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08:41:20  <roboboy> hello

08:42:07  <roboboy> where can I download the 1.3.2 RC1 installer from? I can't find a link to other mirros than the US mirror

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08:49:21  <roboboy> I just found someone on the forums posted a link

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09:19:54  <Eddi|zuHause> www.openttd.org -> "links" lists all the mirrors

09:24:04  <peter1139> for some reason my browser/url-handler redirects that link to http://http:www.openttd.org ...

09:33:38  <roboboy> whoopsie

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11:03:54  <alluke> how to make train work with metro track set

11:04:25  <alluke> to be able to run only on those tracks

11:07:42  <alluke> nutracks 3rd rail too

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11:16:37  <Eddi|zuHause> in nml? you define a railtype translation table with an entry "metro_track : [MTRO]" (or "[MTRO, ELRL]" if you want the train to work without nutracks), and then in the vehicle you do "powered_railtype: metro_track"

11:16:54  <Eddi|zuHause> modulo misremembering the exact names :)

11:17:28  <Eddi|zuHause> there is a wiki page about which railtype labels are used

11:19:33  <Eddi|zuHause> this is an example of a (very elaborate) railtype table https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/entry/src/railtype_definitions.pnml

11:20:13  <Eddi|zuHause> "        tracktype_default3 : ["3RDR", ELRL]," this is probably the line you want

11:21:58  <Eddi|zuHause> and in the vehicle it's "track_type:"

12:11:25  <alluke> thanks

12:11:31  <alluke> gotta forward that to juzza

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12:27:40  <planetmaker> alluke, how DutchTrains and OpenGFX+Trains support different railtypes: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/entry/src/railtype_table.pnml

12:28:04  <planetmaker> it probably could simply be copied. And vehicle track availability adjusted accordingly to that table

12:28:15  <planetmaker> makes it somewhat universably usable with many trackssets

12:28:31  <planetmaker> could be extended in the linked file to make it work with all

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15:54:12  <Terkhen> hello

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16:36:53  <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25555 /trunk/src (5 files in 3 dirs) (2013-07-04 16:36:47 UTC)

16:36:54  <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5632]: [Script] Texts from scripts were not validated before they were shown, causing an assertion to trigger

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17:26:16  <Alberth> o/

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17:46:17  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25556 /trunk/src/lang (10 files) (2013-07-04 17:46:01 UTC)

17:46:18  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:

17:46:19  <DorpsGek> catalan - 83 changes by smauleon

17:46:20  <DorpsGek> simplified_chinese - 44 changes by siu238X

17:46:21  <DorpsGek> traditional_chinese - 52 changes by siu238X

17:46:22  <DorpsGek> french - 2 changes by glx

17:46:23  <DorpsGek> galician - 50 changes by Michi

17:46:24  <DorpsGek> hungarian - 2 changes by Brumi

17:46:25  <DorpsGek> japanese - 936 changes by guppy

17:46:26  <DorpsGek> polish - 3 changes by p0358

17:46:27  <DorpsGek> slovak - 2 changes by Milsa

17:46:28  <DorpsGek> thai - 2 changes by nirakanz

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17:52:11  <Alberth> lots of string updates

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18:04:03  <Eddi|zuHause> "finnish nuclear power station searches PHP developer with SQL knowledge" ...

18:04:32  <Eddi|zuHause> i can't even come up with a snappy comment...

18:04:43  <Alberth> lol

18:05:27  <Alberth> let's just hope it for a PR website or so :)

18:08:02  <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: do you have pdp-11 assembler skills?

18:08:18  <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think so

18:09:34  <frosch123> so, is there a php and sql implementation for pdp-11? :)

18:10:06  <frosch123> with a bit of luck there is k&r c compiler

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18:19:19  <Alberth> given that c was designed for it, that would be likely :)

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18:29:54  <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: i had assumed it's for the one that is currently under construction

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18:32:57  <Eddi|zuHause> "Sarkozy's party UMP will not be reimbursed for the 2012 presidential election campaign, because they exceeded the budget limit of 22.5 Mio €"

18:34:54  <frosch123> you mean, if they exceed it, they get nothingß

18:34:56  <frosch123> ?

18:35:18  <Eddi|zuHause> yes, if they stayed below 22.5 Mio €, they would get 50%

18:35:46  <frosch123> that's a funny model :)

18:36:05  <frosch123> did they exceed it my a large sum, or did just someone fail with counting?

18:36:17  <Eddi|zuHause> 466k€ or something

18:36:35  <Eddi|zuHause> or 2.1%

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19:31:58  <glx> Eddi|zuHause: they just have to find 11 Mio € to repay the loan (while their budget is still missing 50 Mio €)

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20:05:13  <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25557 trunk/src/table/object_land.h (2013-07-04 20:05:07 UTC)

20:05:14  <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5524]: one could build bridges over owned land of another company

20:06:33  <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25558 trunk/src/3rdparty/squirrel/squirrel/squtils.h (2013-07-04 20:06:27 UTC)

20:06:34  <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5568]: [Squirrel] Infinite recursion loop in freeing data via a looping set of references

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20:54:20  <frosch123> night

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21:16:45  <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: Commit by rubidium :: r25559 /branches/1.3 (6 files in 5 dirs) (2013-07-04 21:16:35 UTC)

21:16:46  <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: [1.3] -Backport from trunk:

21:16:47  <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - Fix: Possible reading of uninitialised memory due to undefined execution order (r25551)

21:16:48  <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - Fix: [Windows] Race condition between two drawing threads could crash OpenTTD [FS#5571] (r25550)

21:16:49  <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - Fix: ICU returns the width of the visual run as if the trailing space was added (in case a newline was added). This caused the width to be more than the requested width, but it would still be drawn correctly [FS#5626] (r25547)

21:16:50  <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: (...)

