IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2013-08-24
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07:25:43 <Jomann> some interesting game somewhere?
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07:54:52 <LordAro> /o wolf, ln and Alberth :)
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10:23:24 <Arkabzol> funny when "modern office building" emerges in the 80's
10:24:34 <Alberth> you're playing in the wrong century :p
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12:43:24 <LordAro> quick, kill it with fire!
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12:50:46 <Bad_Brett> extra turning angles are here to stay!
12:50:55 <Bad_Brett> but now, it's time for some floorball
12:51:22 <LordAro> oh god, what have you done, eddi? D:
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14:17:11 <DorpsGek> DanMacK: I have not seen andy.
14:17:20 <DorpsGek> DanMacK: andythenorth was last seen in #openttd 5 hours, 31 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <andythenorth> o/
14:20:34 <LordAro> he was online until about 80 mins ago
14:21:02 <DanMacK> meh, I'll catch him at some point, lol
14:27:56 <frosch123> lay out a trail of legos
14:28:22 <frosch123> and snap him at the end
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15:25:42 <NGC3982> I love working with insurances.
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15:32:51 <LordAro> how was ...floorball?
15:33:29 <Bad_Brett> it was great, i'm tired as hell though
15:34:15 <Bad_Brett> floorball is a sport for those of us who wish we were ice-hockey players but can't skate :)
15:35:10 <Bad_Brett> now, it's time to add this baby to the game:
15:35:52 <LordAro> it seems to get longer when vertical ('|')
15:36:28 <Bad_Brett> that's because it is
15:37:09 <Bad_Brett> or, it's shorter when / and \
15:37:20 <LordAro> oh, is that the weird ottd thing?
15:37:54 <Bad_Brett> but you see it more clearly when it's rotating in the same spot
15:38:46 <LordAro> and you designed the 3d model that does that?
15:39:09 <LordAro> *made the 3d model get longer/shorter for those angles?
15:40:05 <Bad_Brett> it compresses to 90%
15:40:45 <LordAro> i wonder if zeph did that...
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16:22:07 <NGC3982> "Its" without the ', indicates possession, right?
16:22:35 <frosch123> yes, "it's" would be "it is"
16:22:46 <frosch123> typical structure in programming
16:22:50 <NGC3982> And: "It's a good day".
16:23:02 <frosch123> if one term would make sense, but is already used by something else, pick the opposite
16:23:26 <frosch123> it's the fundamental theme of e.g. DOS
16:24:03 <frosch123> oh, we used "/" for command line parameters! easy, just use "\" instead
16:24:37 <frosch123> oh we used a printable character in first position to denote a deleted file
16:24:50 <frosch123> let's use a non-printable character to represent that one printable character
16:25:27 <frosch123> oh, no software works with dpmi 1.0, let's stick with 0.9
16:26:24 <NGC3982> That's a fascinating comparison.
16:29:13 <frosch123> oh, fat16 is reaching its limitations on harddisks after 10 years, let's do fat32 to last 4 years
16:33:20 <LordAro> not bitter, are we? :p
16:33:58 <frosch123> i just learned in young years that the average programmer is a douchebag
16:34:41 <frosch123> when i entered university i also got an idea about why that's the case :p
16:35:48 <frosch123> but it prepared me well for work :p
16:36:03 * LordAro rates frosch as an 'above average' programmer :)
16:36:39 <frosch123> easy, i can resolve merge conflicts
16:36:49 <frosch123> *simple merge conflicts
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16:54:46 <Bad_Brett> what should i use in a newgrf? I always used \ for the file paths and have had no problems with it, but / seems to be used more often
16:54:59 <Bad_Brett> *bad brett means nml
16:55:26 <scshunt> Bad_Brett: \ is not a path separator on Unix systems, so / is preferred for cross-platform stuff
16:55:39 <Bad_Brett> ah! that makes sense
16:55:59 <Bad_Brett> should take too long to make these modifications
16:56:07 <frosch123> Bad_Brett: / is the traditional path separator used since 60's
16:56:24 <frosch123> then someone came along and said: dos is for simple machines we do not need directories
16:56:31 <Bad_Brett> *bad brett grew up with MS-DOS
16:56:50 <frosch123> then someone needed a character to indicate comand line parameters, and used / which is a handy key on us keyboards
16:57:11 <frosch123> then someone noticed that directories would be a nice feature for the next dos version
16:57:53 <frosch123> basically all issues with windows are based on early design decisions in dos to make stuff simple
16:58:24 <frosch123> i would think dos is a curse word among ms employees :p
16:58:45 <frosch123> people always want them to stay compatible with that old crap :)
16:58:54 <Bad_Brett> guess i'll use / from now on then :)
17:00:21 <Bad_Brett> so they basically added directories when / was already used for command line parameters?
17:00:40 <Bad_Brett> and since / was already taken, they decided to go with \?
17:00:59 <Bad_Brett> haha that sounds so stupid
17:01:04 <frosch123> just that directories with / existed way before dos
17:01:18 <frosch123> Bad_Brett: it's not the only case. that kind of stuff is all over the place in dos
17:01:30 <frosch123> use something ad hoc which seems handy, later regret it
17:02:10 <Bad_Brett> strangely, that strategy seems to working... just look at adobe :)
17:06:04 <Bad_Brett> you know that Paintshop Pro 7 from 2000 is better at optimizing .psd-file than Photoshop?
17:07:22 <Bad_Brett> When I worked with really large image files, I would sometimes re-save the .psd-files in PSP7 to get the file size down
17:08:42 <Bad_Brett> actually, i edit all my graphics for OpenTTD in PSP7 instead of photoshop or gimp
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17:10:01 <DanMacK> Just the guy I was looking for :P
17:11:42 <LordAro> he doesn't notice unless you say his name :P
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17:45:19 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25742 trunk/src/lang/polish.txt (2013-08-24 17:45:11 UTC)
17:45:20 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:21 <DorpsGek> polish - 17 changes by voythas
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18:00:07 <NGC3982> I must say, the Openttd app for android is quite alright.
18:05:45 <NGC3982> A bit more unefficient, though.
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18:48:07 <Bad_Brett> this is gonna get interesting
18:48:15 <Bad_Brett> when TT for android is released
18:50:06 <Supercheese> especially since you can decompile .apk into source code
18:51:06 <Supercheese> I've hacked my share of .apks by de/recompiling
18:53:50 <frosch123> if that's what you meant with getting interesting :p
18:54:29 <Supercheese> I think he meant Chris Sawyer's TT 2013
18:55:05 <frosch123> yeah, put into context with earlier mentioning of the ottd port
18:57:18 <frosch123> tl;dr: there was a andoid port of ottd; cs filed dcma; maintainer objected, nothing happened, google reinstalled port after timeout
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19:09:57 * Supercheese wonders if anyone will get that reference
19:15:38 <LordAro> frosch123: was it ever shown that it actually was cs? i thought it was just some random person
19:15:51 <LordAro> (was cs or had something to do with him)
19:16:30 <frosch123> LordAro: the quoted dcma request says the lawer is acting representing cs' company
19:19:26 <V453000> LOL I was searching for a bug for like 20 minutes to find out I forgot to save the png image ....
19:21:10 <LordAro> frosch123: ah, i don't think i would've recognised that company name when i read it originally
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