IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2014-02-04
            
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00:07:53 <ccfreak2k> What's the one game that's like openttd but isn't openttd?
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00:42:45 <ccfreak2k> Simutrains I think.
00:43:01 <ccfreak2k> Simutrans, that's it.
01:11:12 <Japa_> I thought it was railroad tycoon
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07:29:28 <Elyon> gooooood morning
07:29:44 <planetmaker> moin :)
07:29:50 <__ln__> 'qapla
07:34:07 <Elyon> do procedures count as the same action2 chain regarding registers? That is, can I set registers in the caller that work in the procedure, and vice versa?
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07:50:39 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, i think
07:51:07 <Elyon> that would make sense. Thanks :) Will toy around some more
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08:51:41 <JdGordon|> can openttd be made to autmatically load a save game, take a screenshot and then quit?
08:52:55 <V453000> script script
08:59:20 <planetmaker> not that easily, JdGordon|
08:59:32 <planetmaker> loading a specific savegame is no problem, you got command line options for that
08:59:52 <planetmaker> issuing the 'take screenshot' command in a scripted way is the more problematic one :)
09:00:22 <JdGordon|> I'm open to a hacky code way :)
09:00:34 <V453000> HAX
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09:02:41 <planetmaker> I've a hacky script which creates the titlegame competition screenshots for me. It can be modified to not use the titlegame but start playing mode
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09:03:07 <planetmaker> but I don't have the up to date patch here or anywhere online but on my home pc only
09:04:01 <planetmaker> the ones online from two years ago don't apply anymore to trunk as the code basis changed
09:04:44 <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/titlegame/titlescreen.diff
09:05:10 <planetmaker> that would work on OSX or linux (SDL) but not on windows
09:05:38 <planetmaker> and as said, outdated by two years. But could give you an idea.
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09:07:08 <planetmaker> (and an openttd compiled with that patch simply won't run longer than required for that screenshot. It will then just exit normally)
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09:08:01 <planetmaker> which OS do you look for, JdGordon| ?
09:08:21 <JdGordon|> linux
09:08:40 <JdGordon|> I'm looking into using x11 keypresses from a script to do it :)
09:08:59 <JdGordon|> having trouble getting the X11 window though
09:11:24 <planetmaker> my solution just loads the game and calls the screenshot function automatically after a few ticks and then exits
09:11:35 <planetmaker> probably easier, if it's just about getting screenshots from a few games
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09:16:33 <JdGordon|> probably :) not having to rebuild would be nice though
09:16:45 <JdGordon|> where do screenshots normally get saved to?
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09:19:32 <JdGordon|> ctrl+g doesnt work?
09:20:26 <JdGordon|> woo! this will actually work :)
09:20:43 <JdGordon|> planetmaker: I might be able to make your life easier with this script :p
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09:23:01 <JdGordon|> $ xdotool windowactivate `xdotool search --class "openttd"` && xdotool key ctrl+s && sleep 10 && xdotool key ctrl+q && xdotool key Return
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09:24:50 <JdGordon|> can the savegame/scrreenshot filename format be changed to something sortable instead of having readblae dates?
09:25:04 <JdGordon|> i.e company-YYYYMMDD.*
09:26:32 * JdGordon| found the setting :)
09:31:15 <JdGordon|> oh bugger... I didnt realise it cylces the autosaves... I was hopinbg to screenshot 150+ game years of progress :(
09:32:20 * JdGordon| *only* has 61 .sav's and unevenly spaced :(
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09:53:34 <JdGordon|> is there anything obviously wrong with http://pastebin.com/5QwEg4cV ? when I run it I get the --help output instead of openttd loading the save
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10:20:48 <planetmaker> JdGordon|, I to believe that the backslashes are wrong
10:20:58 <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/titlegame/do-it.sh works like a charm
10:21:35 <JdGordon|> yeah, now i have a problem
10:21:41 <JdGordon|> I cant open the giant pngs :)
10:23:12 <planetmaker> giant? you make giant screenshots of the maps?
10:23:41 <JdGordon|> I wanted to make a timelapse of my current game
10:24:03 <JdGordon|> i think i have to timelapse specific sections :/
10:24:06 <planetmaker> timelapse of giant screenshots might overload nearly every PC :)
10:24:23 <Xaroth|Work> depends on the map tbh :p
10:24:28 <planetmaker> :)
10:24:34 <Xaroth|Work> a 128x128 map isn't as bad as a 2048x2048 map :P
10:24:36 <planetmaker> but even with 256^2 that's big images
10:25:12 <planetmaker> @calc 256*64*32*8
10:25:12 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 4194304
10:25:17 <planetmaker> @calc 256*64*32*8 / 1024/1024
10:25:17 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 4
10:25:32 <planetmaker> Just 4 Megabytes each for 256^2. That might work meanwhile :)
10:26:13 <JdGordon|> 2k*2k
10:28:38 <planetmaker> Factor of 64 :P
10:29:14 <JdGordon|> can i set the screen resolution from the commandline?
10:29:24 <planetmaker> yes
10:29:30 <planetmaker> the window size
10:31:21 <Xaroth|Work> 256MiB per screenshot
10:31:23 <Xaroth|Work> that's not too bad tbh
10:31:51 <JdGordon|> time to giveup on this idea :/
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10:39:50 <JdGordon|> is there a way to jump to a specific coordinate from a hotkey or the console?
