Diablo-D3> all I had to do was add it to newgrf-static right?
00:10:22 <Eddi|zuHause> although the format may have changed
00:10:42 <Eddi|zuHause> and it won't work in the title screen
00:11:10 <Eddi|zuHause> the title screen is initialized before newgrfs can be accessed
00:11:30 <Eddi|zuHause> thus they can't be active in the title screen
00:12:14 <Diablo-D3> it doesnt make the font bigger?
00:12:42 <Eddi|zuHause> fonts are separate
00:13:06 <Diablo-D3> how do I do that one?
00:14:15 <Eddi|zuHause> by reading the wiki
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06:43:44 <V453000> attempting to create Building Material Factory today :)
07:06:31 <Supercheese> Are we there yeti?
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07:45:08 <NGC982> < NGC982> Hey, i need some inspiration for a new ttd server
07:45:16 <NGC982> And; < toobored`> NGC982: a large european map with mediterean and the north coast of africa (egypt,libya etc!
07:45:29 <NGC982> Do we know of any African train set?
07:48:56 <V453000> nuts has giant african slugs
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08:14:03 <peter1139> I went to africa, there were no trains or tracks...
08:17:29 <V453000> I dont think using a map of a part of the world cannot be called "inspiration" anyway
08:17:39 <V453000> are people supposed to enjoy playing one map all the time? :D
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08:20:09 <peter1139> Yes, if they're in to very long games :D
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12:48:47 <NGC982> I wish i could slow time on my servers.
12:48:53 <NGC982> Not freeze it, but slow it down.
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13:00:16 <planetmaker> stop it when no-one plays?
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13:12:27 <V453000> use train sets which have longer play time? (:
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17:37:55 <planetmaker> is there an elegant way to get a directory listing which excludes symbolic links?
17:42:16 <frosch123> "find" can do about everything
17:43:54 <frosch123> "find . -maxdepth 1 -type f"
17:45:32 <frosch123> mind that it is an ancient tool, that does not follow posix argument rules
17:45:37 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26655 trunk/src/lang/lithuanian.txt (2014-06-19 17:45:29 UTC)
17:45:38 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:39 <DorpsGek> estonian - 1 changes by
17:45:40 <DorpsGek> lithuanian - 19 changes by Stabilitronas
17:53:03 <planetmaker> right... funky :)
17:53:05 <planetmaker> find . -maxdepth 1 -type d -neweram . | tail -n1
17:54:16 <frosch123> he, pm has a new toy :)
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19:04:17 <V453000> building material factory
19:05:10 <frosch123> no yetis biting on the stones?
19:05:30 <Alberth> haha, tree sawn in 2 halves :)
19:06:12 <frosch123> hmm, are your industries occasionally murdering yetis?
19:06:27 <frosch123> like every now and then a yeti falling into the production? :p
19:06:42 <frosch123> or is that too cruel?
19:07:01 <frosch123> i do not know yet, whether yetis are supposed to be cute
19:39:54 <Eddi|zuHause> "yeti" actually means "over there"
19:40:29 <NGC982> It does? In what language?
19:47:18 <Eddi|zuHause> whatever language the sherpas speak
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19:50:05 <NGC982> And it's the de facto lingua franca of Nepal.
19:50:17 <NGC982> That line makes linguists come in their pants.
19:53:01 <Eddi|zuHause> aren't "lingua franca" always "de facto"?
19:53:28 <Eddi|zuHause> nobody ever passed a law "everybody's second language shall be english"
19:54:23 <Eddi|zuHause> or greek, or german, or french, or whenever you lived
19:54:57 <frosch123> is there a law about your first language?
19:55:23 <Eddi|zuHause> there are laws about "official" languages
19:55:28 <Eddi|zuHause> in most countries
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19:55:37 <frosch123> some countries have multiple official languages
19:55:58 <Eddi|zuHause> and none of them is english
19:56:26 <frosch123> nah, then you have to go to southeast asia and a century back
19:56:57 <NGC982> Might it have to do with the fact that China does not acknowledge them and their language as official?
19:57:06 <Eddi|zuHause> then you get into areas where english isn't actually the lingua franca
19:57:10 <NGC982> Or is that just the opposite.
19:57:53 <Rubidium> what's the lingua franca of Hong Kong?
19:58:51 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: the question is phrased the wrong way
20:00:04 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: "lingua franca" is something that is used between people of different origins (countries, cultures, native languages)
20:01:05 <NGC982> How is the questions phrased in the wrong way, then?
20:02:29 <Eddi|zuHause> NGC982: what's the lingua franca of 19th century new york?
20:03:15 <NGC982> Is this a trick question? I want to say english. :)
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20:04:32 <Eddi|zuHause> NGC982: are you sure?
20:05:05 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: ... but ... English and Chinese are the official language, though the Cantonese variant of Chinese is the de facto standard in Hong Kong whereas Mandarin is the standard in the mainland China
20:05:19 <NGC982> Eddi|zuHause: I'm not trying to disprove you. I just don't understand what you mean.
20:05:20 <Eddi|zuHause> there may have been up to 500 different languages spoken in this area. how can you be certain that if you picked two random people, the most likely choice would be english?
20:05:59 <NGC982> You wouldn't. Therefor, you can assume that the official language is the first one of the two will try, if possible.
20:06:28 <Eddi|zuHause> there was almost certainly no "official" language in 19th century new york
20:07:01 <Eddi|zuHause> only a handful of american states even have one today
20:08:11 <NGC982> But, as far as i know, doesn't Nepals have an official language by it's Chinese sovereignty.
20:08:26 <Eddi|zuHause> which may get interesting if spanish becomes a majority language in some states
20:08:54 <Eddi|zuHause> nepal isn't in china
20:09:16 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe you're thinking of tibet?
20:11:24 <Supercheese> I know the California state constitution has English as the official language
20:12:34 <NGC982> Eddi|zuHause: Yes, i am. Sorry.
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23:41:04 <Aki-Thinkpad> checking out the source, have qtcreator open; what is the project file I need to open?
23:41:12 <Aki-Thinkpad> I don't see any cmakelist
23:41:34 <Eddi|zuHause> there is no such project
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23:41:46 <Eddi|zuHause> and cmake is not used
23:42:46 <Eddi|zuHause> we only have project files for visual studio
23:43:16 <Eddi|zuHause> however, you can try to build one from "source.lst"
23:46:13 <Aki-Thinkpad> Eddi|zuHause, thanks
23:46:34 <Eddi|zuHause> actually it's source.list
23:48:40 <Aki-Thinkpad> Eddi|zuHause, not much experience with these files
23:48:54 <Aki-Thinkpad> I can't get it to well... do the magic
23:49:06 <Aki-Thinkpad> should I just make it manually?
23:49:14 <Eddi|zuHause> i can't really help you there
23:49:20 <Eddi|zuHause> never worked with qtcreator
23:49:45 <Aki-Thinkpad> you open source windows devs... I'll never understand you ;)
23:57:05 <glx> no the main work is done on linux
23:57:17 <glx> with classic makefile stuff
23:59:22 <Aki-Thinkpad> glx, what ide are you using?
23:59:34 <Aki-Thinkpad> or are the linux devs usually using?
23:59:51 * Aki-Thinkpad thought visual studio was not available on linux
23:59:56 <Aki-Thinkpad> shows what I know
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