IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2012-06-07
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11:41:37 <TrueBrain> row row row my boat
11:42:45 <Eddi|zuHause> whatever rows your boat...
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13:10:48 <Achilleshiel> is there some mod that you can instand build stations incl. tracks and signals?
13:36:42 <NGC3982> frosch123: what's noai?
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13:38:49 <frosch123> it makes you not require to build stuff yourself
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13:57:38 <Achilleshiel> frosch123: so you could say build here this station, and it will build your preprogrammed station?
13:58:25 <frosch123> oh, it will even pick the position itself
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14:22:08 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: did those have the same value as Zimbabwian dollars?
14:44:32 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: more interesting is that it's not official money, but "emergency money" that the company printet itself
14:46:30 <Rubidium> well, the main value is in the paper, not in what is printed
15:01:35 <Eddi|zuHause> the height of the inflation was in Nov 1923. the central bank stopped exchanging for foreign money at 1 dollar = "4,2 Billionen Mark" [long scale, i.e. 4.2 trillion short scale. 4.200.000.000.000], inofficial (black market) value dropped even worse. after the currency reform, they dropped the word "Billion" from the bills until they could issue new bills. so this bill above would be 0,01 Mark (1 Pf), and the dollar course was set back to
15:01:37 <Eddi|zuHause> the "peace value" of 1914: 1 dollar = 4,2 Mark
15:04:42 <Rubidium> the quality of this road sucks :(
15:05:17 <Rubidium> it's even worse than those ancient concrete slab highways in Germany
15:08:20 <Eddi|zuHause> you barely find those anymore
15:08:47 <Eddi|zuHause> but the brand new repared highways have "concrete cancer" and must be replaced again
15:24:45 <MNIM> meh, plenty of bad roads just a little over the border in belgium.
15:26:24 <frosch123> yawn... why do you always find other bugs while testing something?
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15:33:15 <frosch123> at least i broke it myself :)
15:39:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r24330 /trunk/src/newgrf_engine.cpp: -Fix (r24321): Do not use the vehicle list order changes from the previous savegames, but only ever from the current one.
15:41:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r24331 /trunk/src/roadveh_cmd.cpp: -Change [FS#5204]: [NewGRF] Make bounding boxes of road vehicles change according to the vehicle length to make alignment easier.
15:59:21 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r24332 /trunk/src/newgrf_engine.h:
15:59:21 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Change/Fix [FS#2553]: [NewGRF] Change the length of 8/8 roadvehicles in vehicle
15:59:21 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: lists to 32 pixels; this is in fact the correct length as can be seen in corners
15:59:21 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: for short articulated parts following each other. It also looks fine for most
15:59:21 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: old GRFs, thus there is no need for a switch.
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16:29:09 <andythenorth> frosch123 do you have a coloured boxes test grf yet?
16:30:01 <andythenorth> so I don't need to make one? :)
16:30:20 <frosch123> i'll put it on the devzone later
16:30:24 <frosch123> when it is polished
16:30:30 <frosch123> and i can decide for a name :)
16:30:38 * andythenorth has just read vcs logs
16:30:55 <andythenorth> should have done that before asking :)
16:30:57 <frosch123> currently it is named "short vehicles" since it is basically a new version of an old "short trains" grf i made years ago
16:31:07 <frosch123> but "debug vehicles" might actually fit better
16:39:25 <frosch123> sometimes it surprises me what stuff nml still compiles
16:40:03 <andythenorth> invalid stuff? :o
16:40:53 <frosch123> no, just stuff which you cannot write like that in nfo, and which requires nml to do some magic which i did not expected it to do :)
16:41:12 <andythenorth> it's magical in a reassuring way :)
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16:59:55 <andythenorth> are you feeling expressive? :)
16:59:57 <Alberth> finally an awake fellow inhabitant
17:00:07 <andythenorth> there's life here
17:00:21 <andythenorth> mostly me, talking to myself
17:00:36 <andythenorth> if we plotted a log analysis, I suspect I'd have 80% of the conversation :(
17:00:39 <Alberth> yeah, what's happening, everybody preparing for football or so?
17:01:27 <Alberth> less TV channels that are interesting to watch :p
17:04:21 <Alberth> bleh, people discussing "he maybe I can build this patch" in the C-TH issue tracker :p
17:06:23 <telanus> it's way too cold to type
17:06:30 <frosch123> @calc 70571 / 813546
17:06:30 <DorpsGek> frosch123: 0.0867449412817
17:06:37 <frosch123> andythenorth: lousy 8.6 %
17:06:57 <telanus> they are expecting snow around here for the next 2 days
17:07:08 <andythenorth> frosch123: did you normalise out joins / leaves?