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10:56:53 <Eddi|zuHause> <JdGordon|> i.e company-YYYYMMDD.* <-- there is a setting to use ISO dates in savegames
10:57:39 <Eddi|zuHause> JdGordon|> ctrl+g doesnt work? <-- global screenshot pops up a confirmation dialogue
10:57:56 <JdGordon|> thanks, got it all working
10:58:14 <JdGordon|> fighting with the scrollto command now
10:58:34 <Eddi|zuHause> also, you might get things to work with the "scripts/on_xxx.scr" files
10:58:56 <Eddi|zuHause> or the admin port
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11:54:03 <JdGordon|> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ops3o6jgvbffcaz/animation.gif :)
11:55:19 <LordAro> JdGordon|: does.. it have more than one frame? :3
11:55:32 <LordAro> also, gfycat.com that, makes life much easier
11:55:32 <JdGordon|> click download :p
11:55:43 <JdGordon|> 14MB...
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11:57:08 <LordAro> JdGordon|: :D
11:57:32 <theholyduck> JdGordon|, i think you would be better off encoding to h264 and uploading the animation to a site like mediacru.sh.
11:57:42 <theholyduck> especially on openttd content
11:57:50 <theholyduck> it compressed ludicrously well with h264
11:58:00 <JdGordon|> I'll try tomorow maybe
11:58:13 <JdGordon|> pity I couldnt do this with the giant screenshot!
11:58:38 <theholyduck> not to mention, it can even convert gifs to h264/vp8 for the same effect
12:00:36 <JdGordon|> almost finished saving on gfycat
12:00:43 <theholyduck> https://mediacru.sh/Qf5Ln0idyjRX JdGordon|
12:00:47 <theholyduck> i prefer mediacrush
12:01:22 <JdGordon|> thanks
12:01:48 <JdGordon|> http://gfycat.com/FakeGiftedHart
12:02:01 <theholyduck> mosly because it has a less obnoxious name, and is entirely open source
12:02:37 <theholyduck> not to mention you can create your own h264 videos for streaming and upload directly, for higher quality without relying on gif conversions
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12:46:29 <Eddi|zuHause> JdGordon|: maybe try the "zoomed-in-screenshot", it hides all the gui elements
12:46:51 <Eddi|zuHause> also, you should make it not loop
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13:17:17 <planetmaker> http://gandalf.zernebok.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=39972 might also be moderately interesting @ JdGordon|
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15:52:49 <Taede> moin
15:53:30 <Xaroth|Work> o/
15:54:38 <Elyon> hiya
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16:48:20 <Terkhen> hello
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17:11:24 <slee> hello, can you not increase the loan? i set max_loan = 1000000(was originally 500000), but it didn't increase my loan in the game, is $1M the highest you can set?
17:12:28 <V453000> might apply only to new game
17:12:32 <V453000> not running one
17:12:43 <slee> i've been using the cheat to give myself $20M to start(investors) then pay it back when i reach $20M, but i'd at least like to pay interest on it
17:12:58 <V453000> ............
17:13:19 <V453000> this game isnt about money.
17:13:28 <slee> right
17:14:59 <slee> well, i tried adv settings at main menu to set loan and in a new game, neither will allow over $1M...just curious if i was missing something to achieve this
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17:20:46 <planetmaker> set a different currency ;)
17:23:27 <slee> how will that increase max loan amount?
17:26:41 <planetmaker> it will appear higher :)
17:26:46 <planetmaker> as will all costs
17:27:00 <planetmaker> or lower. If you select GBP instead of USD
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17:53:41 <V453000> well you could use some currency and basecosts with reduction of all costs
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18:10:39 <slee> thinking back on the preconditioning of the people with gov drone use(amazon delivering packages via drone *rolls eyes*) someone could make a 'drone delivery' grf, houses/buildings in towns can place orders, use drones to deliver...factory > drone HQ > house/buildings ....0_o
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18:11:55 <V453000> someone could yeah
18:11:58 <V453000> could also be you
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18:45:41 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26295 /trunk/src/lang (4 files in 2 dirs) (2014-02-04 18:45:31 UTC)
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18:57:36 <Wolf01> o/
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19:02:39 <Alberth> \o
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19:32:29 * andythenorth tries to remember how to make money in ttd
19:33:08 <Taede> transport ink and paper to the printers
19:33:22 <andythenorth> ha ha
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19:33:29 <andythenorth> that's a missing chain in FIRS
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19:36:14 <Xaroth|Work> high speed, long distances
19:36:16 <Xaroth|Work> can't miss
19:38:42 <Alberth> buying speed could be explained in a very wrong way :p
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19:41:04 <Eddi|zuHause> i remember some games where it was almost impossible to earn money, especially station costs were harsh (this was pre-infrastructure-maintenance, but maybe it was the fault of some daylength patch)
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20:20:53 <andythenorth> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e10tPPjiC6E
20:20:58 <andythenorth> mostly Canadia
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20:48:47 <andythenorth> so bloody quiet
20:49:16 <andythenorth> why are we not moaning about something?
20:50:41 <Pinkbeast> What do you want - cargod*st, UKRS2 vs 2CC, timetable separation, cargo payment, making trains use sensible platforms, people don't use RVs... ?
20:54:04 <Alberth> realism
20:54:49 <Alberth> instead code a few industries from mars :p
20:56:24 * andythenorth not coding anything
20:56:28 <andythenorth> tiredish
20:56:31 <andythenorth> not a codey day
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21:28:43 <andythenorth> hmm
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21:33:05 <andythenorth> oh breakdowns
21:33:08 <andythenorth> how rare
21:33:20 <andythenorth> breakdowns are...broken :)
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22:42:28 <Wolf01> nn
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23:13:39 <slee> i watched 1 of the 3 videos on youtube on freerct....doesn't look like it's ready for heavy game play
23:19:17 <Xaroth|Work> does it have to be?
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23:25:29 <Elyon> ohai
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