IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2013-08-28
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07:30:05 <dihedral> Booked ibis budget at the airport, arrived at the hotel and was told due to a powercut they have to but me in the standard ibis hotel.
07:30:33 <dihedral> Paied budget price though :-)
07:31:13 <maddy_> I guess that worked out fine then
07:32:15 <dihedral> "We appologize for the inconveniance" she said :-P
07:34:48 <dihedral> On the road to the 3rd funpark out of 5 for this week :-D
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08:29:54 <Xaroth|Work> dihedral: get outta mah country!
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12:09:05 <Xaroth|Work> dihedral: nothing racial about it
12:09:14 <Xaroth|Work> just, gtfo of my country :P
12:10:04 <dihedral> And i don't even think you are moderately funny
12:10:18 <planetmaker> I'm afraid, the fun eludes me, too
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12:41:13 <planetmaker> hm... is there somewhere a download location for musa?
12:44:23 <planetmaker> bananas upload "script". which allows to easily define dependencies. More versatile than web interface
12:45:20 <planetmaker> hm... *ponder*. Integrate into DevZone? :D
12:45:48 <planetmaker> tag release and upload automatically created build to bananas?
12:45:56 <dihedral> Na move the dev zone to openttd
12:46:11 <planetmaker> nah, TB can't be bothered with the additional work ;-)
12:46:45 <planetmaker> this way as-is not
12:47:12 <planetmaker> also, integration into OpenTTD would probably just use the same interfaces. So no real difference
12:47:36 <dihedral> Difference in the domainname
12:47:59 <planetmaker> yes... But that could simply be done by setting an alias
12:48:18 <planetmaker> but then... that's not that important really
12:49:58 <dihedral> Alias rather, makes a difference about an official platform :-)
12:50:28 <planetmaker> I guess no-one would have an issue with that
12:51:14 <planetmaker> feel free to bother TB with it :D
12:51:59 <dihedral> TB is not a fan of being bugged by me :-P
12:52:14 <planetmaker> is he a fan of being bugged (at all)? :D
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12:53:04 <planetmaker> just have a good reason ;-) then you won't be eaten in the lion's den
12:53:13 <dihedral> I bet he's only a true fan of himself :-P
12:54:47 <dihedral> Anyway... I shall have a look at amsterdam now. Bye :-)
12:56:47 <peter1138> Don't get too stoned.
13:30:51 <Belugas> [08:08] <Xaroth|Work> just, gtfo of my country :P <-- did not said that to me! Only complained we could not meet hahaha!!
13:31:11 <Belugas> would not have missed much, anyway ;)
13:36:10 <Xaroth|Work> Belugas: that's because you only go there once in.. 20 blue moons?
13:37:55 <Belugas> waht can I say ? too many places to see in too little life time!
13:38:10 <Belugas> ho. and you did nto come to the party :P
13:38:45 <Xaroth|Work> I value my job more than I value spending a weekend with a bunch of geeks :P
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13:39:54 <Belugas> ha well... i had an opportunity i could not missed ;) so even if my boss was not pleased, fuck it, i go!
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14:08:01 <Bad_Brett> is it only me, or has the nml compiler actually gotten _slower_?
14:10:30 <Bad_Brett> nah the timer function in matlab :)
14:10:58 <peter1138> Compiler performance is generally judged by its output ;)
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14:12:41 <Bad_Brett> my nml compiler was a year old so i replaced it yesterday, and since then things seems to take even longer
14:18:05 <V453000> idk, with some of the caching it got faster like half a year ago I thinks
14:24:19 <Bad_Brett> yeah, i thought so too
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15:07:22 <mike-rg> hols !!! alguien habla español???? :)
15:09:56 <Xaroth|Work> no, we don't speak spanish
15:10:13 <DorpsGek> Xaroth|Work: topic [<channel>]
15:10:28 <Xaroth|Work> hrnf, i could have sworn there was an easy way to do that :P
15:11:34 <DorpsGek> dihedral: Don't ask to ask, just ask
15:12:23 <DorpsGek> Xaroth|Work: English only
15:13:42 <mike-rg> no problem, just asking, im speak English too !!!!