17:08:10 <frosch123> DorpsGek (2237), none of the CIA made it to the highscore
17:09:13 <telanus> frosch123: Did you count andythenorth'
17:09:42 <frosch123> telanus: you are on the wrong half of the earth apparently
17:09:52 <telanus> andythenorth_: into your equation
17:09:54 <frosch123> hmm, though here it is raining
17:10:25 <telanus> we're having single digit temperature until monday
17:10:33 <frosch123> so, andythenorth: what name should i use? ShortVehicles, DebugVehicles, ShortDebugVehicles?
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17:13:55 * andythenorth still has top of the list though
17:13:59 <andythenorth> winning silly games :P
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17:26:26 <Eddi|zuHause> what i find interesting: andy has almost twice the number of lines, but only marginally more words :p
17:26:36 <Eddi|zuHause> (compared to me)
17:26:56 <andythenorth> enter accidentally
17:27:15 <Eddi|zuHause> around every second time, apparently :p
17:27:50 <andythenorth> the sand in those Oz truck pictures looks like tropic
17:28:19 <andythenorth> how's roadtypes coming along at the moment?
17:29:39 <andythenorth> about the same as usual?
17:30:15 <Eddi|zuHause> i seem to have lost my "longest lines" record to michi_cc
17:30:41 <Eddi|zuHause> "The loudest one was Belugas, who yelled 9.5% of the time! "
17:30:50 <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds like him :)
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17:46:03 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r24333 /trunk/src/lang/ (7 files): (log message trimmed)
17:46:03 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:46:03 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: dutch - 2 changes by habell
17:46:03 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: german - 1 changes by Jogio
17:46:03 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: greek - 47 changes by kyrm
17:46:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: hungarian - 61 changes by IPG
17:46:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: lithuanian - 7 changes by RunisLabs
17:46:50 <Alberth> pretty coloured vehicles :)
17:47:27 * Nat_aS almost wants a simplistic newgrf now
17:47:38 <Nat_aS> that makes everything pastell collored cubes
17:49:56 <Alberth> weren't there a few attempts to make a something like that?
17:50:12 <frosch123> i think simutrans has some tron scheme
17:50:26 <frosch123> as usually for tron-schemes, it's quite ugly :)
17:50:42 <Alberth> one in grey/white rendered, and one tron-like thing
17:51:57 <Belugas> me? yelling? naaaa...
17:52:28 <Belugas> you should see how i express myself in a meeting ;)
17:52:51 <Alberth> Belugas: quite likely, we'd rather not :)
17:53:16 <Nat_aS> It's ugly because it's simutrans
17:53:54 <frosch123> Belugas: we cannot see it from europe, but we can still hear it :)
17:58:16 <andythenorth> frosch123: might patch that into BANDIT
17:58:39 <frosch123> andythenorth: they are all aligned correctly in all directions :)
17:59:34 <andythenorth> frosch123: dont' forget to promote them :)
17:59:40 <andythenorth> put the grf on bananas :P
18:00:02 <frosch123> the vehiclestatistics are too weird for that
18:00:06 <frosch123> it would raise bugreports
18:08:07 <NGC3982> does any electric train in the ukrs2 grf require a brake van?
18:08:48 <andythenorth> anything freight before about 1975(?) or so
18:08:56 <andythenorth> check pikka wiki for more info
18:25:23 <Belugas> little poll : what songs would be nice for a band to play while in a big family oriented bbq?
18:26:45 <andythenorth> if you're happy and you know it clap your hands?
18:26:57 <andythenorth> [is what my toddler is watching on YT]
18:27:37 <NGC3982> Belugas: some pop-blue or pop, maybe.
18:27:49 <NGC3982> like, john legend stuff
18:28:20 <frosch123> "rammstein - mein teil" might fit a bbq :p
18:28:54 <NGC3982> stewie wonder, earth wind and fire, teddy pendergrass
18:36:00 <Belugas> and damned you frosch123!
18:36:41 <Belugas> i proposed something like that and they looked at me with a killing look ;)
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18:47:37 <frosch123> Belugas: well, you would be lucky if they do not understand the text :p
18:48:27 <frosch123> (it's about canibalism)
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19:03:06 <Belugas> one more reason to avoid it, we have our share of horrific stuff lately :S
19:07:23 * Alberth ponders songs with 'fire' in the title :p
19:16:10 <Nat_aS> Rammstein: Music to Fuck or Invade Poland too.
19:18:07 <frosch123> only if you don't get the text :p
19:18:30 <Nat_aS> actualy, do you germans get tired of Nazi jokes?
19:23:05 <Nat_aS> that's british people making fun of themselves though.
19:23:25 <Nat_aS> the joke is that Englishmen are insensitive.
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21:11:12 <Nat_aS> __ln__ but why is X an axis?
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21:52:20 <Eddi|zuHause> Nat_AFK: obviously, because there is an X in axis!
21:53:01 <frosch123> the correct spelling is actually "axyz"
21:53:38 <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't watched the video, but my understanding was that earlier the variables were usually a,b,c... and some guy actually used only vowels for variables
21:55:21 <frosch123> i thought axes are usually xi, eta, ceta?
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