21:20:15  <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: Commit by rubidium :: r25560 /branches/1.3 (12 files in 7 dirs) (2013-07-04 21:20:05 UTC)

21:20:16  <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: [1.3] -Backport from trunk:

21:20:17  <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - Fix: [Squirrel] Infinite recursion loop in freeing data via a looping set of references [FS#5568] (r25558)

21:20:18  <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - Fix: One could build bridges over owned land of another company [FS#5524] (r25557)

21:20:19  <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - Fix: [Script] Texts from scripts were not validated before they were shown, causing an assertion to trigger [FS#5632] (r25555)

21:20:20  <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: (...)

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22:34:03  <Supercheese> Hah, in the new FIRS economy, rather than HEQS trams having less capacity they have more

22:34:15  <Supercheese> or wait

22:34:22  <Supercheese> maybe I've gone from Imperial to metric tons

22:34:38  <Supercheese> yep that was it

22:34:43  <TomyLobo> i want metric fucktons

22:35:10  <Supercheese> tons vs tonnes

22:35:12  <Supercheese> O_o

22:35:53  <Supercheese> I wish we would just abandon the ridiculous system of units we use here and adopt metric

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22:39:48  <Eddi|zuHause> maybe you just should start?

22:40:16  <Supercheese> Fat lot of good it will do for me when every weather forcast uses Fahrenheit, every measurement reports in feet and inches, and so on

22:40:30  <Supercheese> I'm stuck with what I'm given

22:41:23  <Eddi|zuHause> just start giving out directions in 1km, switch your navi to km, get a stack of A4 paper, and yell at everyone why they're still in the 18th century

22:41:29  <TomyLobo> watch british weather then

22:42:04  <TomyLobo> also, internet weather

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22:42:37  <TomyLobo> 5 million per steal train and year, woot

22:43:00  <Eddi|zuHause> don't steal trains

22:43:09  <TomyLobo> steel, crap

22:43:27  * TomyLobo is a train pirate yarr

22:44:13  <Supercheese> South of the border, stealing trains was not uncommon

22:44:34  <Supercheese> various Mexican conflicts and wars resulted in stolen trains in many places

22:44:49  <TomyLobo> heh

22:45:10  <Supercheese> They were fond of filling them with high explosives and kamikaze-ing them as well

22:45:20  <TomyLobo> btw, feature request: ctrl-click on buy vehicle fills up the train to the max configured size

22:45:21  <Supercheese> well, without people inside anyway

22:45:45  <Supercheese> I guess that wouldn't be kamikaze, then :\

22:46:05  <Supercheese> new disaster, stolen train filled with explosives

22:46:11  <Supercheese> the graphics are already present

22:48:22  <TomyLobo> there are graphics for a train with explosives?

22:48:36  <TomyLobo> or would you just color some logs red?

22:48:50  <Supercheese> train is irrelevant, there are graphics for explosions, s'what I meant

22:48:59  <Eddi|zuHause> because explosives are transported in big red logs?

22:58:02  <TomyLobo> exactly

22:59:19  <Supercheese> "Why are you planning on filling this train with dynamite and sending it at the enemy?" "It's for a Nobel cause."

22:59:40  <Eddi|zuHause> that is a really really bad joke :p

22:59:46  <Supercheese> Thanks ;)

23:04:20  <TomyLobo> the train will have its 72 virgin trains

23:05:32  <Supercheese> Those run InterCity West Coast franchise, right?

23:07:08  <Supercheese> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InterCity_West_Coast

23:07:13  <Supercheese> "Current operator: 	Virgin Trains"

23:07:40  * TomyLobo slaps Supercheese

23:08:01  <Supercheese> :D

23:08:40  <Eddi|zuHause> that was about my "train of thought" as well, just i have not enough knowledge about these companies :p

23:08:55  * Supercheese cheated

23:08:58  <Supercheese> I wikipedia'd it

23:09:45  <Supercheese> New cargo: Puns. Transport to secondary industry to generate Groans.

23:10:30  <TomyLobo> tertiary*

23:10:31  <Eddi|zuHause> anyway: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-8gV4DJZUw

23:10:44  <TomyLobo> primary cargo would be paper

23:10:53  <TomyLobo> you know, irc paper

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23:11:12  <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: "secondary industry" doesn't mean "second in the chain"

23:11:47  <TomyLobo> ok

23:12:26  <Eddi|zuHause> well, the "simple" definition: primary industry only produces stuff, secondary industry consumes stuff and produces stuff, and tertiary industry only consumes stuff.

23:12:57  <Eddi|zuHause> of course that definition is "wrong" on so many aspects :p

23:14:04  <Supercheese> oh lord, the narration is so bad in that video

23:14:18  <Supercheese> I haven't heard such an emotionless monotone in a while

23:17:07  <TomyLobo> so coal goes from primary to tertiary? :)

23:24:09  <Eddi|zuHause> that's a little skewed, because "energy" isn't a product in TTD

23:24:33  <Supercheese> that can be hacked in ;)

23:24:54  <TomyLobo> battery cars, yay

23:24:59  <Eddi|zuHause> it also fails on ECS/FIRS mines, which accept vehicles/supplies

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