15:13:48 <Xaroth|Work> now, back to configuring varnish for me
15:15:18 <dihedral> Varnish is awesome - at least that is what i think after seeing performance increace on a magento shop :-P
15:15:37 <Xaroth|Work> yeh, customer wants it
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15:15:46 <Xaroth|Work> but it requires a fair bit of configuring
15:15:55 <Xaroth|Work> to get good performance out of it
15:16:12 <Xaroth|Work> so that means a lot of reading up on configuring for me
15:18:05 <dihedral> Yes, and you ideally want it also using the template commands and probably want the backend to actively delete caches
15:30:15 <mike-rg> sorry, but i also understand "nginx" is a good choice too, both are written in C !
15:37:42 <Xaroth|Work> You are missing the point of varnish ;)
15:39:00 <Xaroth|Work> while nginx can cache, it's far better in being a HTTPD than being a page cache
15:39:03 <Xaroth|Work> varnish, is the opposite
15:39:12 <Xaroth|Work> it sucks at being a HTTPD, but it's excellent in being a page cache
15:39:49 <Xaroth|Work> our customer wants varnish to be in front of his nginx processes
15:40:05 <Xaroth|Work> so varnish can do what it does best, while the cluster of nginx processes do what they do best
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16:19:00 <TWerkhoven> I've stuck some event triggers in trackingclient for rcon-end and cmdlogging
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16:30:34 <^Spike^> Xaroth|Work sounds like a logical setup... we implemented it at several customers at work.. 4 backend servers on vmware.. without the 2 varnish servers infront of it... they would die within seconds...
16:30:52 <^Spike^> just cause varnish takes away so much load of those servers
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17:45:16 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25747 trunk/src/lang/serbian.txt (2013-08-28 17:45:09 UTC)
17:45:17 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:18 <DorpsGek> serbian - 27 changes by ivan_mile
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17:53:19 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25748 trunk/src/lang/serbian.txt (2013-08-28 17:53:13 UTC)
17:53:20 <DorpsGek> -Fix: omitted string validations
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18:22:17 <Xaroth|Work> ^Spike^: atm there's 7 of them, and they are doing semi-fine
18:22:41 <^Spike^> varnish servers or backends? :)
18:23:01 <Xaroth|Work> will be replaced by a HA varnish setup
18:23:27 <^Spike^> leaving just as a i break devzone
18:23:30 <^Spike^> i would do the same...
18:23:35 <^Spike^> only i need to fix it :)
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18:46:06 <oskari89> Whoa, someone did update DevZone "look"
18:46:25 <^Spike^> nah we've been too lazy to put the old skin back on yetr
18:46:34 <^Spike^> we're working on getting it running first :)
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18:51:19 <Wolf01> I purchased lego 42009 today, just to let you know :)
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19:05:21 <Bad_Brett> i want that one so badly
19:05:52 <Wolf01> so I can lift the Orthanc tower I've there
19:06:01 <planetmaker> cool thing, Wolf01 :-)
19:08:41 <Bad_Brett> the first set with fully motorized stabilizers...
19:09:08 <Bad_Brett> hopefully my gf will get it for me :-)
19:10:31 <Wolf01> eheh, you must be lucky
19:11:47 <Bad_Brett> i've gotten a lot of flagships from her, like the motorized bulldozer, excavator, crane truck, unimog 400 etc.
19:11:47 <Wolf01> when I was a kid, my grandma purchased various sets for me, now I feel I'm the grandpa of myself
19:14:25 <Bad_Brett> i look at it this way... when i buy lego to myself, i usually have these feelings of guilt
19:14:37 <Bad_Brett> it's like buying to much booze or something like that
19:15:07 <planetmaker> so buy it for your kid. And play with it yourself ;-)
19:15:12 <Bad_Brett> but, when i get it from my gf, it's my darn responsibility to play with it
19:15:26 <Bad_Brett> yeah, but i don't have any kids yet, so that's not an option :D
19:15:58 <Wolf01> instead I need to purchase something to feel better, and more it cost/bigger it is, the best I feel :D
19:16:15 <juzza1> Let the Lego be your little secret
19:16:33 <planetmaker> Bad_Brett, I heard it can be quite fun to get some ;-) (to have some can be... expressed by many emotions ;-) )
19:17:20 <Wolf01> I think it's a problem to keep them hidden... I have half of my room filled with Lego, so it's not a so "little" secret
19:17:51 <planetmaker> hidden in plain sight ;-)
19:18:29 <juzza1> hehe, thats a major problem with lego... and keeping them clean of dust
19:18:32 <Bad_Brett> so, where do you plan to store that crane?
19:18:49 <Wolf01> and I really think the next one will be the 42008, which could be another little problem to sort out as I'm running out of space
19:19:38 <Bad_Brett> 42008 is really nice as well... i like the ones with compressors instead of LA's
19:20:24 <Bad_Brett> though i'd suspect that the 42008 box isn't that big?
19:20:25 <planetmaker> are they actually remote controlled?
19:21:18 <Wolf01> 42008 is 90€, and 42009 is 190€, so I bet the box size could be really different
19:21:39 <Bad_Brett> that's probably my favourite
19:22:15 <Bad_Brett> even though it's lacking compressor :)
19:22:25 <juzza1> that is really a clever model, easily one of the best
19:23:37 <Bad_Brett> just as we like it :-)
19:24:50 <Wolf01> I saw it on a fair with a lot of other remoted controlled excavators and trucks
19:25:58 <Bad_Brett> i hope for your sake that you have bought it
19:27:16 <Xaroth|Work> probably shouldn't post it here, but hawt damn those are some sick ideas :P
19:27:38 <Wolf01> unfortunately not, and now on amazon it costs a lot :(
19:28:04 <frosch123> what are all those roundish bricks doing at that excavator?
19:28:39 <Bad_Brett> oh well... you could probably build with parts from the crane and the bulldozer (if you have that one)
19:29:26 <Qsuicide> im a lego guy myself (probably most are if they play TTD lol).
19:29:28 <Bad_Brett> they are the new plates... i didn't care much for them when they came, but do serve a purpose
19:31:28 <frosch123> i am used to the looks of like 8862
19:32:43 <juzza1> i was, but then i bought 8258
19:34:03 <Bad_Brett> hehe that ones awesome as well
19:35:11 <Bad_Brett> the only thing i didn't like about that one is that only some parts of the crane arm are motorized, so it feels a bit weird to actually play with it
19:36:37 <Bad_Brett> however, this one will always have a special place in my heart:
19:37:33 <Wolf01> in my too, I wanted it so badly :(
19:37:42 <frosch123> i think i know that one
19:37:53 <TWerkhoven> had to leave it back in the nl though
19:38:13 <Qsuicide> anyone see they added 'Twerk' to the oxford dictionary today ;)
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19:39:03 <Bad_Brett> i still have it, it's on my bookshelf :)
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19:40:24 <Bad_Brett> got it from my parents... i was told it was to expensive, but when the realized how much i loved it, they did an exception that year... i was so happy
19:42:22 <Bad_Brett> <__ln__>: what's strange about these pictures? I live in sweden and see those machines every day ;-)
20:33:35 <Xaroth|Work> sometimes I hate openvpn
20:33:38 <Xaroth|Work> connecting to 2 networks
20:33:46 <Xaroth|Work> from sheer dumb luck both networks give me the same IP
20:34:01 <Xaroth|Work> openvpn takes a while longer to connect, then informs me i"m connected
20:34:06 <Xaroth|Work> yet one connection does not work
20:35:30 <^Spike^> ... use same ranges on both sides?
20:35:53 <Xaroth|Work> well the ranges being vpn'ed aren't the same
20:36:01 <Xaroth|Work> but the pools for vpn clients are
20:36:07 <Xaroth|Work> which means you can get the same IP twice
20:36:15 <Xaroth|Work> especially if you're the only sysop connecting at this time of night :P
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20:48:06 <Bad_Brett> interesting... my old nml compiler (from january) is definately faster than the new one
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21:25:53 <Xaroth|Work> Bad_Brett: debug it! :P
21:28:58 <planetmaker> test nml 2068 vs. 2074
21:28:59 <Bad_Brett> oh no, i'm not gonna enter those uncharted waters, at least not tonight :)
21:33:04 <Bad_Brett> for now, i'll use the old version for testing purposes
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